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Oh something else I wanted to clarify, are all your degrees paid for by the state? In other words do you have student debt and can a parent choose to pay for a certain degree even if there are less admissions available because the parents only want there kids to study that particular degree? Or are all admissions controlled and allocated by the state?

I think you have an excellent system that provides real jobs and career growth once you leave University and still gives choices You not stopping people studying what they want but you are realistically encouraging and influencing necessary skill development Nothing is perfect like you originally said, the Nokia example is what sometimes can occur due to perception of a certain skill field and this can sometimes be wrong...but the good of your system far outweighs the bad

Yes it never changes and never will that the your actual work\institutional experience is a huge part of your learning curve and career growth. And as time goes on and you gain more work experience you can definitely increase your value to any company which means you get paid more and incentivized in better ways because then your company values your contribution and should recognize it But in many fields you still need the degree as the entry point into that field as it demonstrates you have both an interest and aptitude for that field in most cases

Finland and other countries are doing exactly what I wish we could do in SA and what would help the USA and other countries address the issue of " degrees that dont add value and help you get a job " In fact we are trying to achieve the exact same thing in SA where the private sector provides guidance around what skills its looking for. Well done Finland, I am glad this can be achieved. One question though, do students get a choice based on if they actually enjoy the degree and the work afterwards? For example lets say its been identified we need more bankers so BCOM becomes the mot effective degree to achieve this but the majority of Finnish students dont seem to like studying BCOM....do they get encouraged and or forced to study this or do students and parents realize this is the best way forward so students study this without being influenced or forced? Computer Science is still an excellent degree and one of those degrees on my list of " good career path and there are jobs in this field "

Yes I understand the challenge, we see the same thing in SA so its not unique to the USA But we have to find a way to make the point so that young people understand this not a negative but is about there future careers and more importantly the realistic growth of their careers We have been having this debate in SA for about 6 years and I can tell you we dont have a working solution but for example lets say you want to help parents and students make the best decision on " what degrees will help me with my career ", use online recruitment agencies and see what types of skills companies are looking for and do value You dont have to believe me but I can guarantee you the degrees I mentioned are in demand and companies do look for people that have both institutional experience in these fields, this comes in time and the relevant qualification But I do agree its very difficult to convince young people of this ostensibly better way to understand their career path and other considerations sometimes outweigh the prudent way forward But it doesnt change the important outcomes in your career that certain degrees can provide

Gromnir you have raised a very important point around the value of University degrees. Parents and students sometimes, well-meaningly , misunderstand why you should go to University and what degrees are going to help you get a job and achieve possible but real economic success. In these tumultuous and difficult global economic times I would argue you should chose your degree on 2 factors primarily Is this something you enjoy and have an interest in Is this going to help you find a job and or are there enough jobs in this particular sector All degrees demonstrate hard work and add value but not all degrees provide you with a way to get a good job after University. So for example degrees like social science, philosophy , diplomacy, political science are degrees but are there decent jobs and enough jobs in these fields. Parents should ask " are corporations really looking for these skills " But degrees like anything financial, legal, medicine , engineering, sciences and many more there are definitely jobs out there for those who get these degrees and a real sustainable way to grow your career

I am interested in these debates especially from experienced gamers who I also consider reasonable and normal around their gaming interests and views like you I love open world and would love to see even more where feasible and realistic so I never really understand the view " burned out on open world " Can you give some examples of games where you feel the open world objective has been overdone and also how it impacted your normal gaming experience? I just want to understand the core criticism

Gorthfuscious never forget, there was only one true queen and she was betrayed There are lots of traitors on this forum who dont accept this, I know I can rely on you to support the one true Queen, destined to rule all realms Daenerys Targaryen forever !!!!

No not at all, Nationalization is not at all the same as bailouts and we mustn't confuse them. Bailouts sometimes have to happen and are occasionally necessary In the USA you had bailouts and only in places like the UK did you see government becoming the biggest shareholder in some of the banks. But even then the UK government did not dictate or tell the banks what to do, like normal shareholders you dont get to do that unless the majority shareholders decide to fire the board and replace them with a more favorable board but its always the board that drives the strategy and direction In the USA the bailouts were mostly in the form of the Federal Reserve buying government bonds from the banks which pumped huge liquidity into the failing banking system This is not even remotely the same as Nationalization, lets be clear when people talk about this they are somehow expecting listed companies now to be no longer " listed " because obviously that would be how you control the entity and the new entity would somehow continue to function under the control of some government without a shareholder structure and its relationship with the board and C level like the CEO, CFO etc You do get many examples of Public sector companies with a C level and Board that control the direction of the company and its profitability. But you cannot take an established, legitimate listed company " owned " by shareholders and now somehow make that a Public sector company without causing massive damage to the sector and the company

