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It should be updating soon. My orders page on amazon has changed it to "shipping today". Aww man now you have me slightly freaking out as mine still is the same as its been for weeks lol. Update and take my money damn you amazon.

And now my attention shifts to amazon and my strategy guide that has a guaranteed delivery date of Thursday the 26th, but still hasn't had any update to the shipping process. Still says they received my order a couple weeks ago but they haven't begun to process it and get it ready for shipping. I have not been charged yet either, which is standard though for amazon pre orders they do not charge your account until the item is shipped. So much drama for one game jeez haven't had this happen before for a game I don't think ever. Cannot wait for Thursday when it all comes together and I'm playing with my *if needed* strategy guide. Def dont really want to actually use it for hints, walk throughs or maps on the first run.

Wish you luck man, most the time they seem to give the keys up in a good manner of time but I have had two experiences with them where I didn't get my key early enough to preload the game and a bit late, but that was rare! I have had good luck with green man and preloading. I would expect you to get a key tomorrow. Thats dependent on them getting the keys of course. Yeah this is my first preorder with GMG, but have bought a few things from there (normally I buy from there if I'm getting a game at a time that isn't during a steam sale because of the 20%-25% off vouchers they always have) and have always had a good experience with them so my fingers are crossed. They do have a section on the site that talks about pre loading so I should be good to go unless the pre load is only for backers and they aren't releasing steam keys to all steam pre orders. Again, it's only a couple hours so if it doesn't happen oh well not a huge deal.

Steam/Valve is located in Seattle WA USA(I think its Seattle, i know they are west coast PST somewhere) and things almost always become available when they update everyday at 10am PST. Edit: Correction, they are actually located right across the sound in Bellevue WA. Oh well i was close.

Now to pray Green Man Gaming is on top of it and releases their steam keys at some point before release. Wont be too awful as i have a great internet speed, but man it would be good to get going those couple hours sooner. I wonder if the manual will become available upon entering in your key for the preload or if everything is encrypted until release.

They already have our money and its 2 freaking days away. The streamers and youtube people got copies to hopefully build interest for people who haven't bought the game yet so hopefully they do and there can hopefully be a Pillars of Eternity 2 and other games like this and PoE isn't just a one and done. Man the me first entitlement mmm don't like it.

Is this something modders can work on instead? I was excited that Divinity OS had multiplayer and was trying to get a friend to get the game so we could co-op but after starting the game and playing through it I am so glad that didn't happen. Syncing up our schedules to play a 70+ hour RPG would have been a nightmare and pissed me off something fierce when I would of had a few hours to play only to be shut down because my partner couldn't. More options and ways to play a game are never bad though, so again is this something that modders can maybe figure out and implement?

So sad I missed the kickstarter, but ecstatic about the whole crowd funding thing allowing us and the Devs to give the middle finger to the publishers and corporate suits who know nothing about games other than how much money they can bring in. The industry had started to become soooo stale with the same games coming out, sequels and just dumb downed versions of games to appeal to the most people as possible in order to make the most sales. Just round after round of the same safe games with a new number after the title or a "new IP" that rehashed 90 percent of what we already have been playing with 10% new ideas. Kickstarter and crowdfunding has allowed for the niche market games to come back which has been so great. Obviously there are some bad parts that come along with it, but if you just take the time to do a little research on a project or are an older gamer and have played some of the games from these Devs in the past its easy to know which projects to fund and which ones not to fund. Congrats to the team, looking forward to Thursday... Hell have been looking forward to Thursday for awhile. Been checking green man gaming every hour today to see if ill get my steam key for a preload. Seems I probably won't but I guess another couple hours won't kill me after 2 years of waiting. Hopefully my hardback strategy guide will arrive early on Thursday so I can just look at that while the game downloads. Congrats again, I won't miss the next kickstarter project. As 34 year old gamer, seeing the rebirth of all these CRPGs, HD side scrollers, space sims and point and click adventure games is just a dream come true in a market dominated by FPS and MMOs trying to capture what WoW did.

