BruceVC

Maybe we are approaching this debate in the wrong way. Do you feel a sense of guilt for what Russia has been doing? Im not sure why you would because you are not Putin and you dont work in his cyber -espionage units

Would you kindly point to where this irrefutable evidence actually is. His feelings. Guys it must be the epitome of forum indolence and lethargy to seriously expect someone else to prove your doubts meaningless? You guys need to do your own proof-checking...you need to take responsibility and commit some time to improving your future

Its okay my son, even if it is true you will only have to absorb 3600 immigrants based on your popultion Thats nothing, some countries have had to take in hundreds of thousands of immigrants. You will be okay, I believe in you

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/obama-orders-review-of-russian-hacking-during-presidential-campaign/2016/12/09/31d6b300-be2a-11e6-94ac-3d324840106c_story.html?utm_term=.2471de6b80b6 More irrefutable evidence about the Russian hacking impact in the US around influencing the election. This time from the CIA, its really time some people stopped denying this

Wait, what was your moral objection? I guess I missed it. My moral objection was the tape where Trump talked about groping women seemingly confirming the accusations that immediately came out of his assaulting women. This has nothing to do with sexism or SJ btw Bruce, no one has the right to assault another person. Edit: No question Iran was involved in attacks on US forces in Iraq: http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2013/09/30/the-shadow-commander Okay lets forget your moment of SJ weakness....we all agree never to bring it up again Your other point is much more relevant, of course Iran was directly involved in attacking and killing US troops for years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Sadr_City This is a known fact, I am surprised you were actually even entertaining Zora "assessment " of the involvement of Iran, he will try reduce and undermine the US subtlety in most of what he says and " Russia will achieve global hegemony as Putin is such a great leader " If he had been left to continue he would have eventually been telling you " ISIS is a benign and misunderstood group unfairly targeted by Western aggression "

Some people here are active members over there Its considered more " old school and hardcore RPG community " and a place where people can speak there minds without too much censorship I dont go there for exactly the reason there is no real enforced moderation so some people are just rude and obnoxious I looked up RPG codex on urban dictionary and this is what it says: "The RPG Codex is a forum for butthurt edgy teens who are "too cool for mainstream RPG's". The result is that they spend all their time playing old RPG's (but not that old) whilst slandering new ones (which they still play anyway). They stalk developers and modders such as Tessera and Wesp5 (who are all apparently German for some reason according to them) and have a weird obsession with many Bioware developers who they delve into the personal and private information of. The stalking of Tessera and Wesp5 has continued for 7 years by several insane individuals who use the Codex. 90% of the posters on the forum could have their own entries on Encyclopedia Dramatica] due to how insane they sound. The Codex also hates the RPG Watch which is actually the real place for sophisticated RPG discussion and not the Codex where you're more likely to find a racist or homophobic thread. Once upon a time, the RPG Codex was considered a serious place back when developers from Bethesda and Bioware posted on them but after being threatened with rape (yeah, seriously) by the basement dwellers there, the developers decided they had enough abuse from the neckbeards and blocked off all communications with the 'dex. The result is that the Codex has been butt mad ever since towards Bethesda and Bioware. In truth, the Codex is the place you'd want to go if you want to gossip about developers and their private lives because you're a weirdo. Good luck having a civil "sophisticated" debate about an RPG though since most of these idiots try to act like /b/tards but actually come off sounding more retarded. The RPG Codex is now the laughing stock of the RPG community and no one takes them seriously anymore." That sounds about right....maybe Im being nasty

Some people here are active members over there Its considered more " old school and hardcore RPG community " and a place where people can speak there minds without too much censorship I dont go there for exactly the reason there is no real enforced moderation so some people are just rude and obnoxious

Welcome to the forums, I meant to say this earlier Actually you right and it appears most people have forgotten what big event did happen Many of us were fixated and consumed by the US election on this forum and in RL There were constant debates, conspiracy theories and incomprehensible comments from Trump, I was on a forum and media high for 6-8 months .... So now I imagine we all just chilling for a bit as the election was very emotional for most of us on different levels

Nothing new about it, you just didn't notice it until now, because your ox got gored. Trump is making truth cool again, among other things. http://thefederalist.com/2016/11/11/donald-trump-just-made-10-things-cool/ Edit: Also watch true masters of false narrative at work: http://thefederalist.com/2016/05/09/ben-rhodes-reveals-how-obama-duped-america-into-the-dangerous-iran-deal/ Sorry WOD snookims but you were equally fooled by Trump, you dropped your support for him because of sustained daily criticism, though misplaced, and then finally the sexism incident made you say " okay this is too much even for me " We supported your unexpected SJ sympathies but .....we were wrong in this case, its rare but it happens even to us You should have stuck by Trump, imagine the moral high gound you would have had on this forum? This would have been one of those almost inexplicable times where if you wanted you could REALLY have gloated because sometimes I think the guys do tease you a little and keep taking what you say literally

