taks

I didn't claim it did. but you were responding to WHY I DON'T USE IT. again, you were responding to MY REASON for not using it. i don't think you understand what i mean about support contracts, btw. i have specific software tools that i use that require i use red hat or they will not support their linux product. they use red hat (usually rh enterprise), and thus cannot answer questions regarding other distributions. simple as that. i could use winders products, but then it is not as seamless to integrate the linux work required for my system. my system, btw, uses ELDK, which is derived from fedora core 4, though it is really a custom job my colleague put together for our purposes. very slimlined OS. nor did i get personal. had you read and understood what i posted you would have understood the context in which i replied. you did not, and i responded accordingly. i did not claim that at all. i said more user friendly necessarily means less powerful. ultimately, the fact that you have to go to extra lengths because of added features decreases the power of an OS. anytime a distribution automatically does something, there's a greater chance you have to undo it later. there is one specific problem with ubuntu that most users would never care about (i don't, my colleague does): in particular, if a package puts a file in some directory, it is easy to figure out which package install it came from using fedora/red hat. apparently this is not true with ubumtu. taks

um, because he signed a treaty that said he wouldn't have them after the first war. silly argument, killian. taks

i should add, fedora has better support for the powerpc, which i use regularly. the same reason linus uses fedora, apparently, though that's not why i started with fedora personally. one of the laptops i have right now has gentoo on it, which is driving me crazy. generally speaking, once you get used to one setup, that's the one you'll stick with if you don't have any problems or reasons to switch. i try not to chase kernels, either (using 2.6.23 on my embedded PPC8641 system), since stability and consistency is a bit of a must when you're developing code. the drivers i work with are kernel modules and rewriting drivers and other modules for every kernel change is a colossal waste of time and money. taks

i'm curious what your point is, cycloneman... gorgon was not disagreeing with you about anything, just adding in simple responses. perhaps you just like to hear yourself type? taks

exactly. taks

obviously you've never done any embedded programming. this is a well-known paradigm at any rate, for just about anything. user friendliness generally requires taking away some measure of the control offered to the user in order to make it easier to use. the control may still exist, but it is going to be put under the hood, so to speak, and harder to access. it doesn't appeal to embedded programmers nor does it appeal to the NSA. it certainly does not appeal to major tool developers (software tools in my business) as they almost all require you use red hat if you want your support contract honored. i've made these points clear in my posts, try to respect that in light of the fact you clearly have no experience with such things. taks PS: until the last few years, VxWorks was actually the primary embedded OS. it wasn't until real-time linux kernels began appearing that developers began to switch since VxWorks is incredibly expensive to deploy on high volume projects.

we supposedly don't do assassinations anymore. taks

what the japanese did is also abominable. but you can't equate picking up, imprisoning, and summarily executing millions that aren't even involved with the normal casualties of war. the loss of life in both instances is tragic, but the intent is completely different. when civilians die as a result of war it is not genocide. taks

they were singled out simply because of who they were. they weren't even part of the fight. taks

hehe... the inside joke, of course, is that nobody in colorado springs gives a hoot about any denver sport except football. at least, you don't have people going bonkers down here except for the broncos. there are a lot of transplants in town, mostly due to the military, which probably explains a large part of that. it's hard to get excited about watching (or attending) a game when there are 82 (hockey) or 162 (baseball) games in a year. football, OTOH, only consists of 16 so people tend to be more raucous even if it isn't their team. heck, i have a AAA team (the skysox) that plays about two miles from my house. we also have Colorado College hockey, a team that regularly makes it into the frozen four. taks

most weren't just following orders, however, though i'm sure there were some that did not want to do what they had to do. there's a difference, too, in executing POWs without cause other than the fact that they were jewish. taks

and then suddenly, without the hyperbole, it doesn't seem to work as well... taks

nice and hyperbolic, but there is no moral equivalence to what the nazis did and what is being discussed here. it's not even a remotely legitimate analogy. ^ouiouiwewe: it's only being discussed because some use that as their "reason" for questioning (or even justifying) torture in the first place, rather than making the moral arguments. taks

colorado scored goals? taks

agreed. from a political standpoint, such actions, if taken, tend to backfire potentially alienating political allies. taks

i understand, but i think his intended meaning is probably more consistent than his actual words appeared to be, i.e., it is understandable that there are always exceptions, particularly in the case of moral comparisons. no need. i just wanted to point out that there is a distinction in what he was referring to and the example. taks

realistically, it is one of those things that probably works some of the time, but only when they already have enough information to know they aren't getting a load of crap. btw, also from cato: http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=10133 dripping... the irony. taks

any OS that is more user friendly is necessarily less powerful. i don't use linux to play games or have fun. i use linux to develop signal processing systems. at one point red hat was the only NSA approved linux distribution for carrying out the types of missions i'm interested in (and fedora/red hat are essentially the same minus support). taks

http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/04/..._torture_memos/ i've always liked napolitano. very straightforward and honest, IMO. taks

not that i want to get into a foodfight, but there's a difference in what wrath is talking about and what the pilot of the enola gay did. taks

i would never use ubuntu. taks

nah, i was upstairs with my mother. she's leaving in the morning so i wanted to chat with her. it was tv or nothing. taks

trust me, according to mkreku, i'm part of the fox crowd. the irony that one of the fox commentators had such harsh words to say about the content in the memos is... well... delicious. taks

i wonder how many of those shots were in his chest... sigh. it wasn't on here, btw. at least they made it back after a 4 year drought. some things never change, however. the cards look good. maybe carpenter will heal, again, and they'll make it deep into the playoffs again. taks

they have 12-step programs for this, you know... taks