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If it was so, then why police didn't for example investigated Zimmerman's background before media involement albeit they did so for Martin? Or did majority of media outlets give false information about the case in this matter? I'm not sure what you mean by their "background". I'm not aware of anything that indicates they didn't investigate everything that was relevant. And yes, I think media outlets either outright lied, or concealed, or misinformed either on purpose or from ignorance or stupidity. Watching the coverage it was unbelievable how many facts were constantly misstated.
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Police didn't say there was no need for investigation, they said there was not enough evidence to bring charges. When people say someone's Hispanic in the US usually they really mean he's mestizo. American speech is full of euphemisms.
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Here's the supposed inside story, the role of Hamas is mentioned as well : http://news.yahoo.com/disputes-between-morsi-military-led-egypt-coup-205809544.html
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You said Z had a flashlight. That is pretty easy to see, in the darkness and all. Because he'd been told not to follow and it's generally a Bad Idea to not follow police instruction- especially if you end up shooting someone? Going by the timeline you linked to that has Martin arriving home at roughly 2.40 of the call after a 30 second jog, then spending a few minutes talking, then walking back. Going by wikipedia's timeline to clarify matters there's a (minimum) 2.20 minutes between Z hanging up and Martin's phone going dead, and it ought to take Z maybe 30s to walk back to his vehicle, at most. It's pretty much inescapable from that that Z didn't go straight back to his vehicle after hanging up. That isn't direct evidence that Z followed Martin further than he admitted- though the gf's testimony suggests that Martin felt that, at least- but if he took the stand you'd guarantee the prosecution would want to know what he was doing for that time and why he wasn't back at his car earlier. Here's the transcript of the phone call: http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/326700-full-transcript-zimmerman.html It's pretty clear that Zimmerman saw Martin run in the direction of the back gate so he headed in the same direction. It's also clear he lost him and had no idea where Martin was. Z mentions in the police interview that at E he reached the street that went all around the neighborhood (his own street), so it's quite possible he walked some way along it and then returned. None of that changes the fact that Martin had to come back towards Zimmerman.
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I found Glock 17 more comfortable to shoot than Beretta 92, Beretta is a bit heavy.
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If he had two free minutes, he could easily have got to Martin's house and back (there's no evidence he did though) since that is what everyone agrees Martin did, with a break to talk to his girlfriend at or around his house. When you only have one living witness and it's the guy accused it's very difficult to establish the truth about such things, but it certainly appears to be fact that Zimmerman had ample time, and opportunity, to get back to his car to wait for the police but it was only a few yards from where he had stopped where the incident occurred despite the weather conditions being unpleasant enough to warrant comment. It may not be fact but it is very likely that if Zimmerman simply returned to his vehicle, even at a slow pace, and waited for police then the last part of the incident would not have happened. We know Z was returning to his vehicle since that's where the fight happened, but unless he made it all the way and stayed in the car and Martin wasn't already waiting for him after Z finished talking to the police dispatcher the confrontation would've still happened. Even if Z was looking for Martin for those entire 4 minutes, there's almost no chance he would've found him in the darkness, thus Martin wouldn't have seen him, and couldn't feel he was being stalked because of it. Besides, if M did see Z before 4 minutes were up, he'd probably mention that to his friend and the confrontation would likely start at that moment instead of them both heading towards Z's car. Edit: Besides Z told police dispatcher on the phone he was heading towards the back entrance (E), why would he lie at that point?
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And the facts are far from conclusive. There is no record of what interaction Zimmerman and Martin had before Martin started punching him. Judging from Zimmerman's comments during his police call and Martin's comments talking to his(girl?)friend, both were likely to treat the other party with hostility, so an unfriendly exchange could easily occurred between the two before things got physical. We can not prove who started the fight, if either party tried to provoke the other, or anything other than that Martin was kicking Zimmerman's ass before he was shot. But we know Martin came back towards Zimmerman's car, and the only plausible reason would be to confront Zimmerman, if Martin just kept running home, nothing would've happened. For defense purposes of course it doesn't matter so long as the jury strictly follows the law, all you need is some evidence it was self defense and reasonable doubt. But to determine if Zimmerman was morally culpable, we do have this extra evidence.
