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@Sand: If you want me to present a case to you regarding which is worse, nuclear free Iran or genocidal Israel, I'd be more than happy to oblige. Should I? -------------- @Tigranes: In the past, Obama have said that he was sympathetic to the Palestinian's plight. He is a candidate who promised change yet succumbs to AIPAC and its demands

The Zionists were panicking that Obama may be a

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You did!? Well yeah... Doesn't the US constitution guarantee his right to free speech? Or is abortion an exception?

Hmm... I thought you guys would agree with the kid. He is brave though.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=...mp;pageId=66100 Opinions please...

Kinda like Bobby Fischer.

Islam is NOT the middle east. It is not Iran, Iraq or Saudi Arabia. It is a set of ideas, a way of life that transcends geographical and political boundaries. I somehow get the feeling that most members here are having difficulties understanding that. Going on and on about the Middle East as if it represents Islam as a whole. Or about how 'Islam' treat women like crap when nothing could be further from the truth. If any of you really want to know about Islam, I suggest you renew your subscription to FOX News coz we all know that's the best source of information when it comes to Islam.

@Xard: [offensive racial epithet removed ] huh? Well that reveals a lot of your character. I've always wondered why Finland has the second highest suicide rate in Europe. Is it because of the alcohol? Or is it because of low Serotonin levels due to the shortage of natural light during the dark season and other neurotransmitter disorders in the brain? Whatever the reason for your depression, resorting to racial slurs is just stupid. So cheer the **** up, EMO. Edited by SteveThaiBinh

How would I know? I'm not an extremist.

@Gorgon: I apologize, I didn't really mean it that way.

Use the Force... Beast control.

@Mods: I will do my best to not offend anyone and show proper respect. ---------------- Ok, first and foremost, homosexuality is forbidden in Islam. The same is true with bestiality, incest and sex that involves body wastes (I've no idea what the term is). There's just no getting past that. And secondly, Iranian law as we all know is based on the Qur'an and the Hadith which automatically render homosexuality illegal in Iran. However, Iran have went through positive changes by allowing its citizens to undergo Sex Reassignment Surgery (SRS). While this may not seem much, it is a sign that Iran, though slow, is capable of change from the inside. And let me make one thing clear, I DO NOT agree with their law of executing homosexuals. The sooner this law is abolished the better. But you have to bear in mind that not all predominantly Muslim countries deem it necessary to execute homosexuals. Take my homeland Indonesia for example, hanging/stoning of adulterers is practically non-existent. The same is true with homosexuality. Though my government do not recognize their right to marry and start a family, our law does not dictate their execution. You may argue that Indonesia doesn't base its laws on the Qur'an/hadith and therefore the prosecution of homosexuals can be avoided, but the fact is my country is the largest Muslim country in the world and for the most part, we are a very religious people. Although I concede that generally more and more Indonesian people are starting to adopt to the western lifestyle (increasing number of fatherless babies, premarital sex, AIDS, Indonesian Playboy magazine etc). My point is that not all Muslims are homophobic, just as not all westerners are suffering from superiority complex and racism. Regarding the Iranian government executing people leaving Islam. Islamic countries that based their law on sharia consider leaving the state religion as a form of treason. This law is based on the time of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) when the Muslims were dwindling in numbers and when they were facing total obliteration. So it's more of a military context than anything else. And as far as I know, the US constitution still carry the death penalty/imprisonment for acts of treason right? ------------------------- @Sand: The Middle East is volatile enough without the west sticking their noses in where it don't belong. The toppling of their democratically elected government, the imposing of sanctions by the US and its allies, the warring period with Iraq and the threat of invasion from the US and Israel and God knows what else, have kept Iranians from knowing peace and progress for a long time. Those of us living in peaceful countries couldn't even begin to imagine what life must be like for them, When will it end for them? You Americans... You talk of freedom and tolerance when all you do is kill! And what's worse, your government consider themselves as being qualified to tell other people how to run their country when they can't get the dirty things that are going on in their own country straightened out. Now I am not here to condemn America, I am not here to make America look bad, but I am here to tell you the truth... And if truth condemns America, then she stands condemned.