You misunderstand me young grasshopper, I dont think I was wrong.....the ideological objective of a world where we dont practice bigotry and respect human rights can never be wrong? "Post Truth " is more for you guys to understand how you have been manipulated ....consider this a form of catharsis and introspection ...its constructive

As usual your insights are 100 % accurate What you describing is " post-truth " , its real and influenced many people in the USA to vote based on emotion and not rational thought. The good news is this disturbing trend should pass as civil society addresses this unexpected dynamic....remember its important people like us who believe in the objective facts continue to do this and not think " post truth " is the new reality of the world https://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/nov/15/post-truth-named-word-of-the-year-by-oxford-dictionaries https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/posttruth

Guys come on.....lets be realistic about the validity of this wall We dont want to stop all those hot Mexican women coming to the USA

Can I ask you a question, do you not believe Putin has numerous reasons to interfere in the elections of various Western countries? His objective is a failure but that doesnt mean they wont interfere

This is the unfortunate outcome sometimes when people feel they cannot be honest about there sexual orientation

Heh. "Islamization starts with a kebab and..." I just noticed how hungry I am, and kebab seems like a wonderful idea. *dials* This may seem extreme but its the unfortunate inevitable outcome from the failure of some members of the Muslim community to integrate or appreciate or respect Western values This is not about the West being " islamophobic " even though some of our East European friends may seem to have historical bias towards Muslims this is about a simple dynamic " if you immigrate to Western countries you accept there values " The way we have been trying to integrate all migrants has been well meaning but flawed and if we dont address this we risk the rise of right wing populist parties coming to power under spurious pretenses and this will weaken the overall influence of the West and its successful and sustainable ideology

All the time, and our school children pledge allegiance to Islam every morning while one hand is over their heart and the other is over a döner kebab. LK I am glad you have decided to defend Germany, its long overdue IMO but better late than never Germany is a very important foundation of the EU and has achieved much since the dark days of WW2, we should be inspired by much of what Germany has done and how it was able to recreate its identity. But I find a degree of irrational and unreasonable criticism towards Germany from some members For example during the debates around austerity and the PIGS countries I dont remember you supporting Germany ?

I assumed you would say that, its what we do when we support our country

Yes we must support Trump because he is the US president, this was in no doubt for me But its unfair to compare Hilary to Trump because she is not president....if she had won wouldn't you be supporting her in these types of foreign policy decisions ?

I respect the way you and other members from the Scandinavian countries defend and at times debate certain SJ points But its an honest and necessary statement to say " The Islamic world is dealing with a number of serious and violent changes, the most serious being Islamic Extremism like ISIS "

That is also correct, the Chinese are weird and inconsistent around they respond to certain global issues I remember how they punished the Dalai Lama by forbidding him to reincarnate in Tibet...I kid you not http://humansarefree.com/2011/02/china-bans-reincarnation-without.html

Of course China is not a real enemy but you absolutely right about the hubris of the Chinese and them telling the USA " you cant speak to Taiwan " WTF !!! Who do they think they are? But the USA does have a real and symbiotic economic relationship with China, this trade agreement is very important to both countries so for me I wouldn/t jeopardize it over Taiwan? So let the Chinese shout at the USA for a while...its not a big deal if we honest?

You see despite the fact you ignore me you were right in many respects about this, the EU should not have allowed them in after the first batch Nothing wrong with the initial idea but it would have been best to immediately stop the migrations of all immigrants. The cultures are on opposite sides and its not worth integrating because I don't see the real sustainability or value in doing this But you were more gloomy and negative about them but yes it was a mistake and I would correct i it f I could

Consider this, even on these forums most of you guys think the media is biased and yet the media is fine So why is it so hard to believe Trump didn't want his core supporters to be influenced by any negative comments so they ignored all media and the only narrative they received was from Trumps Twitter ...this would lead to people that are horribly misinformed

This is an accurate view, there is no doubt part of the Trump victory was resentment and irritation from white men at being blamed and accused of various things by people who are vociferously SJ supporters So we need to be honest, yes the whole SJ crusades went too far in the USA and we need to change some things I want to make a separate post to discuss this and share my perspective You have no idea how bad the whole " lets ignore the media ....we know we right " view became About 1 week before the election Trump had convinced the majority of his supporters to ignore all media and not give any interviews So you suddenly had millions of Americans getting NO information except from what Trump told them....it was very concerning Most of them became like Trump zealots ")

Do you mean the call from Taiwan? You know what ,f***k the Chinese, I didnt even know the USA wasn't talking to Taiwan So its a non-issue