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Roger Waters - Watching T.V And she is different from Cro-Magnon man She's different from Anne Boleyn She is different from the Rosenbergs And from the unknown Jew She is different from the unknown Nicaraguan Half superstar half victim She's a victor star conceptually new And she is different from the Dodo And from the Kankanbono She is different from the Aztec And from the Cherokee She's everybody's sister She's symbolic of our failure She's the one in fifty million Who can help us to be free Because she died on T.V. And I grieve for my sister

King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King The dance of the puppets The rusted chains of prison moons Are shattered by the sun. I walk a road, horizons change The tournaments begun. The purple piper plays his tune, The choir softly sing; Three lullabies in an ancient tongue, For the court of the crimson king.

It's funny, I and Dawkins seem to share same problems and questions with faith, yet our ways of handling them (and our worldviews) are very different.

That's best advertising campaign EVAR! Yay, off to level 3 <3 edit: completed it. Why they have green blood?

Wow, that's just.. unbeliavable. I wonder if two 8800 GTX's could've done the job...

I agree, I thought the 3rd book was the weak link in the series as well. Finished Shogun; excellent book! As someone else in the thread mentioned, Clavell is a master of the subplot. The twists and turns were fun to read, and I actually read the last 250 or so pages in one night and was pretty much a zombie at work the next day. Now reading The Green Mile, by Stephen King. Tsk tsk. The Wasteland is pure awesomeness. Also, one small shop in easter Finland really screwed up with newest Potter. They sold already few copies, blame of course on screwed up summer workers something similar happened in USA too, heh Some guy took pictures of every page and put it in the internets. I heard Rowling was furious Nonetheless I'm going to pick my copy tomorrow. I'm not Potter fan, but they're good books even with their shortcomings and there isn't anything else interesting me anyway

I'd read most of it by the time I wrote that post. And even if no one had claimed Bible being infallible, at least original post seemed to give great scientifical merit for Bible (Noah's ark being found etc.) On that Nightshade's post... truly humans are playing gods.

Mus? are you playing SS2 with those graphic updates (rebirth or whatever it was) or not? Just curious. Since my comp still is dead I've succumbed into consoles and have been playing 007 From Russia with Love's multiplayer with my friend. Actually great fun, but how can you ever accurately snipe with pad, geez

lol wut

^ That isn't possible for mammals

The Gunner's Dream and The Final Cut are awesome. Pink Floyd - Pigs on the Wing part 2

Barzarel can't you just understand that you CAN NOT USE HISTORY OF ETHICS AND CULTURES OF REAL WORLD AS ARGUMENTS in Star Wars world goddamnitchristsakes!

Ehh? edit: I'm listening Dogs again since I forgot to take off that repeat thingy. Who was born in a house full of pain. Who was trained not to spit in the fan. Who was told what to do by the man. Who was broken by trained personnel. Who was fitted with collar and chain. Who was given a pat on the back. Who was breaking away from the pack. Who was only a stranger at home. Who was ground down in the end. Who was found dead on the phone. Who was dragged down by the stone.

Heh, Gypsy punk Pink Floyd - Sheep I love the part when sheep rebel against rule of the Pigs (Dogs being enforcers of it), overcome it and yet as they are ignorant and simple animals, things won't be better, maybe wore and more anarchic. Easy to draw analogues to communist revolution in Russia. Bleating and babbling I fell on his neck with a scream. Wave upon wave of demented avengers March cheerfully out of obscurity into the dream. Have you heard the news? The dogs are dead! You better stay home And do as you're told. Get out of the road if you want to grow old.

actually that would've been much better example, since unlike this Virgin Birth thing, there isn't other sources in scriptures that makes up the "correct" translation (as virgin is correct translation here)