I must say as someone that has purposely avoided anything about PoE (to avoid being over hyped and nothing to do about it for a year or so) I let the game just slip off my radar. But, right around a week ago I just couldn't help myself and started looking at information and this is the first ive seen about the no XP for fighting. At first I was stunned, but after my knee jerk reaction of WTH I kind of like the decision. This will allow me to play in a way I never really play and look to solve quests/puzzles/situations differently. I always choose to fight because I didn't want to miss out on the XP. With the way it is setup, I can now try and resolve situations through dialog/conversation tree, sneaking by and other means. I actually do not mind the decision now and if I have to fight or just want to, hopefully ill get good loot drops. Just the thought of missing out on some rare loot from not fighting mobs will probably have me fighting anyways just like always. But yeah, I don't really mind the decision at all because to me it allows for a more dynamic play through rather than a smash my way through all the mobs game like I normally do. Really looking forward to this game and the 500 page hardback strategy guide due to arrive on Thursday as well.

Project Zomboid. Was already having a blast and just dumped on a bunch of mods and new map areas making an excellent game even better. Guess I will be able to continue to hold off on Wasteland 2 until the game of the year edition comes out. Was going to finally play WL2 to warm up for Pillars but I'm all in on Project Zomboid at the moment which is great and filling my spare time very nicely.

This isnt entirely true as The VIP section of Green Man Gaming has discounts on all 3 editions of the pre order. Hero edition is $33.74, Champion Edition is $44.99 and the Royal edition is $67.49. Those have been the prices for at least a week as well. Before this recent discount on GMG you are right though, best I had really seen anywhere was 10% off during Steam Sales I think.

Can't say specifically what they will change but they have talked about things like individual stealth instead of party stealth.Yeah this is def a major bummer. I have wanted to play Wasteland 2 for the longest time and it has just been sitting in my steam collection because of all the bugs and not completely polished I heard at release. Well.. A few weeks ago they released another huge patch fixing tons or bugs so I finally was getting ready to fire it up and...... Wasteland 2 game of the year announced with a move to a better engine and tweaks to gameplay people had issues with. Now I'm stuck on the fence again wondering if I want to wait another few months for this next round of updates/polish/patching or just play the freaking game which I have wanted to play for quite some time . With all the great games that keep releasing along with my love for sandbox games, which go on forever because they have no true ending, and also games like Path of Exile which also can be played for years and years.... I really only have time to play these types of RPGs once. Plus, once I know the story and puzzles with an RPG that actually has an end game and conclusion, those things also greatly impact my desire to play through RPGs like that more than once because again... My time for gaming is limited. It drives me nuts because I feel like ill get a better experience waiting for the the updated Wasteland 2 but man I will have waited pretty much one year after release for a game I wanted to play on release day. I also waited a couple months to play Divinity Original Sin but apparently did not wait long enough because they ended up adding new companions and stuff to that game as well. It's sort of frustrating honestly but what can you/I do? Complain about developers supporting and bettering their game after release? Hell no.

When you say "fairly significant changes over the first few months" what exactly do you mean? More companions added? Additional dungeons? Combat mechanic tweaks? Or just your standard bug fixes?

Thats exactly how i feel. Id like to have the actual book. I have an Ipad mini which is super handy to go with playing games and looking up information if needed, having the map up and able to look at... But with PoE (Feel really weird using that since i have also been playing Path of Exile for quite some time) id rather get the actual hardback guide to show my support so hopefully the non gamer suits see there is a lot of interest for games like this.

