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Apparently its been banned in Australia because its too graphic and violent and the Australian authorities felt it would have a negative impact on the sensitive minds of its citizens

Its excellent, nice one

Guys I don't know if I should pledge towards this game but I'm starting to feel guilty that I haven't..what should I do? Only pledge towards it if you'd like it to be made. Otherwise don't. But I'm not good at determining if something is a good KS project, I'm easily fooled by marketing and spin so its hard for me to see real substance. Of course this doesn't apply to studios like Obsidian and inXile because I obviously know them and know they can deliver

In the short term I can't imagine the relationship between Netanyahu and the Obama admin could get much worse. There has always been more than a little anti-Israel bias in Obamas dealings in the middle east. From what I was reading in The Atlantic & the Washington Post many Israeli voters don't believe the Obama admin is committed to their security. I can't really blame them. I hear you but I think this is an unfair characterization of the efforts that the Obama administration has put into Israel and Palestinians. Firstly the USA has always been committed to the security of Israel, meaning if Israel was attacked they would defend it ( not that this likely) The point of contention is that the USA has never changed its view on what it expected from Israel, the two state solution was always what was deemed the best outcome for peace in the region So its bizarre that some Israelis would think Obama isn't committed to security..because the two state solution is in fact the best way ensure security in the long term Israel is attacked almost every day in some way. just because it isn't by uniformed soldiers of a foreign nation does not make it less real. And if a free Palestinian state were to magically appear this very minute nothing will change. Even if the people of the region we willing to live side by side in peace (certainly not something in evidence now) the governments of Iran, Egypt, and even Saudi Arabia (if the truth be told) are heavily invested in arming and antagonizing a Palestinian insurgency. That whole region is a mess. Okay so let me ask you something different, what in your view could the Obama administration do additionally to alleviate the concerns from some Israelis that they don't care about there security? So lets say you were the president of the USA and the situation is exactly what is it at the moment...would you bomb Iran? Because thats what some Israelis want? I am not trying to catch you out but I hear this criticism about Obama and I'm interested what else people realistically expect the USA to do?

I find this whole flip-flopping by Netanyahu extremely exasperating. But the damage has been done and he has left a very bitter taste in the mouths of the Obama regime I am of the opinion you will see a different approach to how the USA tries to broker peace going forward

Those Fighting Fantasy books were really entertaining, I don't how many you completed. Remember Deathtrap Dungeon and Creature of Havoc Did you ever play the Lone Wolf series of books? Also a very exciting fantasy series Thanks for asking. I just had a trip down my memory lane lol. I started reading FF when i was 11 or 12 (That's 30 years ago!) I read and completed about 15, that's how many that got translated to danish- I did complete Creature of Havoc (this was the absolute hardest) and Deathtrap Dungeon (you mentioned my two fave's)... I also do remember Lone Wolf, but I only read one or two, and I couldn't really get into the lore and stuff... Then when i was 14-15, we started the Fighting Fantasy "tabletop", The Riddling Reaver" or something like that. It was cool, but then shortly after I got the red D&D box. Ohh the memories .... You right about Creature of Havoc, it was very difficult. You had to learn how to break the "code " of how people spoke because in the beginning you were a monster but obviously didn't know it and couldn't understand what people meant. That book was genius

I was more thinking about what if the woman wants the abortion but the man doesn't. So putting a sense of aside the choice of having sex in the first place as a mutual choice, baring being able to remove the fetus and implant it (either into the man or an artificial external womb), wouldn't the 9 month physical commitment necessitate that the woman's position holds more weight than the man's at this time? (Admittedly, IMO, a lot of the problems with abortion aren't really related to abortion as much as no one likes the currently available alternatives). Absolutely the woman's position should carry more weight but as it currently stand the man has zero input on the matter. But as you say, sans an artificial womb, there isn't much that can be done about it. You have made some good points and I am now leaning towards the man having some say....but its the womens physical relationship with the fetus that still gives her more say. But this is something we all seem to agree on ?

