Atheosis

From longtime Magic the Gathering design czar Mark Rosewater: Game design != life design, therefore your argument is invalid. A CCG designer is not an authority on RPG design, so I'd actually say your argument is the one that's invalid. I actually think the biggest issue with PoE's attributes is that they tried to make a system that didn't have dump stats. In trying to fix a problem that didn't actually exist they only made a screwy system that doesn't make much sense.

I've never understood what the big deal is with dump stats. Real life has dump stats depending on what your line of work is.

DA:O was crap.

That is a strange reason to stop playing...

Old is a relative term.

Clearly you have never been to Battle.net I have. I stand by my statement though since I see PoE as better than anything Blizzard has made over the past decade.

I feel that this game may be the most nit-picked game I've ever seen...

In other words it's pretty good if you don't nit-pick it?

I firmly believe what they need to start with is bounties and other Caed Nua xp rewards. If they cut those by 70-80% they address a huge part of the problem rather easily.

Agree 100%. Well said.

LOL. New to the Obsidian Forums I see. What you're seeing with people being negative to the game isn't something new. There have been people critical of the design decisions over the last two years including myself. Oh btw, welcome to the Obsidian forums. Get used to it. Yeah, but I'm not new to forums in general. This particular forum is full of a lot of grognards who need help though.

Poor ROI Hahah, oh man. How old are you? A bit of negativity on one forum and one thread of a different forum isn't going to do squat, plus I've already given the game a lot of positive exposure over the last two years, particularly around the release date with my character creation videos and contribution to the IE mod. If I wanted to truly be 'harmful' (in a laughable way) I would remove my videos from the internet. Why would I bother doing that? The better question is how old are you? An adult would accept that things didn't work out the way they wanted and would get over it.

There is a way to do it yourself: http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/76717-how-to-change-experience-per-level-requirement/?hl=%2Bexperience+%2Bgain&do=findComment&comment=1649230

lol I'm pretty sure that people discussing a negative review on these forums won't affect PoE sales at all. Obsidian/Paradox have their own marketing machine, they don't need us (customers/fans) to self-censor our critical discussions in order for them to succeed financially. What marketing? PoE has virtually none from what I've seen.

For what it's worth, general notion from three RPG dedicated boards I poke in on somewhat regular basis is that BG fetishists hate PoE; BG veterans find it to be kinda okay but requiring loads of additional work to shine; people having vague idea of BG either like it very much or hate it just as much. I don't claim that it's statisitically representative, but notion stands. Edit: typos Your first mistake was relying on message boards to get any sense of what people in general think.

You fancy yourself an authority figure.... spouting orders to people, demanding that they stop posting and act more like you. How silly. Hey Faux Moderator, I have a question. This thread reached the 500 post count limit quite a while ago. Why haven't closed it yet? Oh, that's right. I forgot, you're not a f*cking moderator. That's why. Nah, just giving advice. Seriously, things in life don't turn out the way you want much of the time. You can whine and bitch about it to no avail or you can move on with your life. And to be clear I have no problem with people not liking the game, or even hating the game, but it's downright ridiculous to spam its forums with the same negativity over and over again.

You see the irony in this post yes? Oh and the reason is because I see you and others trying to poison the PoE well, actively trying to hurt its sales as far as I can tell, and I refuse to let you people have your little echo chamber of negativity.

Fixed that for you. Yes because it echoes your own hyper-negative views that you want to discuss ad nauseum for some reason.

This is a lie. His posts consume you and drive your emotions. And everyone here sees that. If you want to believe that I can't stop you, but I seriously don't even read his posts most the time because I already know what they say. It's kind of sad really. All the people who can't enjoy this game for whatever reason are some rather sad and bitter people as far as I can tell. And why they continue to post here is beyond me.

How am I trying to ruin the game for everyone else? I'm posting in this thread only, and on the RPGCodex. I am not trying to influence the game mechanics or balance in any way. Nor am I producing any anti-PE content elsewhere on the web. As to why I am posting, well at the moment I don't have too much else to do and I'm pretty mad about how the game turned out. And again I say to you get over it. I've had games that I had high hopes for that didn't turn out the way I wanted them to. The difference is that I didn't go on those game's forums and spam it with pointless negativity day after day. The game is never going to be what you wanted it to be. Let it go.

I don't really pay much attention to the things you post because all you do is gripe and whine, so I really have no idea if you specifically have made lots of references to BG2 and how this game should be more like that one. Others have made such posts though. A lot of them in fact. As far as you go, I think you should just go find a game that you actually like, play that, and stop trying to ruin PoE for everyone else. It's not healthy man. Man, Sensuki has made countless contributions to the development of this game throughout the past two years. You should give him more respect than you do now. That said, looking at the overall tone of your posts in these and other sub forums you're not here to make a positive contribution. If you are, you might want to adjust your tone of speech in order for other people to take your message seriously. I have no respect for someone who only wants to post negative garbage over and over on the PoE forums because his particular vision of the game wasn't realized.

Totally pointless thread. Maybe use it in your own pen and paper game because it's never going to be used in PoE...

Hey Atheosis, move the **** on already. Everybody can state their opinion and some people don't enjoy this game. Get over it. Sure, and Sensuki has stated his negative enough times already. I sure wouldn't be posting constantly on the forums of a game I hate, but then I guess I'm just not that messed up in the head...

I don't really pay much attention to the things you post because all you do is gripe and whine, so I really have no idea if you specifically have made lots of references to BG2 and how this game should be more like that one. Others have made such posts though. A lot of them in fact. As far as you go, I think you should just go find a game that you actually like, play that, and stop trying to ruin PoE for everyone else. It's not healthy man.

Then why not say that instead of, no it's not perfect. Because I think from their perspective BG2 was a perfect game. Never underestimate the power of nostalgia.