I ordered my Champion edition off of Green Man Gaming so i really hope they activate and post the key to my account a day or two early so i can utilize the pre load. I guess if it doesnt happen that kind of sucks but it is not the end of the world and i have a fast internet connection so i wouldnt lose too much time. I hope. Even with the release being over a week away, i still check my GMG account to see if the key is posted a few times a day lol. On my games page next to Pillars of Eternity, it does say key not available until game release so unfortunately im expecting not being able to pre load so it will be a nice surprise if i am able to.

Well technically you already can upgrade on steam. But its mainly for if you have the Hero edition you can upgrade to the other two editions. Im good though id rather have the actual hardback copies of the other items rather than pdfs. Thanks for responding. Also i can type a lot because i type really fast lol.

Well I guess no harm no foul because I did not see your offer so not sure what forum guidelines you violated but thanks for trying and whatever you had to edit anyways lol. What I do see is that amazon and Barnes & Noble have the guide for around $28 BUT there is no in store pickup option. That's an obvious for amazon but I have a Barnes & Noble near me so not quite sure why I can't pre order now and pick it up on the 26th. I live up in Lake Tahoe so Barnes & Noble and Gamestop are about a 40 minute drive to Reno or Carson City so id much rather pre order online now and pickup the 26th. Of course GameStop has is for pre order online and in store pickup (just about as close to me as the Barnes & Noble) but its $39.99. I wonder if they do price match? I think I'd rather pre order the guide and go pick it up on the 26th so I actually have it when I'm launching the game rather than waiting a day or two for it arrive via amazon. Hmmm decisions decisions. This will be the first strategy guide I have purchased in decades (I think Final Fantasy 11 and the first World of Warcraft Guide are the last two strategy guides I have purchased way back in 2004) but again I'd rather show support to the Devs and purchase anything Pillars of Eternity related rather than just pull up gamefaqs or google any questions I might have.

Well it makes it easier not to freak out over it considering they quadrupled the money they were asking for. It would have been nice to get the nice backer extras.... But oh well next time ill be ready. Even though I probably won't even use the strategy guide, it just looks like such a nice package and if I do get stuck or need a nudge in the right direction id much rather refer to that awesome looking guide than the Internet or the .pdf file but that is just me.

Yeah and that's the problem, some Devs & Companies have just jumped on the kickstarter train just to take advantage of the trend and have huge project mismanagement so they run out of funding well short of a finished game. While I love the kickstarter/crowd funding thing because it allows Devs to make the games they want to make and "niche" games that the huge corporations and publishers don't think there is much interest in, it's really easy for people to take advantage of the process. But for the devs with the experience and that have their heads on straight..... It also allows the devs to create the projects they have A LOT of passion for and its not just some game they are doing to bring home a paycheck which i feel also adds to the overall quality of the game. This is why I will only back the Devs that I know have created quality games that I have enjoyed in the past and do some research before backing. The Black Isle guys will always get my money from here on out though unless Pillars of Eternity is just a flop of a game which I seriously doubt. I'm seriously bummed I missed the initial funding period for project eternity as I would have easily signed up for one of the backer tiers between $100-$200. The only thing I don't really like is the alpha and beta rewards. While some games (I'm a huge sucker for the zombie survival sandboxes so I like alpha access for those) it's ok, a game like PoE or Wasteland 2 you only get the story and puzzles once so I wouldn't want to burn out my excitement for the game playing unfinished/unpolished chunks of the game and would want to go into those games completely fresh. So yeah I think ill end up staying with my Champion Edition and just order the hardback strategy guide off of amazon although I wish I could just order it directly from this site. Ill just have to keep my eyes open and back the next project they have if they use crowdfunding. Again, this is all why I gave Chris Roberts and Star Citizen around $400. Am I a bit worried that the scope of Star Citizen is absolutely huge and it would be one hell of an incredible feat for them to pull off.... DEFINITELY!!!! But I grew up loving Chris Roberts games and I'm more than willing to donate to him and his team in order to help him create his dream project while allowing him and his team the ability to keep Corporate greed and money being the bottom line completely out of the project. If the Black Isle guys next project has some massive scope and ideas and they went for crowd funding to keep away the suits.... I'd throw a bunch of money at these guys too. Thank you everyone for reading my walls of text.... As I said before as a 34 year old who is married and locked into a job, the rebirth of all these old school games I played during my youth by basically the same Dev teams with modern graphics and engines is just an absolute dream come true and I'm just excited and rambling so thanks for allowing me to share my thoughts here. Here's to a huge and successful launch for Pillars of Eternity that allows for expansions, sequels and new IPs from the team while allowing them to stay free from the suits and the dumbing down of their games to appeal to the biggest audience for max profits. HERE HERE!!!! Oh and one more thing... If any of you Devs have a spare hardback strategy guide laying around the office, send me a PM. I'd rather you all and Prima get the entire cut of my purchase over amazon or gamespot getting a cut of the profits. Ok, that does it for my wall of text posts, my posts will be shorter from here on out. Thanks for having me here and I promise to keep the epic worded posts down . Cannot believe we are only 12 days away!

