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What does this industry need an award show for though? And what is it still worth? Genuinelly asking. Becuz: In 2024, Hollywood have reached new heights of envious even without any awards. As unlike them, the gaming industry has found a way of eradicating mediocre to stinker product pretty much altogether. In fact, it's only producing the goods. Or so it seems. Metacritic lists 400 games as to 2024. That's obviously not all games released in 2024, with thousands of garage indies on Steam alone -- we're talking Hollywood here being envious, after all. Big stuff. 250 of those games hold at least a Metascore of 75. Less than 100 one below 70 (a 6/10 is still supposed to be an "okay" game according to most review policies). 2 (TWO) one of below 50, but barely. I was thinking of that also recently with the "access journalism controversy" surrounding the Veilguard -- publishers doing their earnest to get all of their games high review scores on launch day are actually doing themselves a disservice. Because high grades in gaming are so common, they are almost meaningless by now. And Michael Bay, Disney, Roland Emmerich et all should consider rather spending millions on making video games ASAP, as then they'd easily escape the wrath of their more demanding critics. And as to game makers, they should rather pitch their product on unique, exciting and emotionally engaging ideas. Even if their product ends up being rated favorably -- so will be their competition. And the competition of their competition. Which brings me back to Avowed... What's like the ACTUAL deal about it?
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It's not about trying to put things into boxes. It's getting sold people on an exciting idea. So far, the only people I'd guess to be at least some invested in this would be Obsidian regulars and like the two blokes who played Deadfire (like @Wormerine and me). And even us, we don't know actually why. Compare this to Warhorse, who are really pushing what's actually unique about KCD II -- or Larian last term promoting the (very D&D) idea of a game where (almost) anything would be possible. Or heck, anything! It's almost as if Obsidian are still wondering themselves at this point. Given that the game was supposed to come out this month already, that'd be curious.
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I still don't understand the elevator pitch of Avowed. I mean, obviously, it was "Pillars, but like Skyrim" at some point. But after the reboots it obviously was scaled back and changed. But changed to,... what? Another Action/RPG-Like power fantasy, this time taking place in the same universe as that CRPG you had never played if you aren't me? Pillars, but like The Outer Worlds? If I wouldn't be following Obsi -- if this wouldn't be an Obsi / Eternity game -- I probably wouldn't have it bookmarked at this point.
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Thanks, gonna try it when I have upgraded my PC. Speaking of which, found an analysis of Gothic that was uploaded today. Game makers back in the day: "Let's let people forget that they're just playing a damn video game!" Game makers today: "Screw that. If we're lucky, the 2,000 bucks GeForce hardware will do the job we can't."
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Is Cyberpunk the same? I thought it was kinda like Deus Ex-lite. It's curious. But coming from games like Drova, whenever you're guided this heavily, it feels mundane and mechanical too. Like your to-do list at work: "Next go here and finish that. After that move over here and do precisely this." It's a passive experience, sure. But it's still something entirelly different from just watching a movie unfold. Whereas with something that lets you actually explore on your own and does it well, you're actually getting lost in that world. And be allowed to flee the mundane, mechanical and laundry listing for a while. Like, have an adventure! Kinda like when you were a kid playing in the forest. [It seems Nintendo have still realized this some with Zelda as well]. Of course, despite companies being afraid of players getting lost, "BIGGER IS BETTER!" is still the mantra for the worlds they build. How about simply going smaller if you're scared chicken? A NO-GO for them. Neither Drova nor the original Gothic are particularly huge (really, it takes like four minutes on foot to get from one of the major factions to the other). But apparently BIGGER NUMBERS are still meant to wow. And thus for Starfield, even the skies of the entire galaxies aren't the limit anymore. And rather than breaking records in square miles, it's LIGHT YEARS now. Overall, I'm having fun now in Witcher 3, mind. And I'll play it to the end!
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Henry's coming home baby. And it's Europe's that's keeping bigger budget RPGs interesting. On that note, I've restarted The WItcher 3... and this is the first time it clicked. I had a beef with so much of the quests being railroady, the simple systems/combat, and all that. Additionally, Ciri isn't really properly introduced (never read the books), but still made the hook of the story, the damsel to hunt after. Never really worked much for me. This time I focused on the side content, adjusted the difficulty and skilled differently (which made combat more tactical) -- and even found a few alternative solutions to a quest here and there that wasn't spoilt by markers. (F'r instance, you can find the bandit hideout in Novigrad simply by listening to dialogues and following the clues, as opposed to doing what the quest log encourages you to do, step by step... so much more immersive!) I'm in now truly though. Novigrad looks like I'd always pictured Riva in my head way back on my Pentium 75.
