LadyCrimson

Atton's #1 but at this point I'm almost equally enamoured of Disciple, although in a different way. Yin and yang maybe. I don't understand why people think he looks so old. In his mid to late 30's maybe. Trust me...that's not that 'old'. Funny too, because I think Atton is supposed to be older than Disciple. At least, he sure calls him 'kid' a lot in that cut dialogue. Guess Atton's got a baby-face. :D

Definitely a different experience than the Dark path. Especially in regards to 'saving' Onderon - not as much to do, felt like - it was more fun to be evil for that quest, IMO. But Light was much easier to maintain a constant Mastery - it never dropped once I got it, and I didn't sacrifice much to keep it so. The ending is even less satisfying to me as Light than Dark, for some reason. Although you do get the bit with Mira (which I didn't know about), which is more than you get if Dark - but of course that emphasized the incompleteness of the cut story even more, to me. And I disliked what Kreia has to say about Atton on the Light future dialogue -" nothing to offer me!" Bah! He has plenty to offer............. But her bits about Disciple were more pleasant to the ears... So to sum up - generally I find the Dark side more entertaining to play. But I did like the dynamics of my fave NPC's better on Light so I'll probably have to play Light again. Oh yeah...and I liked being Mira during the confrontation between her and Hanhar on Nal Shadda a lot more. But then she languished in the Hawk, till the very end, where I had to level her up 20 levels at once while Hanhar was paused in mid-kick.

Yeah...you can have them help you, too, if you run around the ship so Visa's chases you. It's quite amusing.

In the Onderon palace, Master Kavar apparently couldn't kill the 2nd of the two soldiers that he runs up to when you reach the Queen. The soldier, instead of dropping in 2 hits like he's supposed to, achieved immortality by staying at 1HP forever. The cutscene returned control of the camera to me, and Kavar was still Power-striking away at the guy - and continued to do so for long minutes - while I went out to smoke a cancer-stick and get a soda. When I returned, he was still at it, and continued even after I moved forwad to trigger the Queen's swordplay cutscene (I could hear his saber buzzing behind me) and during my defeating of...er...whatever the Queen's enemy name is. He did finally break off, to talk to me, however - and that soldier still stood, in the 'I'm hurt bad' position. Some 'Master', huh? Can't even kill a lowly meatbag.

Perhaps Disciple does something when he goes back to Khoona on Dantoonie, during your defense/non-defense of the place, if you're male? And I never got that scene w/Atton reporting etc. either. Maybe you need to have low influence w/Disciple & high w/Atton to get it. (and I always enter/reenter to trigger scenes...)

Yes, she can't read the whole future...if at all...more likely she's just reading his mind (or spirit, or whatever) and knows what his true motivations/intentions are or something, and in her eyes, it equals betrayer...for whatever reason.

Kreia calls him that during one of the cutscenes where she's running around tormenting Disciple on the ship.

My guesses/thoughts on the Betrayer thing: 1) The Jedi, since he quit them after the Exile decided to go to war - making the title more of a philosphical thing. 2) Of the Exile - there's some dialogue bits in the folders that indicate he's caught sending messages to the Rebublic while on the EbonHawk - I don't know if you get these or not, ever - maybe they've been cut, like so many others were. In that case, 'betrayer' might be a reference to something he was supposed to do in the game that isn't there anymore - and Kreia knows the future, so calls him that.

The ending wasn't satisfying...that's all. I don't think it 'sucked' tho. Just left too many things too ambiguous or plain forgotten. What I mostly disliked about the endgame however, is

@ witchzenka - that sounds like a good way to view Disciples verbal mood. I've now replayed Dxun temple & skyramp 4 times... think doing it again to see reactions of other NPC's will have to wait. Side note: For some reason when my party leader got DSP points for the dark side 'patches' and for being tempted, it didn't lower my Exile's (or the party leaders) Light side Mastery at all. Still had the bonus. Seems...odd? And I like being able to give another character affect mind, if they level up during that errand. Not they have any use for it. :D

Yeah, that's a glitch that's been known a while. Course, since I never feel like playing as a male, I'll never see it.

Or do the mine exploit until you go blind from staring at 15 mines stacked on top of each other.

In terms of the dancer quest... And yes, there's quests that can result in the reward of a lightsaber, and those seem consistent - but in terms of 'how many total can you get in one game' - that's not consistent, seemingly.

Well I just tried it - she never changes outer appearance, and when I put on her original clothes it just looks like I have 'clothes' on - not a robe. Dunno.

Do you mean she had them phsycially - ie it duped the robe - or that she isn't in her underwear/her outer appearance doesn't chage....she's never in her underwear even if she has no clothes/armor on, because she's special...or something.

How do you see your FPS in this game? A 3rd party program? I have a pretty powerful computer, but an older 64MB GeF4-ti4200 card (yes yes I know...) and in terms of feel, the game runs fine 90% of the time - but with the usual occasional lagginess in certain areas. I'd be curious to see my FPS in those areas.

Oh...sorry...it's the frame buffer effects I was thinking of, in the graphics advanced menu. :D frame buffer...vertex buffer...hey, they both have 'buffer' in them....har.

IIRC, that's what gives a lot of the 'cool' graphic effects such as the speed spell blur, and the blurry borders when Kreia 'mindspeaks' to you, and other such things. It's nothing amazing or terribly missed, but it does add to the game atmosphere. And looks pretty.

Kreia calls everyone a betrayer, I swear.

I didn't notice this to occur in my game, and I did use the speed. But my force points didn't regen at all, anywhere, in there. (and I didn't have Drain Force at the time)

I replayed it, only this time I sent Atton as leader, and made him 'resist' - he also says he learned something, but gives a better answer when you ask him what. I also love Atton's response if you tell him you single-handedly saved Onderon. haha

Back on topic...kind of. So, if you're Dark and make Disciple leader of the Dxum tomb run, and then force him to revel in the DS, he later has a 'I failed you' dialogue, which in itself seems complete. But if you're Light and he succeeds at staving off the DS influence, then later he tells you that he 'learned something' - and if you ask him what he learned, he says "It's not important, perhaps we will discuss it at another time." Obviously...I'm wondering...does he ever discuss it at another time? Because so far, he hasn't .... and I'm on Telos for the Ravenger run. Edit - makes me wonder if there was more to it, and when they cut stuff from the game they replaced it with that line to close it off...

Teeheehee....that's my thoughts exactly.

Forcing Disciple to revel in the dark side on Dxun...he reacts so depressed afterwards when the party reunites, I felt terrible. Edit - all the goodies react fairly badly to that, actually

The fun of the bad guys having more HP's when your items do not improve? Did someone tell you it was worth it, or something? Some people just like to max levels/anything on principle, tho. You might even say, some are obsessed with it.