Hmm that is actually not a bad idea, but I think I'm just going to stick with the Championship edition and purchase the hardback strategy guide.

Thank you both sooo much for taking the time to answer my questions even though I'm sure you have seen them asked a bunch of times. I never saw the page that allows for the $9.99 strategy guide digital download. However, I've been looking forward to this game soooo much and since you cannot really seem to order the collectors edition hardback book from obsidian themselves (when you try to buy it offers you to go to amazon or gamespot) I will probably just order the hardback version off amazon. So thanks again for being patient, not flaming me or talking down to me telling me to look around the forums/Internet and just answering with the information I needed. That hardback edition just looks sooo amazing and I want to help add contributing buying Pillars of Eternity related stuff so hopefully people take notice that there is still a high demand for quality games from this genre and game Devs so we can hopefully get more of them down the road... Without corporate or publisher interference compromising the main vision of the game or rushing it out the door sooner than the game is ready. I'm actually glad there are no romance options in this game because I'm sure the writers would have an idea or two... But then would have to shoe horn other romance options into the story just to try and include everyone's preference that just end up turning out as cheap additional story lines that don't make much sense and you as the player know they are just there to avoid any sort of backlash. Now I just have to hope that my hardcover Strategy Guide along with steam product Pillars of Eternity game code arrives into my Green Man Gaming Account a day or two before March 26th so I can get the game pre loaded and ready for the massive adventure the second It goes live. Also hope my amazon order for the Hardcover Collectors Edition Guide Arrives a day or two early and def no later than March 26th. I'm really sorry everyone, having grown up playing these CRPGs and having a wife now so it's ok for me to stay home and no life a video game for a couple weeks has me so damn excited to dive head first into Pillars of Eternity while giving as much financial support as I can. I feel a little terrible buying the Champion Edition off the VIP section of Green Man Gaming and not buying directly off this website so the Devs got the majority of my money, but getting the Champion Edition at the price of the Hero Edition was just too much to pass up and my wife controls our money and my allotment for PC games isn't all that much per month. That's why I was hoping I could have gotten the hardcover collectors edition of the strategy guide straight from this site but its only amazon and GameStop... And I'm def not giving gamespot a single penny of my money. So I hope the Devs get a decent portion of the strategy guide sales that amazon gets. Wow... Sorry for the rambling post... It's just as you can tell I'm very excited for this game. One of my most anticipated games of recent memory. At least this kickstarter brought my attention to what exactly kickstarter is and I was able to pledge for Torment: Tides of Numenera and also support and drop close to $400 on Star Citizen (Got a F7A Hornet and Constellation ship during the original crowd funding campaign on the RSI website) I really am a true believer that this sort or crowd funding is reviving the gaming industry. Of course some kickstarted games have failed and/or not lived up to expectations.... But this group of Devs that have made solid games that I have spent 100s of hours on in the past I have no problem contributing more than a retail box copy cost of a triple a game because I know they are creating the project THEY want to create without much interference and have earned their chance to create the GAME they want... Not some junky dumbed down for the mass public having the shots called By businessmen who care more about profits than the actual quality of the game. It's why I gave $400 to Chris Roberts. Growing up playing Wing Commander and Privateer for many many hours.... I have zero issues helping fund his project in order to help him create his dream project. Is star citizen a very very ambitious project that might not deliver???? Of course. But, to Achieve big things you must be able to dream big and if any man could pull off a massive space sim like Star Citizen.. It would be Chris Roberts so personally I feel it's worth taking the risk to allow him the ability and best chance to create the game of his dreams. I really think indie type projects like Pillars of Eternity, Wasteland 2, Divinity Original Sin, Torment: Tides and the many many other crowd funded games like this are going to save the gaming industry while delivering us extremely quality titles that us the gamers want... Not watered down generic experiences and tons of sequels created to appeal to the lowest common denominator mass audience in order to cover the dev costs for these AAA games and make profits. TLDR: Indie Games will save the industry, I think it is fantastic we can say screw the corporate suits and fund the Devs directly in order to help them create the games they actually WANT to make and the majority of us WANT to play. I will def help fund whatever project Black Isle Studios/Obsidian Entertainment wants to make next if they take it back to kickstarter or any other crowd funding source to show my support and have a chance to get all the cool swag that comes from the different backer reward tiers.... And last but not least I hope my collectors edition strategy guide and steam code from Green Man Gaming arrive a day or two before March 26th so I can be preloaded and ready to go when the game unlocks (we all know character creation for these games take around an hour at least lol. I can't even remember how long it took me to put together my Wasteland 2 party) and ill have had a day or two to read the intro pages of the strategy guide. If I did miss something and there is a way to order the official hardback strategy guide from this site and not be redirected to amazon or gamespot... please Please PLEASE let me know so the Devs get the majority of my money and support. Again so sorry about the rambling but as a 34 year old who grew up playing/enjoying/and getting completely lost within the fantastic worlds and stories of all those great CRPGs from the past... I am about to explode from anticipation and excitement like many of the other people on this forum who have been here for months/years longer. Happy Adventuring Everyone and one last time if anyone knows how I can order the hardback collectors edition Strategy Guide from Obsidian themselves, def let me know. Ill wait another couple days before ordering off amazon if I have to.