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No, what you have to do is look at the facts, not "believe". I think it would depend on who tried to use deadly force first.
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The Science of Why We Don't Believe in Science
Wrath of Dagon replied to alanschu's topic in Way Off-Topic
This sounds promising: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/13/us/ideas-to-bolster-power-grid-run-up-against-the-systems-many-owners.html?ref=science&_r=1& -
Well, Zimmerman apparently thought it was "****ing cold" yet took far longer than necessary to walk to his supposed end point and back, despite the weather- so much so that Martin could cover ~three times the distance at a "slow jog", in ~30 seconds, then walk most of that distance back after talking "a few minutes" just in time to- coincidentally, no doubt- find Zimmerman who had not managed to get back to his car in that time but had actually walked around a third of that distance from his 'end point' (E) towards Martin (F on the map; and away from his car). The link says that Martin covered around 5 times Zimmerman's distance, at either a walk of slow jog, and waited 'a few minutes' talking to his girlfriend yet Zimmerman had moved only around, what, 10 yards? since supposedly stopping his pursuit at roughly the point Martin arrived home, and ending his police call around half way through that 'few minutes' Martin was talking to his girlfriend. So, what was Zimmerman doing for the time it took Martin to talk for x seconds and walk all the way back to where he met Zimmerman? Enjoying the ****ing cold? There's simply no way Zimmerman went back to his vehicle directly or in any timely manner, based on the timings from that link. So, not exactly difficult to knock holes in the narrative- well, except legally, if the guy refuses to take the stand- just impossible to prove any alternative. Actually the defense claimed Martin first punched Zimmerman where the sidewalks meet, not at F where the body was found, as evidenced by Zimmerman's flash light and another item found at the first location. The fight then moved to location F where Zimmerman was pinned on the ground, as evidenced by other items found scattered along the way. The elapsed time was established at trial as being around 4 minutes, 2 of which Zimmerman spent talking to the police as evidenced by the phone recording. How to account for all of the other 2 minutes I'm not sure, but it's possible Zimmerman looked around some more before he went back to the car. He couldn't have been at Martin's house since he didn't even know he lived in the neighborhood, let alone where his house was, and from him talking to the police we know he couldn't have run after Martin, so he wouldn't be able to see him in the dark until they encountered again at the sidewalk T.
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By "following", he meant he went to see if he could see where Martin had run, since by that time Martin had run off already. He spent about 2 minutes talking on the phone to the police dispatcher, after he hung up he turned around and went back to his car, it's in the timeline I posted earlier. Btw, there's a good interview with one of the jurors with Anderson Cooper on CNN tonight.
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So he's being stalked by a stranger, yet goes back in the darkness to get the license plate instead of calling the police? Also he was on the phone with his friend, and never mentioned doing anything like that. The theory must be plausible, not "Martians did it". But even if he did go back just to check the license plate, it still shows Zimmerman couldn't have been following him or the confrontation would've happened 4 minutes earlier, or do you think they both made a very slow circuit back to Zimmerman's car?
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1) He was 5'11" and very fit. From his texts he liked to fight and bragged about knowing how to sucker punch people and make them bleed. 2) Zimmerman is 5'7.5", about 200 pounds and quite unfit according to his gym instructor 3) Yes, there was a guy who saw Martin on top pounding Zimmerman, and Zimmerman yelling for help. There were also other witnesses who heard the fight and saw things right after the shot. 4) It means you are not required to try to escape when threatened, and can use deadly force if you reasonably believe your life is in danger. This is moot in this case since Zimmerman was pinned on the ground and couldn't escape. Also, can't people read around here? I already said and posted evidence that Zimmerman couldn't have been following Martin, it had to be as Zimmerman said, he was returning to his car when Martin circled back and jumped him. As far as double jeopardy, yes the Federal government can still charge Zimmerman with violating Martin's civil rights, even though an FBI investigation already determined there was no racial bias involved. As far as a civil suite, my understanding is under Florida law you have immunity from civil liability if you can show by preponderance of evidence it was self defense. Of course I don't know what the various subtleties may be. No priors because it was covered up : http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2013/05/01/m-dspd-cover-up-the-curious-case-of-trayvon-martins-backpack-with-stolen-jewelry-and-burglary-tool/ In fact he was with his father because he was once again suspended from school at the time.
