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Well as usual you response doesn't help the situation in the slightest

I've been following that and it does look good. But I'll try Walking Dead first

I'm not sure what you mean here, it was hardly the only reference to fandom peculiarities in the DLC. Considering the air time it has gotten here and elsewhere, it would have been a surprise had it not been referred there. This is an old discussion but still relevant, to be honest I'm not sure what the fuss is? So 12 fans or so took a real interest in a topic that most of wouldn't even think about. So what? Let people discuss what they want about a game, they aren't harming anyone are they The main reason I have an issue with this discussion is that its used in numerous debates to highlight how depraved and bizarre BSN has become. When in fact it represents one discussion compared to hundreds that occur on a daily basis at BSN. I just think people are making a big deal about a small minority of hard core fans as if everyone at BSN is like that

Thanks for the information

Hi Walsie Where have you been, you've been quiet the last day or 2?

I just finished playing Icewind Dale for the first time. Its an excellent game. As mentioned by most its your classic IE dungeon romping RPG. It deserves a solid 75/100 What I liked about it is The usage of spells and tactics in combat The length of the game, I must have spent 100 hours playing it The usage of the AD&D ruleset The exploration of the various dungeons and the different main enemies you had to fight What I didn't like about it was no real interaction with your party No Romance options But apart from that I highly recommend this game. Now I am going to play the Walking Dead, I have heard its an evocative game and I'm excited

Its funny but I see your perspective as anachronistic and outdated, not the campaign for equality. The reality is more and more people are aware of bigotry in society and more and more people won't keep quiet when they encounter it. You need to realize that you are on the losing side of this debate in Western countries Monte as most people do believe in the important of equal representation for all in society and that includes gaming and entertainment

I also disagree with the notion that default narrative settings are apolitical. That's is an excellent and informative read. Thanks Alan I hope people spend time reading the whole article because it raises and dismisses many of the reasons I hear from people when we talk about the importance of inclusivity of certain groups in games. For example you hear comments " I'm not opposed to women or gay characters in a game but its just that this is not historically accurate in the context of Medieval war, so why ask for something that doesn't reflect the reality" and other absurd views around the importance of equality. I'll be forwarding this link to several people I know who will find it very relevant and interesting

Please don xDD Yeah right. I lol'd. Games aren't remotely that serious. Wtf? Please try to understand the context of what I'm saying. You are being naïve or myopic if you think some games don't have a real impact on some of us. They may just be games but that doesn't detract from the message or emotional connection a person may feel. For example I have read several reviews around the Walking Dead and how people were generally moved by the ending. A game can be no different to a good book or movie and yes they can have an impact around your final personal feeling at the end of the game. Its not weird or difficult to understand Of course I'm not saying this applies to all games but lets not dismiss the impact a game can have

You are assuming he is even telling the truth. Seems like an alcoholic at least, to me. Yes I agree, I am not saying he doesn't have issues around substance abuse. But its rare to see someone in his position who is telling the truth about why he did something. You could argue this is just a political strategy and he is doesn't have another choice but most people would still use a defence like " its all this stress...I need help "

Angry birds... so deep, man. xDD Yeah right. First of all, those issues are important to YOU, not to all. I'm a fulfilled individual, I'm not fifteen, I don't have complexes of inferiority and so I don't give a flying f... about what some people might think about me because of the social group I belong to. And censoring things left and right won't change what they think about me either. And I don't want some people to try to get into my head and change what I think about some other social groups by censoring games/films/books. It won't work. I'll think what I'll think, and it will be based on my interactions with them. Supposing otherwise would be taking me for an idiot and THAT would be offensive. And second, a game isn't an inspirational video, it's an entertainment product. Don't like? Don't buy. If you start thinking that it owes you something, like it must inspire you or it must discuss important social issues (read this last part in a soft caring voice), then let's ban all films, games and books that don't exactly inspire OR have a gay iranian political refugee, a black guy, a jew, a trans-gender and a strong confident woman. After we're burned books, let's forbid history class cause history was mostly written by a white male and it's therefore discriminatory and offensive, then we'll just forbid school and knowledge altogether and then we'll live really well from that point on. Then we'll have mouth police patrolling the streets and checking if you're talking about important social issues. If you're not - PRISON TIME. With people like you, there are always all those "important social issue" except the one called "freedom of speech". That one is reserved for you only. I believe in Freedom of Speech but not if it infringes on the dignity of a person. In South Africa we have a constitution that addresses this exactly and I firmly believe in that. Words do matter and you can't hide behind free speech and believe that your words have no consequence I want to ask you something., You believe in the context of gaming that developers should be able to make any game they want with no sense of social responsibility. And people should just not play the game if they don't like the content. So what about a game where you play as a Paedophile and you have to abuse children to progress in the game. Would you still have the same view of this game. Please don't over complicate the response, I simply want to know if you feel this would be acceptable based on your view of the right of developers to make games as they see fit?

So I was watching the latest footage around Rob Ford the Mayor of Toronto that was filmed smoking crack cocaine. He finally said something I respect. He was being questioned by members of city hall and they were asking him about his drug usage and said to him "we are trying to help you " He basically responded by saying " I don't need help as I'm not an addict, I did drugs as it was a stupid mistake but I'm not going to blame the fact I did drugs on some external reason like I'm depressed or suffering from stress" I admire this kind of honesty, he is not saying he did drugs because of the Devil or because of a reason that wasn't his fault. He is saying he was drunk at the time and wanted to get wasted. Its rare to see this as most people in the public light will blame there drug taking on something else.