Indeed. Any competent U.S. president that has U.S. interests in mind first and foremost would tell Israel that they'd shoot down their planes if they flew over U.S. controlled airspace on their way to start a war. In particular one that has an almost certain potential to drag the U.S. into it, as well as to become WW3. That said. It's likely nothing more than political theater BS that it was said. To rile up the pro-Israeli and anti-Obama zombies who are completely unaware of the U.S.S. Liberty and other things that go to show that Israel is anything but a good ally to the U.S.. Yeah you guys are right, sorry Volo but shooting down the jets in these circumstances is justified

But a man can never truly understand what a pregnancy is, imagine a life growing inside you and you have to make this heartbreaking decision to now abort that part of you...its not a very nice situation to be in. That's why I agree with Hurlshot, its the women's choice( which may be influenced by the father ) and support must be given

Guys I don't know if I should pledge towards this game but I'm starting to feel guilty that I haven't..what should I do?

Volo what are you talking about...who are you referring to when you say " lackies "

Wouldn't, logically, this argument be applied to all of video gaming? Its frivolous so why debate it? And sports? And TV? And Movies? QFT...well said Amentep

Well I have never played the game and know nothing about the character so my criticism was valid IMO. I am not trolling but do have an issue with it And it cant be so inexplicable that this animation raises criticism as its on that link HUFF POST Tech link..unless you think that lady journalist is also trolling?

I've seen some women support it and some women not support it. I'm not sure "support" really matters since everyone views things subjectively anyhow. Whats your view on that animation in this link Amentep, I consider you a reasonable and rationale person so your opinion is important https://archive.today/ojKb6

Nah, you're cool man. I'd vote for you — provided you never ran for office. That's more than I can say for any candidate I can think of. Does that make any sense? Yeah and its very funny

I would like Alumin to comment on that animation and see what he thinks, he is very good at articulating SJ issues in a way that makes sense. I admit I may be wrong about my criticism but I doubt it

My real name is.....Bruce ...in case anyone didn't guess

Nope I doubt anyone will question your view to be pro-life, this is your personal view and you allowed to believe what you want as it is a very controversial issue We can agree to disagree and that's fine

I just find it crass and overdone, here is this women with massive breast who basically looks like an Anime porn star doing this twirl and then landing on her back and spreading her legs while some white energy flows into her vagina And I have nothing against hot pornstars with large breasts but come one....this is suppose to be a video that encourages diversity and wants both male and female fans Does this game have a large female support base ?

Not really. he may be referring to how some in society sees it..I still am not sure of his actual opinion

I said that I think banning abortion is socialistic which is not the same as saying it's socialist specifically, but rather that it seems like the kind of thing socialists would be inclined to do. Uhm. Why? I mean... Since socialism is traditionally tied to atheism, why would they ban abortion? Abortion is usually banned on religious grounds. No, it's not usually banned on religious grounds. It's historically usually banned on the grounds that many people, religious and not, consider it murder. Banning murder is not socialistic. If one does not see it as murder then I can see how one would consider it that though. As for communists. There is no standard communist position on the matter. ie: At various times the Soviet Union allowed and banned abortion. However communist Russia was the first nation in the world to allow it Carte blanche. Later they changed their minds (many have theorized they did this when the population of ethnic Russians wasn't as growing as much Stalin would have liked). So, in the case of the U.S.S.R., one might say that the stance on abortion was a matter of state run reproductive policy, which would indeed make the issue of abortion socialistic in that nation. In the world at large there are multiple schools of thought in regards to the issue. Some are technocratic, some are socialistic, for some it's just a matter of 'women's rights', for some it's just a matter of seeing it at murder, and so on. In the U.S. all of these schools exist, but the 'woman's right's movement' and the 'right to life' (those who consider it murder) are the two major factions that generally get the airplay on the news, and for the most part has what's been driving any legislation in regards to the matter. The less dominant schools of thought ally or attempt to manipulate these major schools (as they do with pretty much any issue). So while there is no obviously visible direct influence by technocrats or socialists one could argue they have influenced the debate. Indeed many have argued that the modern women's rights movement itself is socialistic or technocratic in nature, in addition many have argued that the issue of abortion itself is technocraticly driven from a eugenics perspective. Interesting post Vals Whats your view on abortion? I am fine with it under the right circumstances, I think it is a very traumatic experience for any women and most of the time its not done without careful consideration

well to be honest, the first NWN is kinda like MMO wannabe, instead of focusing on campaign and compelling plot and characters, it tries to focus on the online side, which i don't really dig either. glad obsidian fixed it with NWN2, and ultimately, Mask of The Betrayer, which is like the second best videogame story to plancescape. also i feel like a kid here you guys have like so much history with it, like a long-life marriage XD Yeah you would think that with all these years of playing RPG we would have consensus amongst ourselves on what components are important to a RPG or what games are considered the best RPG....but thats not the case and we debate often on various topics

