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Game looks sweet. Also looking forward to Call of Duty 2. Two games for the Christmas list I guess.

If you don't like the topic, no one is forcing you to view it. I don't ask for your topics to be closed.

The lack of people playing the multiplayer is why they created Hordes of the Underdark exclusively as a single player game. My first playthrough of Neverwinter Nights was multiplayer though.

The only places I've seen "MDK" used for Murder/Death/Kill was in the movie Demolition Man. Because the fans adopted a meaning for it doesn't mean that that is the meaning for it. Given that the three main characters are Max, Dr. Hawkins, and Kurt, you could have just as strong of an argument for it. Or they could have asked a guy to hit three letters on the keyboard and see what came up for the codename. What MDK stands for is irrelevant. The game is fun, and very entertaining!

Of course FEAR looks better. It came out years later. MDK 2 (I never played the first one) is like 3 games mixed in one. When you play as kurt, you'll do crazy jumping, stealthy sniping and float around with you "parachute." When you play as Max, the six-legged dog that can hold Uzis and even miniguns in 4 of his hands (he needs to for running), the game is an all out action fest of killing hordes of badguys. When you play as the Doctor, the game is a puzzle game. You mix and match components that you find to build things to overcome the puzzles in the game. All three game types are very well done, and the game is littered with goofy, as well as dark humour. The game is just flat out funny, and a blast to play.

Wait a minute....does the current version of Half-Life: Source already have the updated models?

Look at what I quoted in the post you had just responded to: You state that the BIO rep surpassed expectations. http://www.synonym.com/definition/exceeded You'll see that surpass is a synonym of exceed (a synonym is a word that has a similar meaning: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=synonym ). If you were to look a the block of text I was quoting (hint: my responses are usually directly related to the quote directly above that particular block of text), you'd see that you said that the discussion is about whether or not Jade Empire exceeded expectations, and that according to the BIO rep, it did. Again....check the block of text that I quote, before telling me to read what you said. You seem like an intelligent person Volourn. I'm surprised you take everything so literally. Perhaps my assumptions about your intellect were incorrect :\ You made the claim, so the burden of proof is on you. Until then you're just making "false statements" (as you like to say).

My suggestion is to avoid any of the older RPGs that require typing

Another baiting to report? Right. The point I was trying to make was that the new IP thing doesn't fly. If Bioware was merely content by saying "500k is pretty good for a new IP" then I guess a game like Dragon Age is roughly in the same boat, given it's new IP status as well. You see, you tossed out Gaider's comments since he didn't mention Jade Empire (convenient), yet Dragon Age is in the exact same "new IP" status that is going to require over a million in sales. Bioware doesn't make fluff games where 500k sales "exceed expectations" (your words, not Bioware's). Their production values are always top notch and they have an extremely high level of confidence that what they're putting out is quality that is going to have mass appeal because it's a great game. Again, you're not giving Bioware enough credit. Wrong. No where in the article does it say that Jade Empire has surpassed expectations. I suggest you read it again. Couldn't find it. Is this where I do what you do and start screaming "proof" and assume you're just making that statement up?

Dave Gaider didn't comment on Jade Empire because he didn't work on the game. Neverwinter Nights and Dragon Age are his babies. But by your logic, I guess Dragon Age is probably hoping for roughly 500k in sales too. Why'd they make all those limited edition copies then? Also, don't chastize IGN for saying they expect the 4th game to be the "inevitable" FPS (not 100% certainty like you said), and then say Jade Empire 2 is a guarantee.

If they were very much satisfied with the sales, they wouldn't have added the "for a new property" qualifier. Booyah game over word up period!

I don't think that production costs are in the fixed range of 5-10 million. Even then, that's a pretty big range, given the upper end is double the lower end. In any case, I'm not sure exactly what posting your question is trying to solve though.

But isn't that infringing on his free speech? He's just expressing an idea isn't he? (this is a serious question, not poking fun).

It was just that you mention that they have 3 games, but "bet" there's likely another one out there. Well duh, Bioware themselves stated it in the link themselves. Given the response when asked about it shortly after acquiring the Unreal Engine, if I had to predict if it would be a FPS or not I'd choose FPS.

So? I didn't even know it was a D&D game until I played it. I just heard it was a good game. Given the sales of Baldur's Gate compared to other D&D games, I think it appealed to more than just the D&D crowd. Jade Empire was also a game that was actually marketted. It was also on a gaming console, which is a much more proven seller than a PC is for gaming (hence the giant shift of PC developers now making console games). In fact, when you put it like that, the 500k seems less impressive. Bioware was able to make a new game with zero reputation (and a handful of programmers), and successfully sell it on the "dying" PC game platform. Then, after a few multimillion sellers, they release a game that, despite having a near flawless reputation for quality and infinite more name recognition and marketting power (ala Microsoft), they only exceed their first game by 300k? Ouch.

Since I never addressed your first post: The link you specify specifically states that they have 4 development teams. As for the FPS RPG, Bioware's own response was "It's inevitable." As for the Bioware comment, they might be happy. But all that is moot if Microsoft isn't happy. Unfortunately they couldn't be bothered to comment.

I'm not talking about being optimistic that people are happy or whatnot. I guess I should have phrased it more of the lines that you have more belief in free will than I do (as in the entity Free Will, as to the extent at which it exists). I was disappointed you didn't address anything else brought up in my post though.

Baldur's Gate wasn't even Baldur's Gate until Baldur's Gate got released. I don't know how much of a draw games like BG and NWN are for being a D&D world. I don't play D&D but I really liked Baldur's Gate, it's sequel, and Neverwinter Nights. Are you saying that Baldur's Gate sold as much as it did because it was in an "established" (i.e. cult favourite) game setting? If that's the case, then I don't think you give Bioware enough credit then.

Didn't Feargus also say PS:T sold well?

Not knowing where the line specifically should be drawn doesn't mean that one cannot think that there should be one drawn. I don't know where the line should be drawn, but I don't think someone should be allowed to perpetually follow someone around stating their intentions for killing them. Even if he doesn't act out on it, the psychological affects alone can be unnerving to the victim. I also think you're more optimistic about free will than myself, so that could also explain a lot.

Classic baiting. Reported.

I can't think of anything that I'm not allowed to say in Canada. And while I can't draw the line of where free speech should be capped, but is absolute free speech better? If that was the case, is there nothing I can do to stop someone that follows me around annoying the crap out of me? What if I'm being stalked, but not attacked violently? If someone continuously walks up to me telling me that they're going to kill me, under absolute free speech would this be allowed? I dunno. Absolute is a very all encompassing word. Having said that, even in America, if I walk into the White House screaming "I'm going to kill the president!" I doubt that nothing gets done about it.

Why wouldn't they? They've had great sellers before. I doubt they went into the development of Jade Empire thinking they only wanted to release a smaller title. MDK 2 would fit that bill. Enlighten us.

As you say, history is written by the winners of wars.

Where's the proof that the game IS financially successful? It's all just speculation. Harking on sales numbers doesn't mean anything anyways. If I had a billion dollars to burn I could make the most uber-high production value game in the entire world, going 9 digits in cost. If I sell 500,000 units, it's most definitely a failure financially, assuming it sells fo the standard price of a game. Proof is in the pudding anyways.