Product of the Cosmos

i can dude.. look at it closer. hold a hand out lik you holding a lightsaber. turn it upside down and at shoulder level, then cross it over to the other side while your opposite shoulder moves back and your pertaining shoulder moves directly in front of your center of view. im pretty sure you dont have to be double jointed. lol but ya i think its pretty conclusive its a dude. I've never seen a female with such a big thumbmuscle and muscularly built arm in that specific way...

Thank you for the info Mnemon you expanded my understanding of anarchy. I am truly grateful Replace my word for anarchy with 'idiocism' lol. Because a lot of the people I have known who think they are anarchists just want chaos by every meaning of the word. And don't truly understand the philosophies of their own named belief. And I have seen how a corrupted gov't can contribute to create individuals who create chaos and disrupt everything around them as result of no hope, and they have called themselves anarchists. Things like the anarchist's cookbook act as disinformation as well. Bombs, napalm, u name it, its in the book... That gives me a whole different view on how ****ed up it was to suspend a student with a shirt with the Anarchy symbol on it. Anarchy placed in a time-based collective consciousness of now with man is considered chaos. Supporting the claims by conservative governmental supporting people based on their doubt of man and our capabilities. Anarchy is basically what happens to a society when they reach the age of enlightenment, which is universal cognicence and no need for authority. I guess I am an anarchist at heart myself. oh ya, and g-pa reguarding your statement about conspiracy aware people seeing it in everything. lol. I can relate. After being exposed to some things indefinetly, and piecing together other things, and seeing how ****ing crazy som egroups here on Earth are. I can see a conspiracy in everything. I don't think there is a conspiracy in everything, just see a possible one. lol. Because its quite capable when considering some factors in motive and past actions of certain groups.

Ya I enjoyed your presence g-pa. Hope your watch is fruitful. lol. As for your previous post I agree with the concept surely. But I'm not sure if that particular slacker and 'auto-victim' mode some people find so comfortable is raising.. lol. But ya I see that often and agree it is higher than optimal for proper existance. If there is such thing. I thought you meant other things previously lol the 'civil rights' horn is tooted in ridiculous ways often. For example recently a black man was shot here in the Portland area while reaching for his seatbelt when he got pulled over. A very unfortunate event. Which IMO and other professionals in the field of law who I have talked to in the matter agree that it was unproper procedure by both the cops and the dude who was shot. The 2 cops who killed him were for one in the wrong alignment for a situation of that matter. When you have 2 officers and you are approaching a suspect or person you deem valid to pull your gun out you have officers on both sides so you can see both sides clearly. Which they faulted in. Who knows if it was racially motivated but there is no evidence of it. Just theory. The killed man also should not have reached for his seatbelt when they asked him to keep his hands on the wheel. The extreme black community was in outrage. I was a bit angry too, but misdirecting fury is often done. They immediately labeled it racist cop etc. In this case i think proper protocol was lacking on both sides. And things like this is what makes other civil rights things that actually have merit(grrrrrrrr) seem so stupid.

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lmao^ So this was the first thread in offtopic here.

all my revan's were female.. lol. But I wouldnt have minded if Bastila and Revan fell in love still.. lol.. Maybe I should try to go thru it as a male. I just just about always like a womans persona in games and RL better for some reason.

There was a bit of both I think G-pa.. lol. "but more and more people in the US are jumping on the civil rights train than need be there." I don't agree. Civil rights IMO are one of the most important things to human existance. And more flagrant things VS civil rights=more people up in arms naturally. I can totally relate with you tho.. I don't like particularly like paying for the shortcomings of others either. But I guess being more healthy and/or functional it is my duty to carry the weight of others on my back until we as a whole are the way we should be, in time we will be. Its a process from one end to the other. So I guess whatever point in progress we are as a whole, humanity should be there because it is needed to further our develpoment as a species to end up where we want to be. All things we go through are needed for our DNA strain and spiritual awareness IMO. Some make the mistake(IMO) of thinking spiritual and soulful things are limited to those who are consciously enlightened. IMO everything is spiritual. And everything has a reason. Like Bush. As much as I dislike his actions. He is a big part of our progress. And looking at the whole picture holographically he is important too. As is everything.