Those Fighting Fantasy books were really entertaining, I don't how many you completed. Remember Deathtrap Dungeon and Creature of Havoc Did you ever play the Lone Wolf series of books? Also a very exciting fantasy series

Yeah, I think it's more that I never really sat down and realized just how much these people are offered. And for clarity, I wasn't saying I would be surprised to hear games journalists getting flights and hotels paid, I merely named the TF2 guys because that was completely Blizzard's initiative with TF2 celebrities; they're not reviewers or anything, they're celebrities for a market they wish to overtake. I'd just not realized how easy it would be for these gaming companies to offer these people thousands of dollars for positive coverage. If we assume video games journalism is a minimum wage kind of job (pretty sure it is, or close to it), then ONE accepted bribe can be a huge addition to your annual income. Just puts things into perspective as to how this happened and why some of them are willing to fight tooth and nail. I'd like to point out that YouTube and Twitch celebrities are not analogous to gaming journalists in any way, shape or form. Currently, even midlevel YouTube channels (say, the Worth-a-Buy review channel) are worth more in terms of exposure and sales than positive reviews are across the board. You're unlikely to see journalists get bribes that high since they are, simply put, not worth as much money. EDIT: Look at her and laugh. There you have an imbecille with an opinion of a fool talking about things she cannot comprehend. I read this link and I'm interested in what isn't understood by the journalist Nintendo's idea of confident and diverse female characters are pink bizarre looking " mutants " But what concerns me even more is that clip from Bayonetta, I haven't played the game but please tell me she doesn't open her legs like that when she is generating some kind of ability...please tell that video clip is not accurate So what is the basic issue with that article...I am missing the problem? Bruce, you might not realize this, but the clip is real.....SHE IS NOT. Okay but I would still like clarification on Bayonette before I make my point, during the game that animation you see is that real? Is that how the female character behaves? And if so what is she doing? Is it some kind of absorbing of abilities or does that happen when she defeats an enemy That animation is cut short and taken severely out of context. When completed, it's a visual metaphor for giving birth and the inherent power of being able to create life. I've mentioned before that Bayonetta is, at its very core, a story of female empowerment and this constant marring of it by American puritans is ridiculous. As for the "pink blobs", those are not Nintendo's strong, female characters at all. They're at best throwaway skins. Nintendo has plenty of strong female characters and is decades ahead of western game developers. The freaking Mario franchise has a gender dysphoric character for crying out loud, making them a hundred times more progressive by default than a significant portion of the feminist community (who are notorious for being homo and transphobic regarding gay men and transgendered women). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminist_views_on_transgenderism_and_transsexualism#Feminist_exclusion_of_transgender_and_transsexual_people You know, when I first joined this board I once expressed that I didn't think women breastfeeding in public was appropriate. I was wrong, obviously, and members here (specifically metadigital, wherever he may be) ripped me a new one, and rightly so. Yet things like your consternation about this scene (because even if it wasn't a metaphor for birth, it still wouldn't be offensive) make me think that kind of unhealthy view of the female body, as something that must be covered up to avoid any form of titillation, that muslim Burka view of the female form, is making a huge comeback and oddly enough it's coming from the movement whose biggest victories include not being forced to cover up. Okay thanks for explaining, I would have been very surprised if that animation was as obviously offensive as it appeared. I'm glad there is context involved

I started reading the Fighting Fantasy books ( Steve Jackson and Ian Livingstone ) in the 1980's and then moved onto D&D and then AD&D But I also started playing games like Kings Quest and Heroes Quest and from there evolved onto other fantasy PC titles like Ultima, Gothic, Elder Scrolls and the of course the various AD&D RPG like BG But for me fantasy and RPG has always been in my blood since I first learnt to read