Hildegard

Nowhere does that article say they didn't know. Pakistan's protesting the airstrike because it may have resulted in civilian casualties and missed al-Quaida's #2 man. "While this act is highly condemnable, we have for a long time been striving to rid all our tribal areas of foreign intruders who have been responsible for all the violence and misery in the region. This situation has to be brought to an end." -Sheikh Rashid Ahmed, Pakistan's information minister <{POST_SNAPBACK}> When I was watching an interview with a Pakistani intelligence officer on CNN he said they weren't notified at all, I'll start searching the link. Also the article doesn't say they did know, but maybe that would be too embarrassing for the Pakistani goverment in the eyes of her ppl which would result in even more violent backclash from both the opposition and the ppl. And for your quote from the article - yes sure Mothie with those 18 civilians dead including five women and five children I guess Pakistan and the US are know much safer thanks to the good old CIA

Bullsh*t they didn't know at all, but I guess the CIA has the 'right' to attack anyday anywhere she sees fit, talk about arrogance....

First of all the insurgency is not a homogeneous thing so one can adress it as a single entity, it's a much more complex issue - the main part of the insurgency make the radical Sunni groups followed by a number of foreign fighters including Al Qaida, some Shiite radical groups and leftovers of the Baath party - and these are not all. Do many of the insurgent kill civilians? Yes. My view is they target civilians not because they don't have anything else to do, they do it for the sole purpose of stirring up violence and hostility amongst ethnical and religious groups in order to throw the entire country into a civil war in which they see their opportunity to overthrow the current Iraqi goverment they see as a US puppet and to ultimately create some sort of an Islamic state. But also there are Iraqi insurgents that only engage US troops, not civilians, using guerilla warfare and I admire those ppl for having the guts to stand up against the strongest military in the world and I wish them all the best in their fight against an occupying force that has no justification for what they've done and what hardship they brought upon their country which made life in Iraq even worse then during Saddam era, but hey they have 'democracy' now ) so I guess in the eyes of the west it's 'OK'. Another interesting thing - I guess insurgents finnaly aquired ground to air missiles

I'm not weepy at all, the Balkans are known for everything but civility - I agree with that, too many many wars have been waged here for it to be known for civility or anything similar to that. If you want to generalize I'll be the first to tell you that, Croatians for an example, are 'only' good as warriors and soldiers - must be because we were in almost every war in Europe in the last 1300 years, heck my surname was forged in battle in the 17th century....I wish this wasn't so and I can only hope it won't be in the future - which I highly doubt. Yes they aren't the only ones capable but if you ran a competition on this matter those three countries would sure as hell be runners up in recent history.

Argue with facts, not personal attacks. If you're just going to flame people you're better off not contributing. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Look who's talking.....

He is also said to have planned to have a statue of Hitler constructed in Kampala. The irony....

It's Idi Amin. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> How do you feel about that? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> A butcher trained by UK and Israel, so what's new really.....

.....fool.....

There is only one true football.

If this is a thread where I can blow off steam when it comes to sports results then: You just had to loose you damn frikin no good miserable Deportivo La Coruna.....!!!!!$#%#/&$ :angry: :angry: :angry: P.S. Alaves as well....

You took out three houses with 18 civilians - no Zawahiri in neither of them. The CIA launched an attack on Pakistani soil without even consulting the Pakistani leadership, but I guess with Bush's doctrine the CIA is allowed to take out anybody anywhere. Flame at Al Qaida and terrorists all you want but the US in the last 60 years or so has done more harm and suffering upon the ppl of the world more then any terrorists ever will.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Double LOL.

It doesn't say where was the supposed capture taken place, Baghdad or elsewhere? Juba isn't that careless that he who would come close to 75 -100 metres, he takes his shots always from a distance of 175-200 metres. From the Jaisha brigades sniper videos you can see and hear there is always two of them, they use the Dragunov sniper rifle and they have a tendency of coming far too close to their targets so it is my guess it was one of theirs who got captured, Juba works alone when he shoots.

You know why I think Juba isn't Iraqi.....when you closely watch the video you'll notice the footage isn't and couldn't have been taken by another person standing next to the sniper, it was taken by the sniper himself while shooting, how? It is well known that an Israel defense company called Rafael produces things like this: Now that's a semi-automatic assault rifle not a sniper, so one would say Juba couldn't have used that. But if you look at the video, experts say Juba does his shooting from a distance no more larger then 200 metres and with a sophisticated rifle like that a trained individual can do it without a problem. The thing is there is no autopsy report published so we can learn what type of ammo or rifle he uses. If he used the Dragunov sniper rifle why risk coming so close to his targets when he can take a perfect shot from 600 metres away with the Dragunov when he's so good, or is it because he uses an assault rifle with 4X zoom and wants to come closer so he can shoot a better video for propaganda and other purposes? Anyways if Juba uses that rifle he's no ordinary insurgent - he's no Iraqi, my view Juba in Baghdad is either a merc or some combat junkie dog of war.

Ha...ha? Did you really just write that? As stated previously, this is ancient history. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> So what because it's an old story - to some fresh new - we can't discuss it because to you it's acient history?

That's not entirely true. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If there was a military strike in the near future it would have to be conducted by airpower only, CENTCOM doesn't have the strength or power to maintain stability in Iraq and in the same time launch a serious ground attack on Iran - or would the American ppl prefer to be drafted?

UPDATE: Ayman al-Zawahiri killed in airstrike ? In that airstrike eight men, five women and five children died when three homes were targeted in a Pakistani village - but hey like the CIA gives a sh*t....

You're so gonna eat my 7.62mm friends.....

That I think you're definitely right "

I trained Football one year, Tennis one year, Karate for 8 months and finnaly Rowing five years, I haven't been training anything for 18 months now.....and I didn't do any at the same time, we aren't all sport freaks like you DL Yes thank you, I'm asking because usual when I meet ppl that train wrestling they're relatively smaller but very muscalure. When I started training rowing I was 12 and I was all chubby and clumsy, now I'm 1.91 meters (6.26 feet) tall and I weigh 94 kilos (207 pounds) and totaly athletic and very satisfied.

By which time he'll have trained a dozen people to replace him. Unless 'he' already is a dozen people, which wouldn't surprise me. So the circus moves on to Iran, and Iraq (like Afghanistan before it) fades from the headlines. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I believe 'Juba' - the sniper that took out more then 50 US soldiers in Southern Baghdad is one man. But the incident with four US snipers being all taken out with headshots in Ramadi is a work of several insurgent snipers, nobody alone is that good. It could of been the Jaish Al Mujahideen Brigade that killed those snipers, they are also very well known for their extensive sniper activity....I have their videos as well "

My Dad worked in IBM for 6 years in Johannesburg and was so succesfull he made it to senior management in their South African subsidiary, but then the pricks in the US decided to move business elsewhere so he had to choose between going to work in either London or Riyad, he decided to quit and move all of us back home. Good choice dad

Yeah, we are. The weight classes range from 103-275 pounds. I currently qualify for the 145 pound weight class, but I'm trying to make it down to the 140 pound class. One of the reasons being that the other guy in my weight class is an absolute stud who's been at the sport for a lot longer than I have. At the 140 pound class I'll have a much better chance at starting. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I wanna know how is height relevant in wrestling combined with weight?

Mothie are you separated in weight categories on your trainings or not, and if so which one do you belong to?