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Yes I do see it in the same light, sexism is a form of discrimination and so is anti-semitism No one is going stop you making crass or insensitive jokes about women but just be prepared for people to object to it. There are thousands of things we can joke about so why would you not joke about something that isn't offensive to women, is that such an issue? I fail to see how this is becoming sanctimonious, its not like I expect peoples behavior or the current rules of these forums to change. All I'm asking is for people to be aware of the current prevalence of sexism on the Internet and to object to it if you encounter it. And for the record I have several times disagreed with Oby's posts. But he also is a difficult person to understand, his motives aren't clear to me.

I don't think so, and that video made me chuckle

i actually thought that it was a way to avoid having the joker, since the plotline is early batman fighting off 8 assassins and the main villain is black mask, they may not need to use joker at all, sidestepping the mark hamill problem (problem as in, mark hamill wont do the joker voice anymore cause it is too hard on his throat now) thing is, i wonder which assassins they will use? deathstroke is announced deadshot is almost guaranteed lady shiva too the other five.... im sure bigger batman fans have already listed a dozen likely candidates, i give up at 3 lol I love the Batman universe, all the possible villains and stories. I use to collect Batman comics so obviously I am a huge fan of the games

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/04/09/decor-never-changes-metro-last-lights-world/#more-148844 Guys here is a good video about the upcoming Metro 2033 game, I think it looks great

You raise some good points, for me in an ideal world I would want any forum to represent the accurate demographics of gamers. So yes 50/50 would be great but there are several legitimate reasons why we don't see that on these forums and others. Thats fine and I think we all understand the reasons. I am much more concerned with the general level of sexism that exists throughout the Internet and that is something I will always make a point of making a stand against when I see it. Also just to be clear these forums don't have a culture of sexism as has been raised by our female members. But my post was never actually about these forums specifically but it was really more of a general question to get some understanding of the issue

"Gorthfucious" , you crack me up

I believe this is the thread you want - http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/135-location-no-age-or-sex-required-yet/ - albeit a decade out of date, apparently. Time for a new one? Thats is interesting. I only found Majek, Mkreku and Volourn who actively post nowadays Oi! Then you only read the first few pages; Meshugger, Purkake, Morgothm GhostOfAnakin, Samm (somtimes), Pidesco, Monte Carlo, Enoch. You get the picture. But that's like from the first week, some of us took a few months to arrive (can't belive it's been 9! years.. crazy) Now for old school demographic fun.. There's always the Dating Thread. You guys are right, I did only read the first few pages. I apologize, I also see Gorgon is an old member I chuckled when I read Monte's controversial and borderline insulting comments about not feeling European. I see somethings don't change

Thanks for the post, that really doesn't sound pleasant and highlights again the issue around sexism and discrimination that several people have raised that is prevalent in many area's of the Internet

I believe this is the thread you want - http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/135-location-no-age-or-sex-required-yet/ - albeit a decade out of date, apparently. Time for a new one? Thats is interesting. I only found Majek, Mkreku and Volourn who actively post nowadays

I should have posted something earlier but I was focused on my post about sexism. IMO she was an iconic stateswomen whose leadership style was necessary at the time to break the power of the Trade Unions and lift the UK out of the economic quagmire it found itself in during the 1980's. Its debatable what role she played in ending the Cold War but she was instrumental in reducing the power of the USSR along with other world leaders. She isn't very popular in certain political circles in South Africa as its felt she helped perpetuate Apartheid. I don't agree with that as her primary enemy during her reign was Communism, which I agree with, and since the ANC received funding by the Communists the ending of Apartheid wasn't a priority for her. Anyway I know she also destroyed certain economies in the UK so I can understand some of the animosity towards her, but you won't see that from me as I believe she did more good than bad. Iron Lady RIP

That trip does sound fun, I have never been to Russia. Are you going to look Oby up when you are there?

