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But Dan I had no idea you were also Cant because I am not convinced or uncertain how true it is that there are members who have different Alts because sometimes members assume people use different alts when its not proven I have been on several occasions , in the past, been accused of being different people and it always confused me why anyone would think I would pretend to be someone else because my views are based on historical precedence and the actual reality of the world....of course sometimes I have been wrong but not about normal views I have about the importance of the USA in the objective of making the world a better place where Democrat principles are recognized by all...and sometimes this requires military intervention in certain conflicts And the recent history of the utter disaster of Syria demonstrates what happens when the USA doesn't get involved ...so we must be realistic about the importance of the USA without being seen as jingoist or interfering in other countries affairs unnecessarily. But I remember when I first chatted to you as Cant, I had just been to Las Vegas and you mentioned you use to work there and that lady use to wave at you outside the office....as far as I remember I also liked you as Dan because you had such a interesting job, the work you do as nurse matters. So I have always enjoyed chatting to you on numerous topics Have you decided who you want to vote for? I must add something you and Gromnir were debating, you cant really blame Trump for the virus spread in the Southern because the governors made the final judgement and they did explicitly set the correct virus rules and opened all bars and establishments. The true spread reason falls on them and the actual reality is on the actual individual for ignoring the obvious measures that cause virus spread If we blame Trump for the horrendous second wave than we absolve the obvious responsibility of taking account for your own actions from individuals. But also Trump has never been an expert on the virus, he constantly misunderstand certain fundamentals of how the virus operates. But that shouldn't be a issue for any Trump supporter because that is not why most people support Trump, end of the day you know why you voted for him and it wasnt because his knowledge of this type of science was relevant ?

volo this has been explained many times and this would apply to all citizens who have decided to reject how science works, this would also have to apply to everyone. volo I hope you are now wearing a mask because these rules have to apply to everyone

This is exactly the correct consequence for anyone in a country that is battling with the virus should face , its pointless trying to get people to accept the responsibility that when they dismiss the obvious virus spread measures that they are putting other peoples lives at risk due to exposure . Its the same as places in the USA They arent concerned who they could spread the virus to especially in such an blatant act of carnal pleasure......so you remove them from society. I would like to see 12 months opposed just to set an example. After 12 months in prison the rules will be apparent Gorthfuscious that is why I have mentioned sometimes laws have to enforced.....you will suddenly see people wearing masks And in the USA its a pity you cant implement a similar law in some states ....that will also reduce some of the reticence you see from mask denialists and people just rejecting any attempt to have common sense

Sure, I dont disagree with your overall sentiment But lets be very honest what would a typical debate that Trump and Biden would have that would matter to undecided voters. Because I still think we are focusing on the view that a Trump\Biden would be about normal legitimate debate, Surly in Poland that cant be the only reason the sitting president won, Polish people must have had some views on the reason how to vote outside of just how the candidates didnt agree?

Look you make some good points here, I just still believe this debate is not going to fundamentally change any ones opinion because of the unusual intransigence that exists where people in this election are going to only vote for one person irrespective of what the other side claims....so your valid reasoning doesnt really apply in this case. Are you honestly unsure who you will vote for ....if you are truly uncertain then the debate is important but I have never met heard anyone who is unsure at this stage. And yes I do think Trump has an advantage here but its not your normal advantage I do have a concern with a Biden win, I am worried that the Democrats will overact to address "Trump legacy issues " and want to implement policies that somehow vindicate this strange reality we are seeing where we are suppose to accept ANTIFA anarchy and or accept some of the BLM extreme views that the USA is fundamentally racist and we need to change systems or policies that arent necessary ....Im sorry but the Portland reality is not something you actually want as an acceptable form of social protest in any lawful Democracy And I sincerely hope you wrong about the Harris outcome because that would be a well meaning decision but it would be a bad decision and I would stop supporting Biden I have no issue with Harris but Biden is the reason most people are supporting the Democratic and if that is not the reality then people have been misled and I would be disappointed by the Democrats narrative

Gromnir who are you voting for this election, I remember in the last election most US members said there vote is confidential which surprised me considering the obvious reasons people would be able to explain why they like a certain candidate Your voting choice is only confidential if you feel somehow posting an informed decision cant be shared and I can tell you that I can articulate valid reasons why people may vote for either candidate or Libertarian There is no wrong candidate in this decision

I appreciate your support for the principle of a normal debate but this is an exception to the rule because of reality of the Trump did in the last election In 2016 he successfully manipulated most of the world with endless debates about things he said instead of discussing the practical side of his policies ...we dont want to allow Biden to get pulled into a debate that is more about populism and alternative facts. So Biden mustn't react to meaningless pressure from people who dont care about the actual debate but rather hope Trump may make Biden look weak or uncertain....it doesnt seem like a valid reason for a debate? Trump has helped remind us that white people do matter but we dont another 4 years of his presidency for something that was always true....it seems to be unnecessary after the last 4 years. You must never be ashamed about your race, you dont chose it and you are not defined by bad historical behavior your ancestors may have done

