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Ah yeah - http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/28/us-ukraine-crisis-invasion-polyakova-idUSKBN0GS14K20140828 So looks like it is on then. People often belived in strange things. Santa Claus, UFO, God, Conspirancies etc. This is not proof. West and Kievan Junta begin cry about Russian troops when they has been defeated by rebels, looks like NATO just try find casus belli for intervention. Anyway US and Ukraine is boy who constantly cry "Wolf". Nobody belive to them now, if they do want say something they must give evidence of own words firstly. Personally i don't see something wrong if Russia support East Ukrainians by arms, US and NATO do this constantly ( freshest examples are Syria, Lybia ( where situation become terrible now ) , Ukraine (NATO send arms and mercs to here) ), West don't have moral right to blame us for same things as West do. Personally i don't see something wrong if Russia invade Ukrainine and exterminate Junta regime. They are enemies of us, better method to meeting with enemies is just kill them. Blitzkrieg in Georgian style anyway is better than current bloodbath in Ukraine. We are peaceful people, but we don't want waste time for useless talking with hostile forces, who constantly trying backstab us.
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Such talkings usually ended by destruction of Western capitals. Why western people so unteachable?
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Western Agents activate anti-Russian actions in Russia now. Phew, nothing new, they again whining about military casualties, but now it's funnier, because they whining about casualties of mercs ( we must surrender to West, this is must stop killing of our innocent dogs of war boys!), this made us laugh. Why West can't into effective propaganda and spread unbeliveable bull**** instead? And most important things - why Western taxpayers fund such useless things?
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Jane's Defense vs. Colonel Cassad: Someone Seriously Wrong http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.ru/2014/08/janes-defense-vs-colonel-casad-someone.html
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Ukraine now
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Meanwhile Rebels surround yet another 5000-strong group of Junta forces and begin common counteroffensive. After breaking of Ukrainian troops lines they reach Mariupol almost without resistance, loyalists just don't have reserves behind military front. Next video show panic in Mariupol, how rats flee from ship Junta-supporters flee from city. http://youtu.be/JFdnnG35yC8
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Just leave this here. Rebel's brigade "Ghost" shelling Ukrainian checkpoint by Artillery. Two tanks and enemy manpower are destroyed. http://youtu.be/AEuhjJoGp-E
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The Iraq war was a disgrace, but sometimes we forget just how much
obyknven replied to Humodour's topic in Way Off-Topic
Lol, these British elites didle simpleminded Murica again. Murica initially don't want into new useless war in Iraq, but after beheading of Murican journalist everything is changed, Murican government do want ground operation here. New stupid war in Iraq are coming, yeah, moar Vietnam wars for US. Now just interesting info. 800 ISIS members are Britts, and even executor of Murica guy is Britt. Add to this British role in creating of Salafism/Wahhabism, their close relations with Arabian monarchies and you take nice image how "allied" Britts forced Murica into harmful war. Applause! P.S. Murica is Hodor. P.P.S. Some secret war is going on. Someone make warning to Saudi prince, remind to Saudits about their mortality. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28832868 But who is players in this new "Great game" is? One side is "British" elites (who IRL control much more than Britain), but who are their enemies? -
Meanwhile in EU. Czech republic ban Polish food, because this food too poisonous. http://m.wprost.pl/tylko-u-nas/id,461955/Kogo-boli-made-in-Poland8221.html Now they try sell this junk apples to China (biggest exporter of apples, draconian sanitarian norms for import lol) and India ( 50 % protective customs duties for apples, no chances also). So much drama and this is only begining, our sanctions is best trolling evar.
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Europeans like Ukrainians so much, adventures of two Ukrainian gastarbaiters in Poland. http://youtu.be/1y081A6XcfY It's just ancient traditions of European hospitality for Ukrainians.