I thought you had enough of this here. I haven't read full topic yet, but using Bible as a infallible source of info is ridiculous. Logical errors and downright silliness aside, even mere number of retranslations makes things vague. For instance, whole virgin birth thing. Hebrew word used for Mary is almah, which means young girl/woman. Being virgin is not part of the word. "Almah ("עלמה") or plural: alamot ("עלמות") is a Hebrew feminine noun, for a girl who has reached puberty but is still under the shielding protection of her family; she is a young, marriageable (i.e. unmarried) girl. In Bibles, almah is typically translated as virgin, maiden, young woman, damsel or girl. For theological reasons, the meaning and definition of this word (especially the definition of "virgin") can be controversial, particularly when applied to Isaiah 7:14." That's how wiki puts it. Of course, it's clear both Matthew and Luke meaned that Mary was virgin (it's clearly visable from thier narrative) and almah's were mostly virgins, but this is still great example of how fallible translations tend to be. Also, useful "affirming" for those constructing historical Jesus Here's table for comparison for those interestested. "From the earliest days of Christianity, Jewish critics have argued that Christians were mistaken in their reading of almah in Isaiah 7:14.[17] Because the author of Matthew 1:23, believed that Jesus was born of a virgin, he quoted Isaiah: "Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son" as a proof-text for the divine origin of Jesus. Jewish scholars declare that Matthew is in error, that the word almah means young woman (just as the male equivalent elem means young man). It does not denote a virgin or sexual purity but age. Because a different Hebrew word, bethulah ("בתולה"), is most commonly used for virgin even in modern Hebrew, the prophet could not have meant virgin in Isaiah 7:14. Many Christian apologists respond that throughout the Old Testament, in every other instance where a girl is described as almah, she is a girl who has never known a man carnally or had intercourse. Moreover, the word bethulah is sometimes used to describe women who are arguably not virgins (Joel 1.8 and Esther 2:8-17), and in at least two cases (Genesis 24: 16 and Judges 21: 12), an additional phrase in the text explains that that the bethulah has "not known a man." Thus, they argue, almah refers to virgins more consistently than does bethulah. Most importantly, the Jewish scholars who translated and compiled the Hebrew scriptures (the Torah first and then later the Prophets and the Writings) into a Greek version of the Old Testament, translated almah in Isaiah 7:14 as parthenos, which almost always[18] means "virgin". Since these Jewish scholars were well acquainted with the meaning of the old Hebrew words as well as the Greek, their interpretation (developed hundreds of years before Jesus) should be given special weight. Some scholars contend that debates over the precise meaning of bethulah and almah are misguided because no Hebrew word encapsulates the idea of certain virginity. Martin Luther also argued that the debate was irrelevant, not because the words do not clearly mean virgin, but because almah and bethulah were functional synonyms"

Pink Floyd - Dogs I love Animals album. One of their best. Especially Dogs (Dogs are used to represent the megalomaniacal businessmen who destroy themselves and those around them by obsessing over their egos and their careers )bwith Gilmour's factastic guitar work and Water's lyrics is one of my favorite songs by them. If Animal Farm would've been album instead of book, it would be this. And after a while, you can work on points for style. Like the club tie, and the firm handshake, A certain look in the eye and an easy smile. You have to be trusted by the people that you lie to, So that when they turn their backs on you, You'll get the chance to put the knife in.

Lots of stuff about how this teeter-tootering on the pseudo-ethical precipice was complete crap and useless. Wait...why can't you remember? We talked about this "post on the internet when drunk"-thing of yours before, right? No memories of that either Anyway, I guess that post was little bit too harsh and mean in that post. I'm not safe from fanwanking. And talking about ethics and morals are one of my keen interests, but I tend to get little bit... annoyed when they're implemented too heavily into Star Wars Galaxy. SW is fairy tale world, there's Good and there's Bad. Of course there are many shades of grey too (K2 brought these things upfront nicely), but when someone starts to claim and prove that there isn't "evil" in Star Wars Galaxy either... It goes against the core parts of world of SW as well as against words and intentions of its creator, Lucas. That, Mus?, was awesome. especially your "perverted use of Force" reasoning should finally make dark jedi (we're misunderstood!) fanboys to be silent GL never bothered to give that fine reasoning why sith were evil. Great job and should finally answer question of this topic.

In Soviet Russia spam spams YOU! That game looks kinda interesting. If my comp just would work...

Star Wars universe

Just what exactly did I write?

Ha! I got it! "Ich wolle spiele Unreal Tournament!" Also, ich habe keine links :sad: