Judge Hades

High expectations? I consider my expectations to be pretty damn low for the most part. I have one standard for CRPGs. If I change that standard from game to game the only thing that would be the result of that is chaos and inconsistancy. If it is narrow minded to have a singular standard then so be it. I rather be like that than accept swill.

You can have the 5 bucks. I want his monitor.

I judge all CRPGs the same way, RP. I am not going to change from that stance.

Maybve they could be like the Wonder Twins.

Hmmmm... Frozen Corndogs...

If Blizzard wants to make a proper CRPG out of Diablo 3 I think they should keep Diablo 2's character building system, give it PS:T style/depth character interaction, which you could have a party up to 4 to 6. Also it would help if the critters use smarter tactics than just swarm your character(s).

I played Diablo 1 and Diablo 2 for about 2 hours each and was bored out of my mind. Character leveling is only half the character development portion of my criteria. With the various combinations it scores pretty highly, but with the next to nil dialog and complete lack character interaction it scores a 5 out of 10. What it has is good, but it is way too incomplete thusly fails. Combat has a different criteria to go through than character development/builds. I go by the intelligence of the enemies, how well I can set up strategic ambushes and other surprises, and how well I can make use of my party/NPCs that I have in my group (either by joining me or by summoning). Diablo fails in this regard as well.

Yep, Diablo is a CRPG. A piss poor and boring CRPG but a CRPG nonetheless. If the genre evolves, which it has over the last 20 years of CRPGs then all is good, but not all games takes a step forward and sometimes a game hits an evolutionary dead end. For basis of comparison I judge older games by doing a comparison to games that were released in the same timeframe (plus or minus a year or two). I judge CRPG Hybrids as CRPGs, except for Dues Ex. For some odd reason that is the only exception. Can't explain why, but it is.

I went to bed early after playing 10 hours of KotOR.

Isn't that Akari?

Just because it has an Action Prefix doesn't change it from being a CRPG. Jade Empire is an Action CRPG and i still judge it the same way I judge any CRPG. A CRPG is a CRPG, may it be action, traditional, or otherwise. I judge them all the same and equally.

That is funny. LOL.

Hey, a game is what the publisher/developer says it is not what the fans say it is. Blizzard marketed it as a CRPG and who is better qualified to know the genre of Diablo than Blizzard?

Don't be thickheaded.

True enough but I am very focused in what makes a game a worthwhile CRPG or not. Diablo and Diablo 2 are both marketed and by industry standards belong to the CRPG genre, just like Icewind Dale, Baldur's gate, Planescape Torment, Jade Empire, and so forth and so on. So I will judge those game based on that.

Why don't you actually add something to the argument instead of nitpicking over typoes, roshan, or are you incapable of that?

It is marketed as a CRPG therefore I will judge it as a CRPG, action or otherwise. I don't see any reason to do otherwise.

I don't buy that apple/oranges argument. A CRPG is a CRPG is a CRPG and I judge all CRPGs on the same criteria.

But it will have Devon Aoki. YUM!

The only thing Diablo has was hordes and hordes of monsters that you kill over and over again. There was no significant amount of dialog, no insight into the NPCs goals and desires, no strategic combat whatsoever. When I look for depth in a CRPG it covers: 1. Character Development, both by experience by questing and through dialog. 2. How strategic the combat is and the intelligence of the critters we are going against. 3. How well one can interact within the game world and choices have consequence. Now IWD is pretty shallow in most of these areas but Diablo was even more shallow than IWD.

It didn't have any depth to it at all.

I still found Diablo boring when I played it.

You can have depth in Hack n Slash games, for example Icewind Dale. The Diablo series was just boring.

I have heard a rumor that Hugh Jackman wants to do a set of Wolverine movies as an extension of the role from the X Men movies.

Just because she looks pretty doesn't mean she can act.