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Ccombo-breaker! http://vimeo.com/68641427
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The Iraq war was a disgrace, but sometimes we forget just how much
obyknven replied to Humodour's topic in Way Off-Topic
Main difference between US and Russia. Iraq purchase some amount of SU-25 from Russia for shelling ISIS positions. These jets piloted by Russian mercs also. Nothing personal - just business. US... Looks like US can't into capitalism. -
Ukrainians continue deliver lulz to us. Childish holiday looks like crazy sect Sabbath. Ia! Ia! Cthulhu Fthagn! Ph'nglui mglw'nfah Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn! http://youtu.be/Bfe1bnNjwq4 Putin is God of Ukrainians.
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Ukrainian punishers teach East-Ukrainians how to be a patriots of Ukraine. US government fully support this. Do someone yet wondering why "police" (by some reports they are military contractors) act so brutally in Ferguson? If US thugs do this in another countries why they must have different behaviour at home?
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The Iraq war was a disgrace, but sometimes we forget just how much
obyknven replied to Humodour's topic in Way Off-Topic
Meanwhile ISIS surround Baghdad, drama "Catastrophe, collaborators rats flee from sinking ship" is expected here soon. It's yet another great military victory of great Obama! Murica strong! -
The Iraq war was a disgrace, but sometimes we forget just how much
obyknven replied to Humodour's topic in Way Off-Topic
Psaki mode on. Breaking News! Ukrainian government support ISIS! No, ISIS are crossdressed Ukrainian soldiers, it's Ukraine invade Iraq! This photo is Proof! Psaki mode off. ISIS capture few Ukrainian APC's, it's really stupid decisions - these APC are defective, Iraq mostly send them back to Ukraine. -
Blast from the past. Spiritual Precursor of Ukrainian Junta is Duvalier Regime from Haiti. Too many similarities here. http://www.thecrimson.com/article/1963/6/3/the-duvalier-regime-paccording-to-haitis/ http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/14832-will-the-us-continue-to-obstruct-justice-for-duvaliers-victims-in-haiti http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article2844.htm http://www.globalresearch.ca/a-timeline-of-cia-atrocities/5348804
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what would you like to know? I could ask my friends from Russia. 1) do you see 'West' as an enemy? 2) If so, why? 3) do you still 'like' Soviet union idea? 4) what do you think about Lenin, Stalin? 5) do you think that what Russia done to east Europe in last 50 years was good or bad? 6) Do you think that anexing Ukraine teritory was just? 7) Do you think that separatism in Ukraine is just? Do you think that separatism in Chechna was/is just? 9) Do you agree with Putin? 10) Do you think that Russia is not in control of Oligarchs? 11) Dont you fear of nationalism wave running through Russia? 12) Doesnt seem as oximoron to call Ukraine fashists while large part of russia population actualy support nationalist ideas? (from my point of view) 13) Do you think Russia is supporting Donbas separatists? 14) Do you agree with it if you think they do? 15) How do you feel about Putin lies (eg. claim that there were no troops on Crime and then give medals to soldiers which were there?) 16) do you want war? 17) Do you think there is freedom in Russia? 18) Do you think there are political processes in Russia? 19) How do you feel about state censorship of internet and media (blogs, TVs etc.) 20) do you prefer 'pseudo' democracy or dictatorship? Few of them would be nice to have answear Just for comparison 1.Yes. 2. During 80s we give to West great opportunity to create new bright world without wars and many other bad things. But we overestimated West, they are too barbaric and too backward for this, they f***d everything during own childish attempts of rule the World. In result we are very skeptical about peaceful coexistence with West. Problem even not in Western rotten elites, but in whole Western culture quite backward but aggressive culture, with all this supermacism, self-idealization, racism and constant expansionism. Though this don't meant what all Western people are bad, but majority (mainstream eaters) is bad exactly. We not hate West really but considered them as potentially harmful thing ( monkeys with grenades - its always so scary ). 