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The evidence all shows Martin came back and attacked Zimmerman, Zimmerman wasn't following him at the time but simply returning to his car (the fight took place almost next to Zimmerman's car, while Martin's house was about a 10 sec run away, while the evidence shows 4 minutes elapsed after Zimmerman got out of his car and Martin started running towards his house before the fight took place). Here's a map and a timeline of events http://www.wagist.com/2012/dan-linehan/evidence-that-trayvon-martin-doubled-back The same thing was shown at trial for anyone paying attention. It's an open and shut case of self defense, the only reason for controversy are racial politics.
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RPG's are always risky, for that matter most titles are. Square Enix I think would only do internal development unless there are special circumstances, like a license, and they seem to be in a lot of trouble lately. Warner Brothers I don't know, what in hell do they even do? Edit: I guess I could see Deep Silver, if it's done on a shoe string, may be Ubi but seems unlikely, admittedly there might be others I forgot about.
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The Science of Why We Don't Believe in Science
Wrath of Dagon replied to alanschu's topic in Way Off-Topic
This alternative energy stuff sounds great! http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2013/07/13/germans-re-thinking-turn-to-green-energy/ -
Why? Because unlike other publishers Bethesda seems to be flush with money, and they've at least shown some willingness in the past to finance slightly unusual projects, and I can't really think of any one else who's either capable or willing.
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Woman has visions, leads police to body
Wrath of Dagon replied to Wrath of Dagon's topic in Way Off-Topic
There has been three replications of the biggest one of the nine studies that Bem published, all three were negative. So, yeah. Not replicated. And Bem by his own admission, manipulated the data aswell, so that it looked better. What else from what I remember hearing about it, the results of Bem's research was something like 53% hits when 50% would be random chance. It's not impressive enough to actually prove something this extraordinary. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. - Carl Sagan/Marcello Truzzi Can you link to any info on this, I was wondering why I never heard about those studies being replicated. Edit: Never mind, it's on Wikipedia. -
If Bethesda decided not to finance it, I doubt anyone else would.
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Woman has visions, leads police to body
Wrath of Dagon replied to Wrath of Dagon's topic in Way Off-Topic
Well, passing a peer review doesn't necessarily mean it's untrue But there was some discussion at the time that perhaps the standard psychological methodology was inadequate if it could be used to show something like that. -
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I do think most psychics are frauds, but that doesn't preclude the possibility of true psychic phenomena. One just has to consider the facts objectively and not jump to conclusions. -
Woman has visions, leads police to body
Wrath of Dagon replied to Wrath of Dagon's topic in Way Off-Topic
My take on it is that we have to consider that there may be more than just the natural world. Here's a similar story from 2010 with a far happier ending: http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/04/14/florida.girl.rescued/index.html As far as not being repeatable, that's not surprising. If it was repeatable, it would be science, and science is the study of the natural world. Of course there's also this : http://hplusmagazine.com/2010/11/04/precognition-real-cornell-university-lab-releases-powerful-new-evidence-human-mind-can/ proving once again that porn is more powerful than nature. -
This is torture. First no KOTOR 3, and now all the great sounding Sci-fi games get cancelled.
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/12/detective-woman-with-visions-led-to-boy-body/?test=latestnews
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It shouldn't be, but what is their motivation? It would seem pointless when they receieve so much money from the US. As far as I know they get nothing from their (indirect) operations in Afghanistan. Also, if we all know that at least large parts of Pakistan including the ISI are either ignoring or actively working against US interests, why does the "alliance" continue? They see it as giving them leverage in Afghanistan, especially once the US leaves, as has been mentioned. As far as the "alliance", US needs a supply route into Afghanistan for one thing. And I guess we'd rather have some influence than none at all. Cynically I could suggest they were waiting until closer to the election, but perhaps they did have legitimate intelligence operational reasons.
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