Product of the Cosmos

new? yes this is new. Known at this time, yes. New also, yes.

I highly doubt the pros outweight the cons. But I agree.. Its pretty interesting

I guess Sony is over obcessed too. WIth their everquest advertisements in theatres and all Halo 2 will be the hottest game in the world when it comes out. Don't hate.

lol. Saying **** off is just saying how I feel too. You always bring hostility and attack when there is none going on at the time. Your a constant troll. I guess what your saying is your always pissed off tho.. And you always think a civil debate is worthless. Well IMO your views r completely retarded. "Do you know how retarded it looks when you attack me for being hostile, and then tell me to **** off a few sentences later?" If a guy on the street wants to fight I'll give my view, and try to show him fighting is stupid.. But if he throws a punch you can bet I'll break his arm. Try thinking before you type JN. It would benefit you.

There must be? lol. If the world's industry and actions was a logical place ya. Sorry, its not And this thread isnt about her UFO opinions.

"POtC, don't think everyone is out to get you. I'm a stickler for typos, especially in academic work. Besides, my real argument was with the paragraph that you ignored in your post.. The UFO page (and presidential campaign page) is funny IMHO. Her hemp arguments smack too much of conspiracy. If hemp was such an amazing fuel source, it would have been adopted as the primary fuel source of some country somewhere. As I understand it, hemp grows readily on all of Eurasia and the Americas, probably Australia as well - why hasn't a country with a lack of local fuel sources turned to hemp?" ^ I would think because they don't produce the cars and they have other economic things to worry about and be threaten with too. But why don't you ask them!? Many people have made engines that run on methanol, ussually the concept is bought by big companies and buried in their vaults. Her facts aren't conscpiracy theories. They are facts, that lead to conspiracies or MAJOR ignorance and stupidity if true. You can prove the facts. As they are not a theory.

lol. Always finding some sort of anything to get a view acrossed you want. Finding typos. LOL, nice counter arguement. And it's pretty obvious IMO UFOs are around. Your attempt doesn't make facts less valuable to humanity. Read around. UFOs were in Mexico following Mexican Airforce recently! But I'll ttyl ignorance, I got some **** to do.

The character wolverine when I was younger was cool. I thought his condition was fiction, although it probably is fully. But there is some truth to its possibility! A nice metal called titanium! Unlike other metals, titanium when put in or next to bone internally for a while fuses with your bone! A vetrinarian dentist in Germany i think it is found this out. So anyone with an open mind, give some ideas how titanium oculd be fused with certain parts of the body to make a metal bone! I'm a naturalist and in the end I wouldnt do this to myself. But its still interesting Keep in mind you cannot cover all your bones unless you figure out some amazing method. You still need a large amount of bone marrow accesable and in function.

"Civilized debate? Don't be a dumbass. "Civilized" debate forums are for prissy, high strung teens that like to pretend they are above everyone else." Ya JN.. I agree. There is no way we can have a civilizaed debate with you around. Whether someone is teen or younger, older, whatever. Your view on having a civil debate is crazy to me, but not suprising your level of ignorance. Just don't come in these threads unless you want to debate the subjects. You follow me around like a homeless abused dog. Unlike the homless abused dog, you dont deserve any help. **** off.

lol Inexcusable. Your talking like the Production Manager or something.. lol. IMO it doesn't need saber glowz. And i don't think it will. Sorry you let such a small thing restrict you from buyin the game. lol, Your loss.

Nuthin big or even detrimental about your remark IMO wheelman.. I just thought it was funny thats all you had to say about it. Nuthin more nuthin less.

"That isn't the point here though. Do you think POTC knew any of this crap before he read this article? Hell no. Potheads (and those wishing they were potheads) love throwing this stuff around. Christ, his name even has POT in it. Either that or he watched too many episodes of Happy Days." Actually I have been involved in Hemp activist activeties for a number of years. And have known most of these facts for quite some time. Not to mention some of my friends run the biggest hemp activist event on the planet. And they forwarded me this essay. Which I may add is pretty good. Even if I didn't know any of this. Who ****ing cares?! Only you! Its like you life goal to discredit and talk **** to me in every thread! lol-Your pathetic. My name does not have pot in it. Thats the abbrev, not to mention the C at the end . Your quite the idiot JN. If my name means pot your name means Juvinile Nutcase. I just thought the Doctor made a lot good points in her context, as well as has a Dr. in front of her name. I don't And volo what would you call Americas awareness about Hemp?! Knowledgable?! LOL! ok man... The only person so far sayin it disturbs them isnt even American! You! lol. It's not prejudice. It's the truth. And wheelman.. lol. Funny the only thing you can remark about in this is they use the word hemp alot. You crack me up.

The new show 'Amish in the city' is pretty entertaining!! lol.