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The entire Dragon Age series is a mirror image of Bioware's existence. Which is one of following market trends. Origins (initially announced as Dragon Age in 2004) was pitched as a "back to the roots" project. Not late into their careers, like an aging Rock band would. But rather barely two moons after Throne Of Bhaal had shipped. Why is that so? Because the only thing consistent with Bioware games is/was their authors. Everything else was up for grabs, targeting whatever's currently hot. Neverwinter Nights? Multiplayer. Jade Empire? Console action-adventures. Mass Effect? Gears Of War. The Old Republic was clearly meant to be a World Of Warcraft Killer -- and Inquisition went bigger becuz Skyrim. And even BG wore its RTS influences on its sleeve (in particular Warcraft 2 at that time, which James Ohlen et all were big fans of). "We want Call Of Duty's audience" is one of the most infamous quotes in RPG history -- as if id Software would announce to target (or at least try hard to not alienate) Monkey Island fans next.
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What are you Playing Now? - Right Now at the moment edition
Sven_ replied to melkathi's topic in Computer and Console
I'm the same with any game that treats me like a tool -- or as if Looking Glass had never existed. Yeah it's a mockup, but you probably know by looking what I mean. Unless it's something I really wanna play. It's funny how studios spend gazillions on photo realistic visuals. There's entire task forces dedicated to hairdos alone. And then it's all down the toilet as you're either reminded constantly you're playing a damn video game and/or you can't touch anything without being told when, how and if to do so. Waste of time, people and money -- doubly so if you consider the ridiculous dev cycles mainly caused by visual fidelity. Speaking about which, Drova is scary. I'm hesistant to post my playing hours, because the game must scratch an itch that hadn't been scratched recently much. And reading about the devs, I know which one it is. Aside of the obvious Gothic1+2 inspirations, what really drove them forward was the desire to make a game where you get to explore and figure things out for yourself. I think I may revisit some of these thereafter... -
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I'm like a dozen hours in, and still didn't join one. Couldn't decide yet (but I think I've made my decision). Even got a super high level weapon in my pockets by luring a guy LEAGUES above my level in front of a camps' guards and looting him after they had ripped him. Don't have the required attributes to use it though, for which you eventually have to join a faction. Exploration is so much fun, it's a joy (and clearly the biggest strength). Lots of biomes, even some early game critters appear later with a "twist". Optional caves, lore pieces, etc. Plus night time in the woods or exploring caves and mines can be even a little creepy, the sound design sells a lot of that. Got robbed blind by a bunch of bandits though in the woods more recent. They beat me into unconscious and took like half my money. Ooooof. Playing the Iron mode that only updates one (auto-)save. So whenever **** happens, it happens (except for game overs, of course). I wanted it that way. I know where the ****ers are hiding now though. Just you wait when I got my faction gear and armor. JUST YOU ****ERS WAIT. That said, I recently watched somebody playing with the player position showing on the map enabled. I actually think this spoils the (intended) experience. Tbh, I didn't even buy the more detailed world map and still own the one that Asmus haphazardly draws for you in the beginning... -
Never thought that would ever be the case way back in 1999, when I was spending on GPUs, CPUs, sound cards and Gaming's Next Visual Blockbusters like there'd be no tomorrow... or 2024. But all I actually need in 2024 are apparently pixels (Drova - Forsaken Kin). Earlier this year, there was SKALD too, after all.
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Sven_ replied to melkathi's topic in Computer and Console
Not sure if it's an exploit, but there's a way which I found after trying. Yeah, at least the beginning area is a bit Gothic-like. However, Obsidian also lock the map geographically. There's the mountain range in the middle of the map, which makes the definite way through basically an U. Here as well, you can go everywhere from the start. At least if you stick to the roads and run. However, the faction location/s are (partially) locked. Gothic is basically like this: You arrive as a total nobody into a world (and it treats you as such). You discover that there's factions. To get better equipment (and advance the plot), you eventually need to join one of those. Combat is also fairly tactical, as it was in Gothic. Enemies visibly (and audibly) enter a threat mode where you can still pull back (or make them come to you), and they have attack patterns which are telegraphed via cues. And you need that, as in particularly early, most of the enemies can either one-shot you or kill you in a few direct hits. Every progression is thus felt, be it stats or gear. Even the mere act of discovering an axe after looting a bandit camp becomes an event. That's how Elex worked even years later, though they lost quite a bit of what made the original form special. In particular as to exploration. Elex was done by a team of no more than ~30 people, and yet they went with a massive world (which is harder to fill and get that hand-crafted feel from). I've been playing Drova for a good chunk of hours and seen most of the overworld (it's not HUGE, just reasonably big, Gothic-like), and exploration is still fun. I even went back to the starting area and found new stuff I'd missed before. No markers, no BS, just you out to try to surive. There's in-universe maps and chalk you can buy to mark them. So many details too. Even the small stuff, like enemy bodies don't despawn, they even rot. NPCs in general are "persistent" and don't despawn. There's a guy you meet early that gives you a few directions, however says he couldn't lead you to a certain place as he'd still have an appointment. I later discovered that you can actually follow his walk all over the map, and "witness" that appointment. That's not something I personally expected out of a 2d pixel game made by a core of 6 people, in 2024 or otherwise. Can see the possible annoyance with the lack of Z-axis though @MrBrown. You can't jump or climb (nor swim). I'd personally wished there were more distinct "classes" and playstyles, but they pretty much seem to lock you into a melee guy with magic and range as support options early. (Magic is said to be more of a thing much much later.) My biggest tripe is stealing though, which seems too easy (so not doing it). -
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Sven_ replied to melkathi's topic in Computer and Console
That's Gothic, baby. Enemies act as barriers where you can go. That was prior to Oblivion ruining everything, basically. That said, I was able to walk very far into the map by sticking onto the road (and fleeing from enemies) in Drova so far. And the full release is a different thing to the teaser I played... in a good way. Turned off the player position on the map and tutorials immediately. Also went with the single autosave format and no starting bonus. Gonna play KCD II next year as "hardcore exploration" as can also. There's surelly gonna be an option again. -
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The teaser to Drova - Forsaken Kin -- a heavily Gothic inspired pixel-art game. That is, Gothic, the game. Not Gothic, Robert Smith's hairdo. According to the devs, that teaser (still available on ich.io) is still from the early stages ("Proof of conept"). Plays quite nice though. Is missing some of the features though that got me intrigued from reviews, such as NPC schedules, people reacting to you walking into their houses at night, drawing weapons, theft, etc. And, of course, this: Our Inspirations Games like “Morrowind” or “Gothic” inspired us to make a game like this ourselves. We think there’s a lack of games that take players seriously and an overload of games that tell players what to do at all times. That's such a valuable promise that this winter only Warhorse seem to be aiming to fulfill with KCD II. Again. -
I hope they put a larger focus on expanding this over more complex cinematics for their next project/s... Spells in general are so underused outside of combat in RPGs. All your mighty fireball usually is able to do is grilling a bunch of goblins.
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Finished The Outer Worlds. Despite being oft rather lukewarm to ok with it, I still experimented some after. I'd advice NOBODY to grind through Monarch (in particular the surface) solo, without companions (there's perks for going solo). That's what I did. Better to take the perk that lets you sprint faster and just run past enemies (no problem, really). Or invest in leadership (+companion perks) and take two companions. Actually, they can roast pretty much everything alone. So this is it. The officially last Cain&Boyarsky game. But also by far the safest. Still somewhat interested in the Whodunnit DLC, seams like a neat, self-contained idea. It's not like there's anything bigger out there ATM. Games are taking forever to develop thanks to the obsession with fidelity and pixel perfection, there's been delays -- and even Obsidian's last game technically was Pentiment. And generally, this SHOULD be 100% my type of game. -
Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2, Thread 2
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Such a stupid production, apparently from the start. If this went the right way, they may have had a real success on their hands, released in the times of BG3, KCDII et all (unless Warhorse bust the launch, they may be the next in line for larger success after Larian and FromSoftware). What's more depressing is that Bloodlines turns 20 in a month. TWENTY. That's also twenty years since the last major horror-themed RPG. You gotta be kidding me. -
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After months off, progressed some further into The Outer Worlds. Monarch is awful. I hope I'm right with this, as the entire planet feels as if it was outsourced to a B-tier MMO developer. The entire surface is basically just asset recycling, copypaste enemy mobs, random loot and crates all over. That's when I stopped. Picked this up again with the intention of just following the main quest. So I did. And even that consisted of the most straight forward fedex jobs in the milky way. At the end of the main questline, you're given the opportunity to respond to an NPC with something along the lines of: "Lemme guess! You wanna make me fetch another three keys for ya, don't ya?" That joke, unfortunatley, is on Obsidian. This is the most mediocre thing I've ever played from this studio. Hopefully the game's going to pick up again. Because prior it was at least decent. Nothing to WhatsApp home about, but decent. Still puzzled how you can make an entire planet of low-quality filler, given that there's but a couple of planets either way -- and the game isn't even aiming to be a (space) epic to begin with. Resource allocation went smoother in both smaller scale Pillars games for sure (and Pentiment either way). -
Yeah, they're naturally priced accordingly. On the desktop front, things have been the same for a decade now give or take. Which is: The fastest desktop APU has about the rendering power of entry level gaming GPUs of ~5 years prior. Currently Ryzen 8700G roughly matching a 2019 GTX 1650. APUs have their place, but they're niche. For a budget build you're far better off with a Ryzen 5500 + RX 6600 -- which both combined cost about the same as the 8700G, whilst offering multiple times the gaming power due to the GPU. Prior to the market exploding, I'd have changed my GPU pretty regularly. Now I'm probably gonna sit on my 1050ti until it rots. The only games I'd currently upgrade for are Stalker 2 + KCD II (and MAYBE Avowed) anyways. For everything else, it's mostly still... ok (not playing many gfx blockbusters anyway). However, I'm not gonna buy a 8GB VRAM GPU in 2025 -- the RX 480 already had 8GB in 2016 (and the GTX 1060 6 as well). A decade later, those aren't gonna last any much longer even in Full-HD. The only exception would be the smaller Intel Battlemage budget model, depending on which. However, a RTX 5060 / RX 8600 with 8GB? Go **** yerselves. I'd rather spend big and build an altogether new proper gaming PC than doing that -- which I haven't done in more than 20 years. PC gaming as such had been pretty inexpensive for a very long time -- even a GeForce 4 ti I could get a year after launch in 2003 for below 100 bucks, which was less than half of what it launched for ~15 months earlier.