But I find both accusations scurrilous and unfair, what are real examples of either candidate practically somehow implementing a policy that will take away the freedom of anyone in the USA I can believe there is real concern from some people because that is what people keep suggesting but we first have to understand what do we mean by freedom in the context of how that can ever be taken away in a country like the USA? No candidate is going to take anyones freedom away unless I am misunderstanding the definition

Funny enough I also wouldn't recommend Biden debates Trump because that is normally done when you have well researched ideas on policies and have a deep understanding of why the polices should be implemented. The expectation is generally that both candidates have the same overall objective of making the country better albeit in different ways and you normally gain real insights into there future views But with Trump his approach and strategy is pure theater and hyperbole and they are hoping if you can scare and convince enough Americans that "Biden will take everything away from you that defines your citizenship and what matters " ....now what would be point of Biden trying to engage in this type of criticism? Biden is good at normal debates around topics that people can understand and connect with and are based on the actual reality of the USA , Trump is much better at debating in a world of chaos and lack of veracity as long as the point resonates on some levels It would be pointless IMO for this normal type of debate because Biden may even become unnecessarily unsettled....this election is not about the actual polices but who can scare the USA more about how bad the other candidate is. I doubt we will ever see this type of circus again ?

As opposed to the majority of countries where governments are elected through Democratic elections and are accountable to people through transparent legal systems and Constitutions None of these things exist in China

I mentioned there are some things I will miss about Trumps personality....this video highlights an example

I just watched the part of the " swearing of citizens " and I cant think of more blatant example of overt, racial tokenism than that....it was so staged and reeked of pandering it made me laugh I was literally expecting Trump to next find a black baby that he could hug and coddle

Yes this is a huge factor for there personal geo-political goals and there economic survival and transformation is linked inextricably to the USA being there primary export market But they also want to be left alone to influence there region in many areas like Hong Kong and the South China Sea developments

You right it does create an interesting, political dichotomy around who supports Trump Coincidentally there are valid reasons for this dichotomy that our US friends probably wont be too concerned about yet it impacts certain geo-political realities that Trump has both contributed towards and supported and now the question becomes " if he is gone how do you resolve these things that Trump was addressing " ? So the different countries that may or may not support Trump can be broken from a high level perspective into Russia, Israel, Gulf States, Japan and SK who want Trump to win because his foreign policy decisions align with many of there concerns China, the EU and most other Western countries who I would argue prefer a Biden win as Trump has upset and created problems around global alliances and understanding the importance of certain alliances like NATO Conflict of interest indeed, pass the popcorn 📺

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lovecraft_Country_(TV_series) HBO has released a new series called Lovecraft Country and I started watching it, I am thoroughly enjoying it. Its a horror, drama based on the HP Lovecraft world and it has huge potential

Zora you know how I hate getting involved in other peoples debates but Gromnirs right, please dont jump the gun....lets just wait till all the evidence and all the footage has been collated and then we can malign and blame the police for this incident

Not odd at all.....perfectly normal and part of the Trump theater and represents his transmogrification of reality show TV and normal political decorum and strategy There was a time in the beginning of the Trump era, back in 2015, when he started his campaign that this would have both surprised and shocked me but nothing surprises me anymore about Trump If he loses the election, which he should , I am going to miss a few things about him and the positive changes he has brought. For example I have never seen China so obsequious and conciliatory with any US president. China was dismissive of Obama and IMO treated him rudely at times Last night I was watching a really good interview on CNN with Christina Amanpour and a very articulate Chinese CEO of a global think tank and the Chinese guy basically was reiterating that China wants a good and healthy relationship with the USA, how China doesn't want a war with the USA and it was also mentioned how the CCP actually wants Biden to win because Trump is too unpredictable Its interesting how things have changed because the CCP use to like and support Trump

The thought of this legal outcome made me laugh.....you never know it could be true.? What if the person being charged is feeling very, very, very guilty and wants to receive a longer prison sentence than prescribed, like a form of catharsis....then it makes sense

This is definitely a real criticism of Trump and is one of the main factors he should lose the election, his presidency has horrendously and egregiously mishandled the overall Virus pandemic

Elerond do you personally believe people that commit certain capital crimes like murder or a serial rapist should be able to vote....even if the person is serving a life sentence in prison ?

I am watching Season 2 of The Rookie, so far its as good as the first season

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Yes but in the video provided by Dark there are several considerations mentioned that lead to the police using deadly force, I am not saying it would justify use of deadly force but if you watch the video you will see Blake was not only fighting with the police, he seemed immune to Tazers and he ignored there instructions to not walk away. Do the police need to wait for a person to actually produce a gun before using deadly force under these circumstances?

I like the term the " outrage culture" ....I am going to use that one

Gorthfuscious I have to say that is one of the most brilliant, informative and funny videos I have ever seen when it comes to discussing societal problems like racism. I am going to share it with people I know Are the people in the video part of the point he is intentionally making? For example does he really get beaten up and does he really throw that camera in the sea? I was amazed by the scene during Australian day where they run after that guy for " not showing the flag "...did that really happen?