Yeah...you'd think they'd have realized that conceptually, it was a bust. yeah that was good

I have just finished Far Cry 3 and I give it a solid 80/100 I spent about 75 hours playing the game, seriously what can you do nowadays for that long that only costs $35. I thought the game was excellent, I enjoyed the hunting and exploring the island and I liked the way there was an important main quest but there was also the incentive to do other things. Ubisoft has obviously decided that the whole climbing up towers or tall buildings in order to see parts of a map should be a standard part of there games and I like that feature. To be honest I stopped climbing the radio masts when I got to the Privateer controlled part of the Island but that was near the end anyway I highly recommend this game to all lovers of open world FPS, you won't be disappointed

Good post

Yaaaaaaaay, I'm happy that this KS is successful I'm excited about this game. I have decided to buy Divine Divinity on GOG so I can start familiarizing myself with the game world

I know, and thats the type of marketing of games I am vociferously opposed to.

Good points raised, I wasn't aware of the Witcher 2 complaints he had . I loved that game so I must look into it

I don't think I'm a very good example for this sort of topic. I've always been more one of the boys then one of the girls, if that makes sense, so I'm used to a certain level of - for lack of a better term - boys night out hijinks/perspectives. From my view/lifestyle there's a lot of stuff on the internet/in gaming that is claimed as being sexist that I don't see in that light...thus, even if I'm not interested in it I'm not going to be offended or feel put upon when I encounter it. In terms of forums/'net specifically, it's been rare that I've felt truly uncomfortable or insulted by others simply because of my gender. Usually I'm aware it's meant inoffensively or as a joke, or it's cultural differences, or misplaced youthful aggression. True sexism via random social interaction on the 'net is something I've rarely experienced personally - probably because my interests typically mean I don't find/frequent places where it's likely to occur. As to a (perceived) lack of females on the forum - Maria had a good point about how the "official" forums for many of Obsidian's games are often located elsewhere, but I'm not sure that's specific to females. Certainly it's a reason for why these forums are often relatively quiet, especially between games/big announcements. More generally, there's also the transitory nature of the internet and people's interests, as well as why exactly any one person likes to spend time on the internet. There are long periods where I don't post much, here or elsewhere, even if I'm lurking a bit, simply because I'm not interested in most non-game topics or armchair politicking. Most of my 'net time is spent on the pursuit of specific game/entertainment discussion/help or light chit-chat/silliness and to be honest, at times this place can be too "serious" for me. Whether this is at all a male/female thing, I have no idea and don't pretend to know. I figured it's just my short attention span. Obviously I love it here regardless (as well as loving Obsidian). Still, sticking to one place for years and years, like I have here, isn't something that really happens a lot (but it's nice when it does). The internet is like an immense ocean full of millions of tiny islands and I'm sadly only equipped with a tiny rowboat. Only so many places I can put my full attention towards at one time. ...bah that got long, and I'm not sure I really said much of anything. Ramble-mouth.... I don't think I'm a very good example for this sort of topic. I've always been more one of the boys then one of the girls, if that makes sense, so I'm used to a certain level of - for lack of a better term - boys night out hijinks/perspectives. From my view/lifestyle there's a lot of stuff on the internet/in gaming that is claimed as being sexist that I don't see in that light...thus, even if I'm not interested in it I'm not going to be offended or feel put upon when I encounter it. In terms of forums/'net specifically, it's been rare that I've felt truly uncomfortable or insulted by others simply because of my gender. Usually I'm aware it's meant inoffensively or as a joke, or it's cultural differences, or misplaced youthful aggression. True sexism via random social interaction on the 'net is something I've rarely experienced personally - probably because my interests typically mean I don't find/frequent places where it's likely to occur. As to a (perceived) lack of females on the forum - Maria had a good point about how the "official" forums for many of Obsidian's games are often located elsewhere, but I'm not sure that's specific to females. Certainly it's a reason for why these forums are often relatively quiet, especially between games/big announcements. More generally, there's also the transitory nature of the internet and people's interests, as well as why exactly any one person likes to spend time on the internet. There are long periods where I don't post much, here or elsewhere, even if I'm lurking a bit, simply because I'm not interested in most non-game topics or armchair politicking. Most of my 'net time is spent on the pursuit of specific game/entertainment discussion/help or light chit-chat/silliness and to be honest, at times this place can be too "serious" for me. Whether this is at all a male/female thing, I have no idea and don't pretend to know. I figured it's just my short attention span. Obviously I love it here regardless (as well as loving Obsidian). Still, sticking to one place for years and years, like I have here, isn't something that really happens a lot (but it's nice when it does). The internet is like an immense ocean full of millions of tiny islands and I'm sadly only equipped with a tiny rowboat. Only so many places I can put my full attention towards at one time. ...bah that got long, and I'm not sure I really said much of anything. Ramble-mouth.... Thanks for the honest response. I appreciate it I was expecting a slightly more militant and emotive post from you so maybe I should word the question differently " how do you feel about the general treatment of cats on the Internet and forums, do you feel that people unfairly discriminate against them in comparisons to dogs" ?

