Meshugger

So you want to protect freedom by controlling major private companies? There are a gajillion social media options out there. Twitter will not be at the top forever, and if they make moves that end up making themselves obsolete, they get to hang out with Myspace in the has been pile. Sounds like a win-win. You assume much, chief. I said that Twitter is ****ed in the head for doing this, not that government should control them. Where did you get that silly idea from? My point is that people all over the world where they do not have the freedom to associate and to express themselves are dependent on these platforms, most often american ones since you guys have freedom written into the constitution, and that it is quite troubling, if not very worrysome when companies seems to be hellbent on restricting these very freedoms on the whims of their PR departments. Sure, there are alternatives and new ones will spring up, but i find it a serious issue when this very freedom constantly being pushed around, controlled, and even more serious when people seem to be totally unaware of the consequences of such. Sorry for the belated response but if there are seriously people who would rely on a medium like Twitter for there primary source of information and or direction then unfortunately they would be constantly at a disadvantage as social media is not considered a reliable source of information It was never meant to be that and if you are honest you would realize and accept that So once again to reiterate the point, it makes no substantial difference if Twitter is censored or monitored *sigh*

Dont you think you are egregiously exaggerating....yes Social Media did play a certain part in updating people in some countries around the Arab Spring but it wasn't what implemented the change we saw in some countries. The positive change we did see were people acting and doing things in RL. In other words social media isn't as important or influential as you seem to think 14-15 year olds today do not even watch TV, but rather congregate on snapchat, whatsapp, twitter, and youtube. They are completely dependent on the information 'allowed' on those platforms. If social media is controlled, then so is mainstream social interaction. What, you think organizations reponsible for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program) ...do not have a wested interest in this? I am afraid that this pushes anything "unacceptable" into the fringes and we will have more extremists unintensionally among our midst exploding with various attacks because the spectrum is too narrow, all while we have all these governmental institutions experimenting with how to monitor and to control such information. Let people be is simply much to ask, it seems. I understand your concern, I really do. You are worried that the free flow of information on the Internet will be influenced and monitored by organisations or government funded groups that will ultimately censor or control this information and what people will access. I have two points for you to consider Countries like Russia and China already censor and control the Internet in there respective countries ....yet your links seem to be about censorship in the USA and Western countries. Why don't you discuss what is going on in non-Western countries...or do they get a pass ? Programs like Prism will be used to target people that mean harm to the USA, we should be supportive of measures to protect citizens of countries that are potentially targets of cyber attacks and normal homegrown and external terrorist attacks. Don't you feel our governments should do anything reasonable to protect there citizens ? I critisize the US because i hold them to the highest standard and almost every single one of those companies are american. China, Russia and most other countries are in ****-tier when it comes to concepts of freedom and liberty, both culturally and judicially. //edit: Prism is indiscriminate surveillance, which has no basis in any free society.

Dont you think you are egregiously exaggerating....yes Social Media did play a certain part in updating people in some countries around the Arab Spring but it wasn't what implemented the change we saw in some countries. The positive change we did see were people acting and doing things in RL. In other words social media isn't as important or influential as you seem to think 14-15 year olds today do not even watch TV, but rather congregate on snapchat, whatsapp, twitter, and youtube. They are completely dependent on the information 'allowed' on those platforms. If social media is controlled, then so is mainstream social interaction. What, you think organizations reponsible for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program) ...do not have a wested interest in this? I am afraid that this pushes anything "unacceptable" into the fringes and we will have more extremists unintensionally among our midst exploding with various attacks because the spectrum is too narrow, all while we have all these governmental institutions experimenting with how to monitor and to control such information. Let people be is simply much to ask, it seems.

So you want to protect freedom by controlling major private companies? There are a gajillion social media options out there. Twitter will not be at the top forever, and if they make moves that end up making themselves obsolete, they get to hang out with Myspace in the has been pile. Sounds like a win-win. You assume much, chief. I said that Twitter is ****ed in the head for doing this, not that government should control them. Where did you get that silly idea from? My point is that people all over the world where they do not have the freedom to associate and to express themselves are dependent on these platforms, most often american ones since you guys have freedom written into the constitution, and that it is quite troubling, if not very worrysome when companies seems to be hellbent on restricting these very freedoms on the whims of their PR departments. Sure, there are alternatives and new ones will spring up, but i find it a serious issue when this very freedom constantly being pushed around, controlled, and even more serious when people seem to be totally unaware of the consequences of such.

Yeah, who cares if the Arab Spring depended on Twitter for people to organize? Who cares whenever major private companies try to control the flow of information? No one.