:lol: :lol: :lol: And I thought I was being paranoid.

Now this is my kind of thread. But before I begin participating, I would like to know if this thread will end up like my Iran thread (and most of my other threads) locked before I got the chance to refute some of the stupid things some members said about Islam and Palestine. I mean I would like to think that I'm allowed to defend my views and beliefs here. If not, then why bother...

@Gorth: I'll try to stay on course this time. ---------------- What I want to know is why does McCain repeat almost word for word about Iran the pattern of lies and threats they used to justify the war against Iraq. Isn't it true that US intelligence agencies have said that Iran have given up the pursuit of a nuclear weapon? But Bush makes speeches as if he

Google this: The Jewish people as a whole will be its own Messiah. It will attain World domination by the dissolution of other races...& by the establishment of a world republic in which everywhere the Jews will exercise the privilege of citizenship. In this New World Order, the Children of Israel...will furnish all the leaders without encountering opposition..." -(Karl Marx to Baruch Levy, published Review de Paris, 6/1/1928, p. 574)- "My sympathies are all with the Jews. But my sympathy does not blind me to the requirements of justice. Palestine belongs to the Arabs [as] England belongs to the English or France to the French. It is wrong and inhuman to impose the Jews on the Arabs. What is going on in Palestine today cannot be justified by any moral code of conduct." -Mahatma Gandhi- "Let me issue and control a nation's money supply, and I care not who makes its laws." -Mayer Amschel Rothschild, Rothschild Banking Dynasty"- "All Gentile Children are Animals" -Yebamoth 98a Jesus was born a Bastard & his mother, Mary, was a Whore (Mishna Yebamoth 4,13) A girl of the age of 3 may be Violated... (Niddah 44b) "When a Jew murders a gentile there will be no death penalty. What he steals, he may keep." --Sanhedrin 57a Death of Gentiles by Beheading is recommended (Pesachim, 49b) (EDIT: I hope I'm not going off topic)

@Walsh: 1. Mock attacks huh. You mean the incident where the speed boats approached the patrol ship USS Typhoon in a

Yeah well here's my take on them: 9/11 was an inside job. The war on terror is bogus. Its all manufactured terrorism. The banksters are artificially propping up the economy, to give a bit more time to attack Iran after another round of inside jobs and false flag ops. The schedule for the NWO has gone awry for Zionists and there neocon stooges. Its a lot harder for them to start WW3 Christians against Muslims while in the midst of a recession/depression.

"Don't worry about American pressure, we the Jewish people control America.", -Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon 10/3/2001-

For real???

@Walshingham: I'm not saying they're the 'good guys.' I'm just saying that going to war with Iran is crazy. If you're familiar with what the Neocons have been up to, you'd know that these people are trying to manufacture consent for yet another war. There is no instance of a country having benefited from prolonged warfare. And in war, the truth is usually the first casualty. -------------- @Hurlshot: My point is that the American people should always be vigilant in dealing with the neoconservatives and militarist nationalists who cry "appeasement!" at the very prospect of diplomacy. Don't let them trick you into another war. -------------- @Dark Raven: Israel Has created 4 million+ Refugees, Holds the World's record for UN Violations at 69+, Has Killed more innocent civilians per capita than any other country 50,000+, Has Imprisoned more civilians per capita 250,000+, Has rendered more civilians handicapped per capita 50,000+, Has Demolished more homes than any other country 60,000+, Has Outlawed marriage to non-Jews, Legalized Torture & Assassinations, Has ethnically cleansed 500+ villages & Destroyed 350 Churches/Mosques You were saying....

@Lei o zee: Uhh it's Dead SQUAD not SQUASH.

In times of Universal deceit, telling the truth, is a Revolutionary Act. -George Orwell-