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Intruiging.

Juhani. There's just something about a catwoman with a pseudo-eastern bloc accent that does it for me. Oh, and also,

On the mod issue, I really would like to see the restoration porject people get with one or two members of the modding community of xbox, and at least examine if it would be possible. I think you'd be surprised just how much they might actually be able to do. On another note, two more pros of xbox: Gamesaves don't corrupt unless you screw up and turn it off during the save, When encountering a bug, sometimes you can save through it. Which means, say you get a dark screen bug where the screen stays black after a convo (certain dialog options in turning the Handmaiden to a Guardian can do this) you can save in the dark screen, reload that save, and the dark screen will go away, andd the regular world will reappear. Con: game-ending bugs. (There are three I am aware of.)

"I've seen my share of the dark and the light, and frankly both extremes annoy me. " -Jolee Bindo. Help those who ask and are willing to learn from their mistakes. Leave idiots to their folly, and try to help the powerless get a leg up in a world in which sometimes, fate itself has conspired to place them in a situation from which there is no way out. Above all, try to stay out of everyone's way as much as possible, live and let live, and only intervene in events if you have no other choice. Grey philosophy for me.

Yes, exactly. And note that I agree with your position, since I too think that Kreia is Kae. I mean, just think Kae + Traya = Kraya = Kreia. Sounds very compelling to me. But while I agree, we have to accept that we can only argue for the position - it must be an informed argument, and since there is no absolute proof that Kreia is Kae, then we must accept that Kreia being Kae is merely conjecture and cannot be anything else. If not, we cannot demand the same standard from those who argue against that position. Yes, except for Kreia saying that she was Revan's master (and probably the first given the references to "returning to his first master"-comments), Kae is indeed the master the furthest back that we hear of. It supports the idea that Kreia is Kae, but that's all it does... Oh please no - don't reveal Kreia's secrets - this is too much fun... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oh, you misunderstand. I don't think a timeline would settle it. However, it might very well indeed make it even more muddy, especially if it's just a year by year.

Your statement about Telos is correct, but I seem to remember Kriea making it. It is entirely possible that both do.

Jediphile, I do my biggest leap of faith there, I'll be honest. But in every source (other than Kriea) Kae is mentioned as the farthest one back. The inference I get from that is she likely was the first, since if you think about it, most people remember the beginnings of a thing, and the ending, but details in the middle tend to get fuzzy. But although the inference is there, I cannot say that the statement is there. That is true. Which is exactly why this debate continues....... Whomever said Obsidian should release a timeline of events, in order to clarify seemingly conflicting accounts, was on to something.

Yes Yes No. What Mical says is this: Disciple: "Revan sought out many other teachers to learn certain techniques. I do not recall who Revan's master was... strange. As a Padawan, Revan was trained by Master Kae, before she was exiled. Strange, I do not recall who Revan's master was after that.And it is said that he went to his first - and final - master to learn how to leave the order entirely, as she had.And such teachings and their teachers is why I harbor doubts, why I wonder if something is missing from the Jedi code." He just says that he doesn't remember who Revan's master was after Kae, and obviously that does not discount the possibility that she might have been the first. I'm fairly certain that we are never conclusively told who Revan's first master was, though it is certainly implied that it was Kreia. But again, this does not say that Kreia cannot be Kae. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Disciple also says (if you are male talking to him in the sublevel) "Revan had many Masters." He then goes on to list four in reverse chronological order, and ends with Kae. So the inference is she was one of his first, if not THE first. It's just my belief she is the first. Thus the debate continues.

It's Bao-Dur. Didn't the patch reduce the frequency he said his lines during non-combat events? I remember early on if you were controlling him he'd say "Pure pazaak" every time you opened a door, which became really annoying. I think it's a more random now. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Another Mandalore one, if it hasn't been mentioned: Who wants to die first?

ah, I'm doing it now, I see what he means. Walk to the center courtyard and when it does the round and round cut, looking around the courtyard, it unattaches whomever is there from you, and now they stay. Then go outside, pick up two more, and repeat. *EDIT* Whomever you bring back in with you will follow you into the council room, then you can hear their thoughts. *Edit #2* I think Mira doesn't say anything because I walked in the first time with her. Someone try walking in the first time with two droids and see if Mira will speak then. You can also have TWO miras in the same shot if you took her in first, I assume this applies to whomever you go in with first. I'll attempt a cam pic (can't screenshot,no capture card) later. *EDIT #3* Tried three times to take a pic this morning, couldn't get the glare out of the shot. I'll try again tonight after dark, This office has a lot of windows and thus a lot of glare.

The Handmaiden also says (and I think the sisters too) "I shall honor them with battle".

You don't have to have a mod chip to have a Linux Dashboard, you just have to have an original run copy of Mechassault. The first run ones have an exploitable weakness that allows you to do what you need to do to install a Linux based dashboard.

After reminders in another thread, explain the "Traya Academy left or right path" Kreia talks about or why Mandalore think blowing the Ravager will piss off the republic? Ain't you confused with the EP I Padme (14) played by a adult actor (Natalie Portman)? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No sir, originally, Leia and Luke were supposed to be 16. I guess he decided to change this with Ep III. Keep in mind I'm probably older than most of you, I saw V and VI in theater. I was a little young for IV though.

Wow, he really did rewrite history.... ah well. 16 used to be the nemuber.

I think the correct line is "Optimum accuracy ratio achieved!" <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hehe, you're both right, in a sense. Bulgarian, your version is the HK-50 saying. The other version is HK-47.

Not exactly true, but I get what you are saying. Here's what I am getting at though, with an override folder, if you had a "RunLinux" dashboard, you could access such an override folder to generate the necessary parameters to unlock things like the droid planet. Think "hot coffee". Rockstar eventually admitted it was on the disk, just not unlockable without an override. A "RunLinux" dashboard will allow you to do things like this. But, no one has.

Until the cut content is officially in a game, it doesn't exist in the timeline, or in Canon.

Although I agree with most of your points, this one cannot be correct. The Mandalorian Wars took place only about a decade before KotOR2, and Handmaiden is clearly older than that. Kae did leave to fight in the war, but she must have given birth to Brianna almost a decade before that. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The Mandalorian War ended about a decade before KOTOR II, I think the war itself was something like 5-6 years? Now Brianna does look a bit older than 16, but it is possible. After all, Leia was only supposed to be 16ish in ANH, and to put it bluntly, Ms. Fisher was quite older than that.

Yeah, that was kind of silly. You can make every other breathing being on the ship into a jedi except him?? Well, Hanharr, but let's face it, I never play dark side, I'll never have him.

Sorry, I have never taken him back out of the ship. In fact, I've never leveled him up.

Actually, cut content "officially" never exists. This is because many users (like the xbox people) can never gain access to it, and will never be able to see the material. So you cannot make cut content "Canon" as it were, only content that stayed in the game.

Pardon me if I don't thinkyou are correct. And also pardon me for not believing content not in the game. I saw a comment the other day where a guy said that in the cut content "that was made Canon" WHAT??? It's CUT. IT CANNOT BE CANON, IT WAS CUT. IT NEVER HAPPENED. Moving on, Kriea claims to be Revan's first master. Other sources in the game Claim Arren Kae to be his first. The two sources cannot be reconciled unless Kriea = Kae.

Yup. Mira can be turned into a Jedi without ever having left Nar Shaddaa. (Since that's where you get her) Also, Disciple can be made into a jedi without taking one step from the moment he joins your party. It does require talking to him at length though.

This won't take Long is either Atton or Bao-Dur. Kriea's is "I will silence this one"

I'm sorry, you people need to get out of the gutter.