I made myself a killer pasta last night. I fried off used onions, garlic, mushrooms and Coppa ham as a base to a sauce, I then added a good bottled spicy pasta sauce and added the Pasta once cooked. It was simple to prepare and tasted delicious

Is it the fact that this generation can't get it or is it the fact that this generation believes that the days of companies benefitting from socially unacceptable themes, like sexism and racism, won't be supported by people anymore? Politically unacceptable you mean. From your political point of view. I don't understand people who want to drag politics into every aspect of their life and even impose it on others, proclaiming that a certain thing is suddenly "socially" unacceptable. Just because it's a humor you don't understand, doesn't make you the king of all people to rule out what is acceptable or not. All sexist/racist/cripple/dark humor is acceptable by me, it's not your place to deprive me of fun by labeling it as "socially unacceptable". Murder is socially unacceptable. Humor is ok. If you don't understand or like it - just don't play it. The more people say this or that is socially unacceptable, the more "rules" we're going to have against this or that. I hate it. So basically you argument is that its s a game and if I don't like the content then I shouldn't play it and I should stop trying to enforce my view on others? What I don't get is end of the day this type of game is actually an insult to people like you. You just don't realize it. The developers are appealing to the whole "shock" factor instead of creating something of substance. We are living in an age of profound creativity and genius. We have games that bring us to tears and games where people create websites where they spend months designing mods just to enhance the gaming experience. So in this all greatness and this ability to truly inspire people what do some developers decide to do? They create a game with a character that makes a mockery of very important social issues. Its lazy and pathetic and insulting to what fans should expect. You should hold Daedalic studios to a higher standard than that Unless of course you really a bigot, in which case you would get some vicarious joy from playing this game. But I doubt you are

RPS does it because they care about social justice and won't be silenced! And other crusading nonsense. Not doing it for hits really, they feel by doing so they're making a difference and such. Sometimes though, people bring up misogyny just to bring it up, it being the cause of the year. I thought that you have finally seen my point around RPS but then I realized you were being sarcastic Because that's exactly what RPS does do, they care about certain social justice issues and they have decided to make a stand. I respect them immensely for making that difficult decision because Malc let me assure you of something, its much easier to not say anything around cases of bigotry or to challenge the systemic issues around sexism we see in certain parts of the gaming industry Personally I would be very annoyed if RPS was making a social stand just for ratings and hits. In fact I reject this notion completely. Unless someone can provide links to support this view?

Its more the principle, the game seems to have a total disregard for social issues that create unhappiness for many people who are victims of discrimination and bigotry. I have no reason to believe that RPS would exaggerate how bad the game is as I know they take these things seriously. Saying that the only way I could truly judge the game would be to play it myself but I really don't know if I can put myself through that Yes on occasion, its okay. The humour isn't really my thing. First thing is, that lot of current jurnalist are bringing up the "sexist" card only to get more hits on their site, which brings them more revenue. Be honest, how many of you, who do not frequently visit the RPS, clicked on the link and read the article, just because you wanted to know how sexist is the game? And I asked about Two and Half men, because many "white kinghts" are depicting the series as an prime example of how sexist is our entertainment... What makes me laugh everytime I see it, is that it is one of the favorite shows of my sister... She does not feel offended, because she is intelligent enough to see the difference between parody of relationships in modern society, and sexism. And she loves How I Met Your Mother, too.... And not despite Barney, but mainly because of him, because he and his "girlfirends" are a nice example of parody of modern relationship in our society as well... So let the strong women, which know how to protect themselves from harm, decide what they find funny and what not by themselves... Only damsels in distress need white knights to protect them... Thank you... You make some good and reasonable points but we mustn't kid ourselves. Sexism is alive and real and we need to reject it when we are confronted by it in society, especially in a game where there are so many other things a developer could focus on

Surly in a place like Austria there must be loads of Mountain Climbing groups and societies, you could find one and join them can't you?

The first game was great. The drag queens seemed like a reference to certain movies. The second one turned into one looong dumb gay joke. Every discusssion with every character made jokes about the main character being in a gay relationship with the wierd scientist guy. Probably "bashing" is a strong word. But when the joke is repeated ad nauseum, it stops being an unfunny punch-line. Thanks for the input, another game to add to my list of " not to ever play"

Generally I will also load a previous game if one of my main characters dies, especially if its someone I'm Romancing...

Is it the fact that this generation can't get it or is it the fact that this generation believes that the days of companies benefitting from socially unacceptable themes, like sexism and racism, won't be supported by people anymore?

Its more the principle, the game seems to have a total disregard for social issues that create unhappiness for many people who are victims of discrimination and bigotry. I have no reason to believe that RPS would exaggerate how bad the game is as I know they take these things seriously. Saying that the only way I could truly judge the game would be to play it myself but I really don't know if I can put myself through that Yes on occasion, its okay. The humour isn't really my thing.

Game looks sad, I won't support any game that has such an abject and complete disregard for social issues and discrimination I am surprised you would wont to play this game Malc?

Don't you think some older games are best kept in the nostalgic archives and never revisited in case the gaming experience isn't what you remember it to be?

A little guilty? I'm surprised that someone of your maturity and intelligence can actually make a post that you are enjoying SR4. I would take a very deep and introspective look at the psychological reasons that you would enjoy this type of game, after that I would consider some kind of therapy. You can be saved but only if you act quickly. Your post clearly demonstrates that you are ...you are.,..you are....human ?

Do I acknowledge your command to ignore you, thereby doing the OPPOSITE of ignoring you? Or do I pay attention to you, thereby obviously not ignoring you? AHHHH!!! *rips out hair* funny