Well actually I was thinking about voting for Bush agian since his open ways of deception are a good wakeup call to those under Clinton or others who think our gov't isnt even capable of such thing. And hades. It is my philosophy that hate when broken down to purest form is love. If you did not love some things so much(like freedom, good people, your existance, etc) you would have no reason to hate those who defile it. Bush could win legitly tho this time IMO. After 4 years of fearbased propaganda and brainwashing. I find a lot of people will vote for him based on those things. They are so fearful they will vote for someone they know can kill people without a second thought. The ignorant American is like cattle. They are noble most the time, good workers. Deserve to be treated well.. But are ****ing clueless standing there doing nuthing farting in the wind. lol

lol well firstly dude what you just did is illegal. And if you are involved in something like this opposittion you would be prosecuted. Secondly the crime regime is thousands strong. The only way to kill it is with ghandi method of peace IMO. Knowledge and awareness beats corruption. And we are progresively getting more aware and smarter. With the uncontrollable and unseen invention of the internet and its effect. Truly the apex of the Digital age and a huge sign that our late parts of the dark ages(yes IMO were still in them) will be ended. People can be educated and aware at unprecedented levels. No longer can one person be killed in an area and the whole community silenced. Now the whole world is at our fingertips. And this is a major good sign in our development of a species to cast away the shadows of our own corruption. lol.. or you could just ya.. use a rpg like Bin Ladens chronies.. lol. But they feed of anger and hate. Your only adding to it if you kill IMO. another day, another closed mind awaits to be freed If I thought truly killing would do anything good I would have killed many thousands of people by now. Im serious.

LOL dude its much more than 1 person.. Or I would have done that myself a long time ago. 'Dubya' is dummer than a meat popsicle. Killing him would just make **** Cheney pres who actually has the intelligence to know what he is doing is wrong. And it owuld get the Bush supporters MORE angry and hateful(yes that is possible), which the Bush crime regime feeds off of. Such things blind wisdom. And America would be much more easily manipulated. They could pin it on anyone, like 'assasin has links to Iran' or some ****.. And invade Iran the next month.. lol.

R e a g a n.....................B u s h I......................................B u s h I I ****in things up.......uh oh not very discrete..............My god throw in the towel but casually.............But still denyable......................they r barely hiding it now and somewhat................to the regular....................only the stupidest discrete........................ignorant worker...........................or most ignorant ......................................of America...........................are still in the dark lol theres a chart for ya.

dont forget scammed the election, has taken more vacation then any pres ever, used 9-11 to get re-elected and as major propaganda source, trampled our constitution, screwed our environment, is illiterate, says things like 'crusade' when talking about Muslims, thwarted investigations on his election AND 9-11 in MAJOR ways, appointed corporate criminals KNOWN, thwarted investigations on **** 'HalliburtonBechtel' Cheney's former companies and Cheney himself, and many equally ****ed up things.. Grandpa I also dissagree that Bush is not different then any other pres.. Hes by far the most extreme. Reagan and BushI were about the same.. Xcept they were a bit more secretive about it getting more and more easily seen and expose the further you get from the R in Reagan to the h in BushII.

and as for the antique comment... Phosphor is right, lol. A lot of the miscounted votes(the ones actually counted) were done by machine and flawed vote cards that were made(intentionally or not whatever you choose) to count a Gore Vote as Bush and a Bush vote for Bush.. Yay Bush wins.. lol. A X by a name works. And hand counted votes by people being watched by camera is the way to do it. Hell, they should be video taped and broadcast on national TV when doing it!

Well its much more than a theory at this point. Theres just no 'real' investigation taking place now or ever. If you look into it you will find many of the key decision makers in FL were Bush friendsly or even his immediate family. You will find the electronic vote machine makers are avid Bush supporters. You will find many more startling facts about the elections. Which all put together are more than theory.. Its due evidance and implications. Yet, our government is so controled it was not exposed. Then 9-11 happened. And anything bad about the pres was basically banished for a while.... but for conspiracy theories, which the election scandal is not much a theory IMO although I guess thats all you can call it at this point. Here is a good one IMO about the 9-11 WTC towers http://letsroll911.org/ipw-web/bulletin/bb...p?t=887&start=0 The guy goes into intricate detail. That is almost more than theory as well. Although not proven of course. But in the end your completely right. Its our fault for sitting on our asses letting this happen.

one of the main ways these 'incompetant voters' were miscalculated was the pieces of paper and the holes were not done correctly. Reviewing the evidance from the 2000 elections its quite obvious IMO of mass conspiracy and fraud. But your right IMO there could have been more vigiliance on the part of the voter in some circumstances.

lol. While 20 seconds may be something.. Its not much.. And they are being investigated and probed etcetc already. Your letter won't do a thing sadly. And your the type of person I fight for personally. Because your so deprived of happiness you like to make everything around you sour. Least it seems so. I would pray for you if I was one to pray. lol. And you may havemissed it. But 5 IRS agents themselves are joining in on this. Maybe that will give you an idea of the severity. Im sure your congressman is aware. This is historic.

lol Well I guess right is perception. But I wonder what your doing in America. I think you would like living in a place where someone like Saddam is the leader. Your philosophies fit his style. "These people are idiots trying not to pull their fair share, and they should have all their assets seized, their families put on the street, and be sent to prison for 10 years." You assume they r just avding their tax dollars and thats it. You don't know them. You just assume thats what they r doing because you have no conviction or values in the way they do. Many of them donate their LIVES to helping AMerica.. Did you get that? Some of them have used most of their free time for the last few years and more to help America. Your view of them is perverted IMO. Although some of the thousands most likely are just evading paying tax dollars. But most of these people WILL be prosecuted. They are sacrificing to make a stand that our current gov't is so ****ed up they will stand to be prosecuted to make a point to be heard. lol. To be labeled criminals by the likes of you. Very thoughtful and caring of you.