Why cant your son get a bartending type job and help with costs? I meet lots of young people in Cpt at University and also doing part time work to help with overall expenses

Nah, you cant support people and pay for social services unless you have money So you must always be concerned about money and who pays and how much

You know you cant nationalize banks Gorthfuscious because banks as listed companies are " owned " by share holders and what share holder would ever agree to losing there investment and then their is the reality of all the global financial regulations the banks align to and they not public entities, if there was ever a badly identified target for the historically flawed objective of nationalization then wanting to nationalize banks is it...in fact its the worst possible target in any economy. Rather go after the mining or agricultural sector It will be quickest way to crash your economy than any other as if the financial markets collapse your entire economy gets dragged down with it

Sorry Zora but NZ is not considered a corrupt country by any reasonable measurement and I hope you not suggesting that ? We both know typical NS corruption is your normal " man arrested after being found with fake sheep marriage license....marriage to beloved pet was annulled " Thats not the corruption we talking about

Could you really charge Giuliani for RICO? I well aware of RICO and I think it was a piece of genius legislation and you can understand how it has bought down many different established mobs but it will be tough to prove the direct connection in the sense to quote from RICO " allows the leaders of a syndicate to be tried for the crimes they ordered others to do or assisted them in doing, closing a perceived loophole that allowed a person who instructed someone else to, for example, murder, to be exempt from the trial because they did not actually commit the crime personally " Giuliani could easily argue he was using metaphors and never instructed anyone personally to commit a crime ?

Amentep isnt that interesting , you and I have the exact same reality where we live except I have no regulations or rules that people follow in the lift It shows again how much random strangers can have in common...thats probably why we agree on so many things

Yes this is exactly my reality, I live in a flat apartment and from the underground parking there is basically only a lift to my floor I normally use stairs and its good exercise but sometimes I have no choice to use the lift

Gromnir here is a good question, what do you think the primary instigators will be charged with and what do you personally think they should be charged with I have several questions around the legal process that include Will they be charged in a Federal court What would you charge people with, for example they were saying on CNN things like public violence and damage to property Finally what is a fitting sentence, how long do you think the jail sentences should be or rather what is typical sentence for these types of crimes Personally I think you need to set an example and throw the book at them and for those directly involved in the violence. I think the time has come in the USA to start coming down hard on anyone who is part of mob violence and anarchy and this should apply to anyone involved in violence and lawlessness generally during protests But I think you need to use reasonableness, I think the Capitol violence has been worse than most BLM and Antifa violence overall for various reasons so we need to separate things and how the law is applied I am not saying we give BLM or Antifa violence a pass, I am saying it is similar but also different especially around where the Capitol attacks occurred and what was the objective for some.

That is correct, you dont want to give certain developments agency by reading too much into what was their real motivation We all know there was blatant criminal behavior by some in the violent mob, I have seen some really bad stories on CNN by some of the Capitol cops and they were really abused and attacked But we musnt call it something its not, I like the violent mob definition personally ? '

There have been several arrests...all the well filmed instigators have basically been arrested. This includes Camp Auschwitz guy : my most deplorable person The cosplay guy with the horns : he said he did because that is what Trump wanted them to do to save the Democracy The guy with the Confederate flag A 52 old ex-Airforce colonel ( or similar rank or unit ) who was turned in by his ex-wife who recognized him on the TV And countless others who were visible in the media So I want to commend the various US security forces involved for addressing this quickly and effectively. That is why I dont think there will be serious violence on the 20

Im sorry but despite what they say the "new " coke flavor doesnt taste like the old coke I know they had to reduce the sugar, due to the health concerns, so the new taste isnt as nice and quite as refreshing, I am drinking Coke now and its enjoyable but not like the coke of the old days. No Coke global marketing will convince me the taste is the same...its not

I agree , but words like "sedition" , " coup " and " violent insurrection " are commonly used in the media so Im just copying them because we all know they refer to the Capitol violence

Yes the risk seems to be in state capitals and people protesting on the day throughout the states I will be surprised if we see the same levels of violence because the US security forces have been clamping down hard since the violence at the Capitol and anyone even hinting at violence I am confident will be arrested

Gromnir I have to add GD is definitely not opposed to the idea of Democracy, he criticizes aspects of the Democratic system and its application. But that is not the same as being opposed to it. And his views have been more or less consistent, like all of us, as long as I have debated with him which is over 10 years

Do you guys know there are going be over 20k national guard and security forces deployed for the inauguration of Biden I really doubt there will be any violence and people involved in acts of sedition like we saw

Looks like your aspirations and dreams for government could be coming true....free education and free housing and free this and free that and no one has to pay but ...government And the best part about it is you didnt even have to vote to achieve this !!!