3. Soviet Union die and cant be resurrected. But anyway its very cool state, just uncial and greatest social experiment in story of humanity. Just to say what all world history of XX century is just reaction to events in USSR. 4. Lenin is cool progressor who implement in life ideas of Robida. Stalin backward petit bourgeois men who cancel everything, return orders of Russian Empire back and become new tsar. 5. They do good things and bad things too, though in comparison with current state of East Europe USSR rule looks mostly positive. 6. Yep. In Crimea nothing Ukrainian exist - everything is build by Russian Empire or Soviet Union, local population consider yourself as Russians, Russian business owe everything here etc, and most important thing - locals dont want be pert of failed state Ukraine. 7.Yep. When your country is piece of s****t - it's quite logical wish to create own state instead. 8. Nope, because no economical reasons exits for this, this is only worsened life of people here (In same time Tatarstan refuse separatism by this reason). In present time i don't notice significant separatism in Chechnya (while some sponsored by West "Russian" Neo-Nazi demand separate them). 9. In case of Crimea - yes, in case of protective self-isolationism -yes too. I not his supporter, but anyway he is more competent leader than all Western politician's. 10. Yes, Russia under control of Oligarchs, bu this is not meant what we must replace them by Western Oligarchs. 11. Nope, nationalism has no perspectives here, too multi-ethnic Empire we is ( more than 180 ethnicities ). Just to say most of Russian Neo-Nazi movements are Western creatures (i known one Nazi leader who constantly visit Norway where someone fund him ). 12. Fascism is power of corporations really and Ukraine quite fitted for this regime. Russian xenophobia and anti-Western alignment is not nationalism, nationalist's are marginals here. 13. Yes, but our support too small, we must give much more support to them. 14. Yes, national interests blah blah. 15. His speeches is just good trolling. Probably something missing during translation to foreign languages, we understand who really acting in Crimea from first days. 16. Current world order is terrible, but can't be changed without war. Sad but True, big war in Europe happened soon by same reason which cause WW1. 17.Yep, government control only huge cities as Moscow, while 90 % of Russian territory has independent life. Some sort of Wild West we are. 18. Yes, but these processes Western media don't showed, only artificial shows created by Kremlin's own hands (**** Riots). 19. Any censorship is bad. Personally i don't have problems with censorship in Russia, actually i more censored here (or on 4chan where i banned for political speeches). 20. Why i must prefer between these sort's of s**t? I refuse both.
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New portion of news. Murican guy who fight on side of Junta in paramilitary battallion has been killed. Ukrainian Junta-supporters cry about this lose. http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/american-donbas-battalion-member-dies-in-fierce-fighting-near-donetsk-city-361285.html http://youtu.be/F4DpPr9xy5U RIP sweet prince. New video ( 1.5 hours long, translated to English ) about war crimes performed by Junta in East Ukraine. Cauton! not for children's. Why Western "independent" media channels kept silence about these crimes? Oh, i forgot, West sponsored these crimes by sending money and arms for Ukrainian Army. Western freedom of speech yeah.
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"Independent" news channels don't exist nowhere in world. Someone alwais owe them, pay money to them and obviously decide what sort of information must be spreaded. Or do you think someone waste money to media just for lulz? If Russians want independent news they just talk with informed people who live in place where some event happened, or just visit this place and watch all by own eyes, no media channel needed for it. Also some internet resources for talking quite good for taking news.
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The Iraq war was a disgrace, but sometimes we forget just how much
obyknven replied to Humodour's topic in Way Off-Topic
You too slow, Monroe doctine don't working more. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monroe_Doctrine Our bases must be appeared in South America soon. Argentina, Brazil, Nicaragua, Venezuela, Ecuador, Cuba very friendly with us and don't like US (non-surprisingly) now. -
Argh! Your simpleminded statements just kill me! This "independent" media channel belongs to Russian oligarh Aleksandr Vinokurov. This guy is very-very tied with some factions in Russian government. http://www.acg.ru/english/impact_of_crisis_on_russian_oligarchs_examined Actually this is quite dirty story. http://ru-facts.com/news/view/30438.html