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So I hear there's some uproar regarding choices carrying over from older games into Dragon Age: The Veilguard. Or rather not carrying over. This is so big it has even reached Sports Illustrated now. For realz. Let me tell you: Bunch of whiny, entitled and spoiled Millenials and Zoomers! Imagine the pain of all us old farts shutting up Imoen forever the moment she shows up after Gorion gets killed by Sarevok. Giving Khalid&Jaheira the hard pass. Never clicking on the random NPC that may have been our Minsc in Nashkel. Finishing the job with a party consisting of purely evil aligned sons of 'em b*tches... ...and then booting up Baldur's Gate 2.
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Sven_ replied to melkathi's topic in Computer and Console
Solasta: Palace Of Ice (DLC). Bit easy again, will ramp up difficulty. Still reminds me of oldschool D&D romps. No bull****, just a simple scenario, off ya go. Also maybe this time I'm pulling it through: Baldur's Gate (Enhanced). Never finished the Enhanced so far. The original is of course a classic from ye olde Interplay catalogue. -
From Pillars to Avowed tl;dw edition.
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BG3 back in the Steam top 3 top sellers. KCD II being close to the top ten also, despite being half a year away still. If a properly scaled and smoothly produced Bloodlines 2 were around, it could have completed a trilogy of possible big budget RPG incline. But you know... Meanwhile, Veilguard is somewhere sandwiched in between Roboquest and Tavern Manager Simulator. And Avowed, well... that doesn't have the brand recognition, being based in that universe of that pirate CRPG noboy's played but me. That's but Steam but hear me out. I wonder if analysts are gonna realize that these action-adventure-RPG type of power fantasies may all compete for roughly the same audience. After all, every other action/adventure type of game has been incorporating RPG elements since forever. Upgrading, looting and leveling has proven to be quite addictive, after all. And even Brian Bloody Fargo has been on record of saying that Red Dead Redemption 2 had been his favourite RPG of the past a thousand years or so. And Veilguard doesn't even seem to sport much in terms of dialogue options and expression (certainly not in what was shown). Unlike Avowed, it's a Dragon Age game though, so that's something. Else, if it wouldn't be, I'd take the guess this would turn limited heads. Both Avowed and Veilguard draw finite buzz outside of their respective fanbases as is. Due to the lack of major marketing effort else, a German podcast run by a former Gamestar editor even speculated that EA may have internally downgraded Veilguard. In the sense of: "Better not blow any more major money on this, or else we may never recoup / make a good chunk of profit." The game wasn't even present at Gamescom, after all. I'm sure it'll do reasonably. Avowed I'm not so sure yet. Both look pretty "mid" to me so far (really liked Pentiment, but obviously completely different type of project). Still, KCD II. Already released to positive reviews (so heavily inspired by MImimi, they promoted it themselves on their social media).
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Well, it's not gonna release on Xbox One anymore, I think? Speaking of which, for a game that's so close to release... I personally still have no idea what it's actually like. Except that it's gonna be another action RPG power fantasy set in the same universe as that piratey CRPG nobody has ever played. Except me. Btw, if companies can learn something from Larian, it's that they're good salesmen. And I don't mean that in an ironic way. The entire tagline of their campaign was, without spelling it out: "Do whatever silly you like. And share it for all world to see." Be that casting fireballs into goblins with your friends. Stacking crates to get into places we never imagined you to. Or... getting humped by a bear. Which all naturally fit nicely into that whole tabletop/D&D thing. (Anybody simply copying that bear stunt would completely miss the context of it all).