Damn right eru. And JN there is a big difference between Industrial Hemp, and THC. But I wouldn't expect you to actually know what ur talking about

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"I'm ONLY counting the people that completed it successfully. People who didn't or completed it partly ARE NOT factored into my recursion, nor should they." And there laid the flaw. If you don't amount to how many fail while still being a profit for Gratis in doing this, you fail to logically see how much profit will be made and also fail in the whole equation. And in that 4%, are you considering not even close to everyone who clicks the links completes the offer? Are you considering how many levels of advertisement this thing has? Are you considering you have to get 5 people to do the same fully to get the ipod? And in that 5 people another much higher amount then signed up will complete profitable things qithout being able to cash in on an ipod? Of COURSE they dont get 100$ per click. But OF COURSE they dont pay more then a consumer pays for Ipods(Ipod mini $250, 20 GB $300)! As I said, your math may be str8 on. But your logic is not. Your acting more like a calculator when human variables are not being considered. You may be right in the end that this is a scam. But hey, We'll see in a couple months! I have a feeling of intuition I will be getting an ipod out of this. You can calculous my a$$ all you want. We'l see who was right or wrong in a couple months Thats beauty of it! If I read your model right(I obviously did not care to take calculous) 4%. Taken into factor about 1 in 40 who get made a large portion of $ off of actually complete this offer. Thats 2.5% of people who sign up get the ipod.. Lower then 4%. Then take into consideration all those who just 'click' on the site', as well as all those who just enter their email. The 80 and 150 estimates. Maybe Im wrong tho.

"It's also this sort of thing that severly hobbles legitimate, honest businesses who rely on the internet. And since that is the source of my income, it's aggrivating to see people buying into this type of crap." I can see your view totally. And can respect it too. If I actually get an Ipod will your view on this particular one change tho? "It is very much a pyramid scheme" I agree.. But I think it's hard enough to complete and profitable enough for Gratis to not be a scam. But that remains to be seen. And what your model doesn't calculate mith, is the amount of non-successful to successful ratio. And how much profit is made off all who sign up. If 7+ trillion people completed this(like lvl 14 your diagram), probably something like 900 trillion did not. lol. And thats being generous on the side of people completing this... I'd say something like 1 out of 40 complete this that sign up thru the final stage. Something like 1 out of 80 that complete a refference email. And maybe like 1 out of 150 that make a hit point on the site. Your quickly going into quadrillions and maybe even quintillions of people there man..... LOL.

Found this: http://www.sphid.com/misc/ipod/ Im goin 2 sleep.

lol. Do you really think everyone gets 5 confirmed refferals? I'm not even going to bother reading all that right now. I skim thru and see a bunch of sarcasm and caps.. lol. I know like 25 people doing this. Not 1 of them has 5 completed refferals yet. "BUT MITH!!! What' s the harm? I give them a bogus email and FAKE INFORMATION! WRONG!!! YOU GIVE them your CREDIT CARD NUMBER which people can use to call up and GET your PERSONAL INFORMATION!" lol, you type up all that, its a shame you didnt even look into this. you wasted your time. And what little I did read of your post, is wrong. You dont give Gratis(the companies name) your personal information. Just any email you have access to. You give ebay, columbia house, Ancestry.com, AOL, or one of a few other things your personal info. One of those, which are huge reputable companies. All Gratis gets is an email to sell, hits on their site, and a kick-down from the businesses it has people sign up for. All your numbers are illogical and stupid. You might be able to add and multiply correctly(although those #'s to jupiter seem off from first glance, the distance to Jupiter when it is closest to Earth is about 4 AU, or 600,000,000 kilometers) but you have no logic breakdown when doing so. Kinda like a computor without AI would do it with just the numbers. It should take me about a week to get 5 completed refferals since I am getting them pretty fast compared to most people. After that about 7 weeks for the ipod to be at my doorstep if it gets here. If/When this happens I'll bump your post with a link showin an Ipod in my hand and a sign saying 'mith was completely wrong'. lol. Theres possibility that these people won't send an ipod. Although I have entered a contract with them, and they are required by law to give me an ipod after I finish these pre-requisites. This company has been around a long time. Even if I dont get an ipod. They do not have my information. Ebay does. And ebay has a strict privacy policy. Maybe I'll dissect your other stuff later when I'm not about to sleep.

LMFAO!!!!!!! Ebay scam going on right now: "Basically, people are trying to charge other people to reveal the "secret" to getting a free iPod. What's more, they're most likely doing so by giving the people their own referral code."

I would like Revan to be somehwta of a role in this game.. Whether or not Revan actually is in the game doesnt mean he/she plays a role in it. I wouldnt want Revan to play a HUGE role it it I think tho.. But either way it can be done well IMO. Wow, that poll is CLOSE.

Keep multiplayer in FPS etc..... These types of games I like the single player immersion. And IMO the effort is better used with 1 player in a game like this.

hmmm.. Worlds dumbest criminals?

lol Duke university is doin the warehouse sale ipods too... But I don't think going to Duke is worth a free ipod.... lol

lol.. Because I know of this company. "Product, the day you actually get a free ANYTHING from them, I'll eat Hades_one's soiled underwear." lol be careful what you say. and BTW, none of this is technically free since you have to do some work. "You're defending an organisation that requires you to have a credit card to verify your identity? Why do the SCAM!! alerts not go off in your head?" It's their brother companies that verify your ID. And those are reputable businesses that if they mis-use your info, that have many millions to sue their asses for. And it's not like ebay is going to shut down tomorrow..... "Cosmo, I find it strange. You seem rather "counter-culture" yet wholly buy into this sort of corporate scheming." Corporate Scheming... lmfao. Ya sure, they sell the email you give them, and get $ for reffering people to ebay columbia house acenstry.com etcetc. And most people don't finish it. Thats how they make a profit by still giving those who finish it an ipod. This may be corporate scheming in your eyes.. But in mine its called capitalism. The corporate scheming I'm agianst is called murder or theft.