I really apologize if this has been answered but I did not see a search function so please have mercy on my soul. I'm just an excited old school gamer who wants to give some more money and sales to this wonderful dev team!!! I just purchased the Champion Edition off Green Man Gamings VIP section. I would like to upgrade this to the Royal edition when I get my next paycheck which is next Friday. The only place I see that you can upgrade editions is on steam where you can just pay the extra money for champion edition and royal edition from a hero edition base game. I don't see anywhere to just upgrade to the Royal edition from a champion edition pack. The item I really want is the strategy guide. The royal edition has it in PDF. Since I don't really see a way to only upgrade my champion edition copy to the royal edition is it better to just spend another $45 on steam and repurchase my champion edition pre order items again in order to receive the royal edition perks... Am I better off just ordering the real deal collectors edition book strategy guide off amazon (It looks beautful and so well done i think id rather have the collectors edition hardback book) Or is there a way to just pay the difference between a champion pack to royal edition outside of steam that I am not seeing??? I'd love to buy that prima collectors strategy guide separately from this website but I don not see the option to. Are these things that might be available to do after release? Thank everyone in advance so much for your time and cannot wait for release in 2 weeks. This game is going to be soooo amazing its a shame I didn't know much about kickstarter while Project eternity was on there doing it's campaign. I really really hope it does extremely well so they can continue on with great expansion packs adding new content and enough money to start development on a sequel or different type of old school CRPG when the time is right. Thanks again for your time everyone especially if this question has been asked before .