BruceVC

One of our government spokesmen has died of the virus, he was good guy and did his job well and his death is all over the news and local media and it made me think about something. Why is he really getting so much attention, thousands of South Africans have died from the virus and thousands more are going to die because of a variety of factors but primarily we lacked the resources and the failure of government to deal effectively with the virus and the spread But the spokesman who died wasnt a president or captain of industry. He was just a spokesman and known in our media but what makes his life more important than anyone else? What justifies all this attention? Am I being unreasonable or do I have a valid point ?

Why arent you in a hurry? In SA we have also mishandled the procurement of the vaccines ....we literally only this month and late December started negotiating with global pharmaceutical companies so naturally we at back of a large queue of countries And the virus is spreading exponentially in SA and to make things worse we have a deeply flawed and inconsistent public sector hospitals so you find for about the last 15 years some public sector hospitals are almost dysfunctional ..here is an example https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/south-africa/2020-06-08-what-i-saw-there-was-shocking-union-on-hospital-treating-covid-19-patients/ The only viable solution to stopping the virus in SA is the vaccine so when I hear the good news that other countries, like Serbia, have access to something that is literally life changing, in regards to the virus spread , like numerous vaccines I am surprised you wouldnt be in a rush to take it and get your life to return to normal ?

Malc that sounds very worryingly socialist ....never forget socialism has led to various carcasses of countries littered throughout the world that are products of failed socialist experiments. You dont want to end up like Venezuela or Zimbabwe " Better dead than red "

But they can make it, never forget that. It all depends on their degree or further education and hard work

He got you there Gfted1

I agree, the mishandling of the pandemic by Trump was the main contributing factor that allowed Biden to win

Im not sure what you mean by that KP....but it sounds ominous

Gromnir he makes some valid points, handouts are not a sustainable solution We have a massive problem in SA where 31 % of the population live on social grants and its creates a massive drain on our already stretched fiscus and weak tax base https://www.thesouthafrican.com/news/how-many-people-receive-social-grants-south-africa-sassa/

You Austrians are cheeky ...you know that right

GD I think you should give it a go, I have always thought you could be a hot women Also in life you cannot truly say you dont like something until you have tried it ?

https://www.timesnownews.com/international/article/china-sanctions-28-americans-including-mike-pompeo-for-disrupting-beijing-washington-relations/709899 China has sanctioned 29 Americans and basically people part of the Trump presidency who are basically all gone now for " hatred against China " The Chinese make me laugh sometimes, they so brave they had to wait until Biden was definitely elected in case Trump somehow became president and Trump was the only person I can recall the Chinese were scared of They dont fear Biden and think he will be softer on them and less effective and have less appetite around taking them on....sadly I think they will be right but also because Biden needs to focus on the pandemic which makes sense

No, it wont be anything like that. He is reversing the unreasonable and counterproductive policies and decisions Trump made and even though Trump did some things right these things should be reversed

Oh dont worry that use to happen to me and I fell for it the first few times I went to strip clubs, I really fell for it but it wasnt what you posted that she said . She told me " I am studying part time at university and I need to make money to pay for my degree " But she was a nice person and we became friends for a while afterwards

Yes as I did mention you can get a warrant to search user data or you can legally get access to user data if a suspected terrorist, for example, attack is imminent. But that is something we all should support as none of us want Islamic extremist or right wing terror attacks within our countries

Good question, " why should you trust them " ? You can trust them because I am saying you can trust them and you can trust me. Have I ever lied to you deliberately ?

Yes I am not disputing that in certain sectors you are correct, its different laws and regulations like gaming and video streaming. But their are global financial regulations that all financial institutions have to adhere to if they want to trade with the US financial markets. These laws dont change anywhere in the world, here is a list of these laws if you scroll down in the link to the USA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_regulation So its not the same as saying " their is no consistency with USA data regulation " because their are consistent laws in many sectors. Its not as chaotic as you suggest

Good point, the words can equally cause understandable and sometimes irrational offense or concern to some like a trigger word Personally I am fine having this type of debate because I will always try to argue the facts and or historical precedent and I dont think I would offend anyone who wants to have a rational and robust debate about any topic that is based on real examples which you can provide links to show people ? But I hear you about the broader point