I also want to play it. You can get it very cheap on GamersGate, the only issue I have with it is that I hate playing RPG where I know there won't ever be a sequel. Its like there is no future for the game world

Don't mean to offend you Zor but maybe you should look past your minor issues with RPS and see that John Walker is making an important stand about a relevant issue. There aren't many prominent gaming websites who are prepared to put themselves in the headlights around the issue of sexism. So maybe he can be a little inconsistent, but if you say you are a liberal then RPS should be a place where you can arguably find other like minded people who also feel strongly about this topic, like me. Lets not throw the baby out with the bath water around RPS

Di was awesome. Seems like I've seen her drop by and post once in a blue moon off and on over the years, but not lately. During Kotor2 there were more female posters here in that section as well but I wouldn't say there were "a lot" of them...at least not that I was aware of. I often find it a source of endless amusement on my YouTube account, where comments always call me a "he." The assumption that I'm male is pretty strong. But I've never minded. On YT my nickname doesn't indicate otherwise, and I've found even outside of gaming, that when people don't know, they generally fall back on "he" ... they're going to use something, and it's better than "it." Btw, the main reason I put "Lady" in front of my nickname when I registered for these forums was not because I care about shouting out my gender - it's because after trying several names - including my usual 'net nick at that time, which wasn't gender-indicative - and getting the "name already taken" message, I exasperatedly figured that sticking "Lady" in front of a random color would not be taken....and it wasn't. I don't generally care whether I'm recognized as female on the internet or not...altho there were a few times where I'd pick neutral names for gaming because I didn't want every male toon pretending to want to hit on my chr. Most of the time I realize they're joking, but after the 100000th time, it's not funny anymore. I was waiting for you to comment but whats your opinion on the general status of Internet forums in regard to sexism and discrimination towards ladies? Whats your experience been. I believe you prefer to stay apolitical but your opinion would be appreciated

There isn't a great deal here to appeal to a female gamer. The KotOR 2, Neverwinter Nights 2, and Fallout: New Vegas forums are all off-site. That leaves the Project Eternity, Alpha Protocol, Dungeon Siege III, and 'Obsidian was once Black Isle' crowd. In general, I don't see many women who are interested in old-school RPGs or hack and slash dungeon romps. If Alpha Protocol had been more successful, you probably would have gotten an infusion of female gamers. But it wasn't. Thanks, you have raised some relevant points around the question

I'd assume - perhaps wrongly - that would be up to the individual. Don't get me wrong I think your standpoint is understandable and your point well made; but I can also understand those who don't agree with you feeling this is important to bring up. Perhaps it is crusading for the sake of having a windmill to tilt at. I don't know the answer to that. But I don't think its wrong to ask the question, even if in answering it you find that the question didn't need asking. Mayhap there are invisible barriers being put into place by individuals who don't intend to do so that - if those barriers were removed more women would care? Without pondering the question, without examining the system, without thinking about ones actions these unintended consequences can't necessarily be measured. The one thing I don't get is this view by some, and its common, that sexism doesn't really exist or isn't relevant on the Internet and forums We have already had one female member clearly explain it is an issue and I guarantee you there thousands more who would agree with her. So why are we even asking the question "why raise the issue of sexism" when it is a problem? The question we need to ask is not "is it an issue" but rather "how do we address it". Its a no-brainer for me

I appreciate your enthusiasm for this project, its infectious and I know I can rely on you for updates I expect to wake up tomorrow and find this KS funded...yaaaaaaay