^^lol^^ these 'criminals' are patriots IMO. And many of them are reformers for the bettering of America. Whether this act by them is good in your view or not. A lot of them dedicate their lives to helping America become a better place. And they fight for all of our freedoms with some of the most elusive bastardly people ever.. Politicians....... If your agianst their action then petition the constitution. If you don't stand up and act for what you believe no matter if its right or wrong, you are lesser of a person when it comes to determination and action then even terrorists. At least they dedicate their lives for something they believe in.

We're trying but it's eating up so much mem that I doubt it will make the final build Sorry... Strictly from a programming standpoint, but how about two robes that act as one? One for when the hood is up, another for when the hood is down. Is that feasible? The problem has more to do with the different animations required for the different versions of robes. Since we don't actually have clothing physics, robe animations have to be built into the character models themselves. In order for robes to look at all decent, it takes a lot of 'bones' in the skeleton of the model to animate them right. Adding the complexity of robes that have hoods that are up or down on top of all this is pushing our memory limits. Or, rather, we're actually way over already and are looking for places to trim. We're doing what we can. -Akari Is it harder to develop the way you are? Or would actual robe physics make it more complex?

:ph34r: LOL! I wouldn't even want to know the answer to that.. The devs if forced to or not I think are doing a great job to not give spoilers.. I very much dislike spoilers of certain kinds. A lot of the time I can fill in the blanks more accuretly then I would like and find out a lot of something when I know a portion.

I think a nuetral character gains enough by not being penalized or gaining from dark or light. I dont think nuetral characters should get bonuses in universal force powers. IMO it was set up quite well. But its a tenative opinion not so in stone. The concept you speak IMO could be implemented subtly and well too.

I agree with most of what you said grandpa.. But the racial blurb you say is not the only way votes were not counted in Florida.

My estimate was off. All things considered including interest and money Bush or Kerry will ask for Iraq/Afganistan(and high chance of Iran eventually) after the elections it will be about 30% it seems after looking at the #'s close. lol About smack dab in the middle our lacky estimations. Both of our estimations were incorrect. You said less than 5%, I said over 50%. lol.. Hundreds of billions of dollars still.. My wrong estimation doesn't prove anything Xcept the fact that I didn't take the time to dig through all the **** on whitehouse.gov to come up with a definite # just like you.. lol. And by saying corporate war machine thats a label i call the whole damn effort. So dont feel you can use it as a # trimmer for your percentages. 60+450=510, 510b out of 2.1t is roughly 24.3% Not less than 17. Still, even with 17%, 17% of our tax dollars filtered to the corporations that control a large portion our media? 17% of our tax dollars to corporations that all have political and influential backrounds and contributions? Thats ****ed up.. lol. Glad there was a discussion on it tho so we all can have more accurate and definite #'s. Either way, IMO we spend way to much on military. And at the same time not enough. Vets don't barely get ****, if they got what they should get the % would be definetly higher. It seems there's more homeless vets then any other type of people. Sux. "human resources, including VA benefits, account for approximately $1.6T of our budget (that's the shame). our gov't should ONLY be spending money on defense of our rights." lol Normally I would know someone is joking with this but Im not quite sure with you. You might actually think we should spend more on military. lol. Ya lets just cut education all together, we don't need educated people.. We want front line people! lol......... oh.. And all this throwing #'s around.. Whata bout the ****ing costs of !!!!!LIFE!!!! in war? Theres no # or % for that. Because its priceless. If I was like you and JN taks I would feel inclined to march around with a signs saying 'Free Kenneth Lay!'.. LMFAO!@!!!!!!!!

Which is why speaking with a vote is not effective. Which was my whole point. And we the American people IMO, are oppressed by the Bush regime and their interest groups very much so. The cictizen vote is to give an idea to the electorial college if there will be a ****ing outrage and mass riot in their decision. They keep us enough divided for their process tho. But in a non-corrupted system the electorial college is a great idea. But since we got a lot of corrupted fux in our system and government its not effective. We have the best, and most screwed system in the world IMO.. lol. viva la revolution! lol.

I was talking about other statements by JN.. Sorry I got you and him mixed.. your both about the same to me.. lol. Your %'s are about 19% for war or so by a quick estimation. This is a distortion of how our annual income tax dollars are spent because it includes Trust Funds (ex: Social Security), and the expenses on effects of past military actions are not distinguished from nonmilitary spending. oops.