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UK Muslims targeted for speaking out about terror
Wrath of Dagon replied to Walsingham's topic in Way Off-Topic
Fortunately none. The fellow they intended to hire to plant the bombs turned them in to the FBI. If by "fantasizing about it" you mean "stockpiling weapons and hiring someone to plant bombs", yes. http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/2.209/jdl-man-sentenced-to-20-years-in-plot-against-mosque-congressman-1.170431 http://articles.latimes.com/2002/jan/23/local/me-jdl23 OK, so there was a foiled plot. And how many Islamist plots were foiled since 9/11? And how many succeeded? So far as I know JDL has never actually killed anyone. And you're still intellectually dishonest, because you started out by comparing actual attacks and then switched to plots when challenged. The opinions you mean? All of them. So you deny the first fact stated, that MSA was created by MB? Obviously you're not serious or honest, so it's useless to discuss anything with you. -
UK Muslims targeted for speaking out about terror
Wrath of Dagon replied to Walsingham's topic in Way Off-Topic
Funny you should mention that, JDL planned several bombings right after 9/11. I suppose that doesn't count since the targets were Mosques. And how many did they carry out? Would planning involve a couple of loons fantasizing about it? I've never heard anything about that. Pretty intellectually dishonest of you to link to an alarmist site isn't it? Which of the facts stated there do you deny? -
UK Muslims targeted for speaking out about terror
Wrath of Dagon replied to Walsingham's topic in Way Off-Topic
Jews have carried out slightly more acts of terrorism than Muslims(who are just ahead of the Communists) in the US actually, Pretty intellectually dishonest of you to compare some minor incidents against Soviet interests 40 years ago to 9/11. Edit: On slightly different topic http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/how-muslim-brotherhood-winning-america# -
UK Muslims targeted for speaking out about terror
Wrath of Dagon replied to Walsingham's topic in Way Off-Topic
It's not a question of monitoring Muslims for being Muslims, it's a question of monitoring activities of extremist Muslim organizations : http://pjmedia.com/blog/how-american-muslims-radicalize/ -
UK Muslims targeted for speaking out about terror
Wrath of Dagon replied to Walsingham's topic in Way Off-Topic
@Shady Are you asking seriously or sarcastically? Edit: I guess you're serious, I'm saying they're bad guys because they didn't want to integrate into the culture of the invaders? Is that what you're asking? -
UK Muslims targeted for speaking out about terror
Wrath of Dagon replied to Walsingham's topic in Way Off-Topic
Yeah, too bad 16th century colonizers weren't the "peace and love" types. Did it also occur to you that may be the Indians had no desire whatsoever to integrate into anything? Edit: And I guess Israelis could integrate the Palestinians into their society so that Palestinians teach them about the wit and wisdom of adolph hitler : http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/10/22/palestinian-authority-kids-mag-publishes-bogus-wit-and-wisdom-adolf-hitler/ -
UK Muslims targeted for speaking out about terror
Wrath of Dagon replied to Walsingham's topic in Way Off-Topic
Actually European immigration really did suck for the Indians. -
Uncle Sam is not a competing provider. Actually I think that might have been a least bad approach, make government healthcare available to those who want it. That's what they do in my county, and many other localities. You are chastising Obama for hiring someone. Are you doing it because you think that the person he hired is a poor choice, or because you wish to criticize Obama for literally doing what every other politician also does? (which is NOT something I like, to be clear) To elaborate, how capable do you think a former exec from Baine would be in the newly appointed role? I'm chastising him for being incompetent. It's not because he's hiring someone, it's because he's clueless and inexperienced and thus keeps screwing up. I'm pointing out the irony of him hiring a Baine executive when we could've just done that ourselves and got rid of O in the process.
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I don't follow your logic.
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UK Muslims targeted for speaking out about terror
Wrath of Dagon replied to Walsingham's topic in Way Off-Topic
No, not in all cases. There are exceptions. Even so, there's no reason to encourage those who won't bother to learn English. -
That's over lifetime, not annual.
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UK Muslims targeted for speaking out about terror
Wrath of Dagon replied to Walsingham's topic in Way Off-Topic
You have to know English to become a citizen, but the ballots are printed in a 100 different languages. Go figure. -
So the incompetent poser Obama hires a former exec of Baine, which he demonized during the campaign, to clean up the Obamacare mess. Ironically we had a chance to hire the former head of Baine to clean up the Obama mess, and passed.