You joking right....please tell me you joking? You not seriously comparing a Democratically elected government in a country like the USA to the CCP.....you know they dont have elections in China and their is no legal accountability to anyone in the CCP outside the CCP unless the CCP allows it and decides to arrest anyone in their political party ? You cannot compare any Democratically elected government to China because their are no human rights in China unless the CCP allows it and that includes things like legal warrants, free media and the ability to sue public sector institutions for things like " you accessed my data illegally "

No I am not mocking anyone, I know the EU has different laws than the US on some data privacy regulation but that is not the debate. Also certain laws are much more regulated in the USA like all the new financial regulations laws that were driven primarily from the USA since the late 1999's, after Enron, and then after 2008. I work primarily with eDiscovery and financial auditing software and I can promise all this software comes from the USA since late 1990's and nowadays other countries create their own software similar to this but the US is still the worlds undisputed leader in eDiscovery software that achieves legal compliance in most sectors but primarily the financial sector Your example of the Stars Wars issue is a good and valid example of an aspect of data regulation but that is not the same as saying " you cannot trust the USA with your data "...that is what this debate is about. Your star wars example doesnt represent the reality and complexity of how most data directly linked to government and the private sector is managed in the USA . You can trust the data you have in Azure, Amazon and Google to be as secure as reasonably possible but yes sometimes mistakes happen and even these systems get hacked and experience data breaches but the same thing happens and can happen to data in the EU So in other words any entity in the USA , both private and public sector, can invest and use very secure and safe software to protect your data and that data will be as secure as anywhere else in the world. The US government cannot just demand to access your data like the CCP unless their is a security precedent which I assume we would all support as this could be a suspected Islamic extremist or right wing terrorist attack? So going back to my original point, you can trust your data is as secure in the US as the EU because its up to individual companies to secure your user data and in most sectors their are mandatory regulations that govern this so companies need to abide by them or face legal and financial punitive measures

Why dont you trust the USA government ? I trust them and other governments like the EU to protect the privacy of my data? But as we discussed the data is kept by private sector SM companies and not the actual government so we talking about these governments accessing your data illegally What would your concern be with the US government, what do you think they would do with your data personally and why would they care to access your data illegally ?

No, dont think that for second. There is a very easy to understand reality about the world and if you realize this these types of developments will make sense You cannot trust any Chinese SM application because the Chinese government can at any time, and its does , force and demand their SM companies to provide access to the CCP for monitoring and access to user data Its not the same for SM companies in the USA or EU because these SM companies are private sector companies and government cannot easily and legally just force these companies to provide user information unless their is a warrant for criminal cases This doesnt mean I am suggesting you cant use Chinese SM, it just means you dont have the same level of protection or privacy that " Western " SM provides

This post really made me laugh, Gorthfuscious you should quit your ERP consultancy job and become a stand-up comedian

Yes I know what you said, my point about comparing homosexuality to animals is what other people I have had this debate with have mentioned and raised as a justification for a statement like " homosexuality is unnatural because you dont see it in the animal kingdom " It wasnt directed at you

I accept and understand that not all us have connections and friendships with the LGBT community and that leads to misunderstandings For example any argument that makes comparisons between the animal kingdom and LGBT is always going to be deeply flawed. For example someone could argue " you dont see homosexuality in animals so that makes its unnatural " ...this is spurious and false for several reasons that include you do see homosexuality amongst animals, just google it more relevant is why would any human make any comparison to any animal and the animals behavior ? I am not a monkey or dog and human beings have several advanced intellectual traits and characteristics like superior intelligence and the ability to rationalize things and make decisions not based on animal instinct. For example you dont ask your dog or hamster what shares or bonds are a good investment so why would you be concerned with the sexual orientation of any animal,.....this should be irrelevant to your own though process and decisions there are plenty of examples of heterosexual couples being terrible parents and failing as parents. There is no valid reason or evidence that same sex couples cant raise children in a loving and caring environment, yes some things may be different but these things are not enough to justify a view that says " its always better to have heterosexual family units having children"

Agreed but this Du Pont disgrace needs global citizens to be aware of it