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UK Muslims targeted for speaking out about terror
Wrath of Dagon replied to Walsingham's topic in Way Off-Topic
I'm sure we will sometime this century, whether we like it or not. -
UK Muslims targeted for speaking out about terror
Wrath of Dagon replied to Walsingham's topic in Way Off-Topic
But you just picked the one that you happened to like. We can go in circles here. I think that your interpretation is used as a means to undermine the efforts specifically to ensure cultural hegemony because when you're on top, it's easy to have the perception that relatively speaking, the only direction we have is down. So? You can pick whichever you like, so long as we're clear on which one, else we're speaking past each other. As far as cultural hegemony, what's wrong with trying to preserve your own culture in your own country? I'm not advocating going to other countries and imposing our culture on them. Nonsense. It can't be nonsense if it's true. Because they want that individual to represent RCMP, not Sikhs. If he can't do that, he doesn't belong in RCMP, or at least they can make that determination. US army doesn't allow beards either. Anyone could claim their religion requires whatever. If a job conflicts with your religion, don't take the job. -
UK Muslims targeted for speaking out about terror
Wrath of Dagon replied to Walsingham's topic in Way Off-Topic
Most of the Constitution has already been thrown out, why not that part? And even if the law is nominally there, that doesn't stop an insular anti-assimilationist community from ignoring it. The fact that a large portion of the Mosques and religious schools in the US are affiliated with Muslim Brotherhood (such as the one Tsarnaev brothers attended, and had already previously spawned a number of terrorists) should give anyone pause, and that's a fact, not right wing paranoia. -
UK Muslims targeted for speaking out about terror
Wrath of Dagon replied to Walsingham's topic in Way Off-Topic
Are these the same people that blew up the twin towers and shot JFK? I'm pretty sure egalitarianism is something to strive for. Huh? -
UK Muslims targeted for speaking out about terror
Wrath of Dagon replied to Walsingham's topic in Way Off-Topic
Because that's exactly what advocates of multiculturalism want. For example they want Sharia to apply to Muslims in America, not American law. -
UK Muslims targeted for speaking out about terror
Wrath of Dagon replied to Walsingham's topic in Way Off-Topic
If you re-read it you'll see there are several meanings offered there, you just picked the one you happen to like. And if your definition includes expressing you own identity in the manner you (not society) see fit, such as having a harem of wives and beating them to keep them in line, then I'm sorry for you. The definition I would pick involves the refusal to assimilate (as indicated in the last line) and refusal to conform to societal norms (because hey man, my culture is every bit as good as yours, so what if we burn widows and kill female children). -
UK Muslims targeted for speaking out about terror
Wrath of Dagon replied to Walsingham's topic in Way Off-Topic
Time to define terms I guess, this is from Wikipedia Different people in this thread have latched on to their own definition, it's helpful to understand which one it is. -
UK Muslims targeted for speaking out about terror
Wrath of Dagon replied to Walsingham's topic in Way Off-Topic
Native American and Cowboy culture? Lol, you don't know much about Texas. But yeah, we'll be part of Mexico again soon enough, you think that's a great thing? Nothing against Mexicans, but if I wanted to live in Mexico I'd move there. -
UK Muslims targeted for speaking out about terror
Wrath of Dagon replied to Walsingham's topic in Way Off-Topic
That's a bit of a contradiction, isn't it? Multiculturalism implies they don't have much use for your culture. I could be wrong, but my feeling is that I've never had my own culture cheapened by a respect for (for example) Sikhs. Any more than my like of red cheapens green. I don't have anything against Sikhs, but if they refused to participate in the surrounding culture, that would be ultimately be harmful both to them and the nation. I don't see multiculturalism as merely the retention of certain cultural aspects which are not in conflict with the prevalent culture, I don't see why anyone but hardcore racists would be opposed to that. I understand multiculturalism as a refusal to assimilate into the prevalent culture. -
UK Muslims targeted for speaking out about terror
Wrath of Dagon replied to Walsingham's topic in Way Off-Topic
That's a bit of a contradiction, isn't it? Multiculturalism implies they don't have much use for your culture. -
The only issue right now is when is this QE that's endangering US and global economies going to end, if ever? It's known that Summers was skeptical of the whole policy, so there's a good chance it would've gone away had he been appointed. With Yellen it's likely it'll get extended, for who knows how long. That is the only question of any importance in this, everything else is fluff and distraction for the low information voter. As far as the deficits, they're projected to decrease through 2015 (due to economic growth, tax increases, and sequester). After that they will start growing again (as one of Kgambit's charts shows), and almost the entire deficit will be the interest on the debt. So we'll be in a death spiral where we have to keep borrowing ever more money just to pay the interest on the money we've already borrowed.