It's over. https://twitter.com/enemylimes/status/657118739972755457 https://8ch.net/gamergatehq/res/290449.html#290449 Twitter is experimenting with a software that contains "harmful" content from being viewed or showed in the newsfeed. It proves to be quite scalable and effective.

Meet the new premier of Canada:

Move along, /pol/ is having a slow day and have nothing else to do than to troll the SW-universe. Am I the only one than seem to lack any interest in the new movies? Maybe I am still in heavy denial after the prequels, those emotional scars will never heal :( Hey George Lucas is out of the picture so there is at least a fighting chance it will be good. Let the healing begin....with great lense-flares. I'll show myself out.

Watching Star Wars was a magical experience as a kid though.

Move along, /pol/ is having a slow day and have nothing else to do than to troll the SW-universe. Am I the only one than seem to lack any interest in the new movies? Maybe I am still in heavy denial after the prequels, those emotional scars will never heal :(

What happened the last election? A scandal or just good 'ole voter's fatigue?

In the picture in the upper left corner, look at those eyes. I've seen similar stares from junkies or from mental patients. Their persona is simply.not.there.

Dear lord, what a bunch a basket cases. I feel pity for the developer(s) of Super Meat Boy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gARtoXjGOnQ

Thank you for your input, but why are they pro-TPP? IIRC, they had nothing against it, or was it the conservatives perhaps?

My feelings are hurt, post reported. TN, escort that white cishet-****lord out of this forum. He doesn't need to be your audience anymore. Donate to my patreon. No, but seriously. According to your post, your main problem with people who - according to you, but let's accept the idea for the sake of argument - want to change society from top-down and with force is that these particular people can't accept an objective morality to base their views on. Which implies that others who'd want to do the same, ie. change society with force, but do this while accepting the idea of objective morality - however wrong-headed their particular version of such might be - are completely fine as far as you're concerned. "One of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever heard" doesn't even begin to cover it. Ah, you misunderstand me a bit there with your judgement. While i am sad to inform you that pacifism is an ideal and war is a fact, i really do not wish for that to happen and will do as much as possible as any other guy. What i am talking about is the fault of not having, or striving for, an objective morality because otherwise we cannot evolve as a species further, since every interaction is relativistic and in the end: pointless and meaningless. The Frankfurt school has some ideas, but i haven't seen any objective values from there that are not a perversion of values that already exists from before. I may myself falther and stray away on my quest for truth, beauty and objective morality at times, but that's where i am coming from and that is where i wish to go. Source: C.S. Lewis. Before someone screams "whu? off-topic!!!". It is quite on-topic. GG is simply right and fighting the manifestations of all that is wrong in society

My feelings are hurt, post reported. TN, escort that white cishet-****lord out of this forum. He doesn't need to be your audience anymore. Donate to my patreon.

Oerwirnde: What kind, or how 'Liberal' are the Liberals in your own words?

Irony. Taking one paragraph out of its context and treat it as a point in itself. Very good, have you ever considered entering the field of Journalism? I'm hardly well versed in the various views of the members of the Frankfurt school but from what I understand many of their critiques centred around the fact that capitalism commodifies everything; music, art, fashion and so on are all subject to the process of mechanical reproduction, wherein they are stripped of any meaning or originality and reduced to mere products of consumption leaving society with a "vulgar" and "degenerate" culture bereft of any kind of meaning or originality. I say it's ironic because you blame them for the various things they were complaining about. Yeah, kinda like Marx. Interesting cultural criticism that seizes to be an intellectual curiosity until the moment someone tries to force it on society. Wonderful abstract ideas kinda do that when you take away human nature from them. Because their insistance to change culture from top-down (=social cooperative, lollip0p) and through force always lead to ****, no matter what good intensions they have or if they identified a legitimate problem or not, because it all falls apart when they cannot accept an objective morality to base it upon. The most radical ones are gladly talking about replacing people if they cannot adopt to the new cultural values, yikes! I do understand how one can easily see my hatred for those values can be seen as ironic, true, but how these ideas go around uncontested by anything really, well except for Peter Hitchens perhaps, is repugnant.

Irony. Taking one paragraph out of its context and treat it as a point in itself. Very good, have you ever considered entering the field of Journalism?

But there is a difference, I know and respect Quinn and what she went through, so yes I would care I don't like or support Anita anymore so I would also stay out of it I don't know TB, I don't think I have ever read one of his links so he has no identity for me? Come again? But anyhow, it's ok to downplay suffering and be callous when you haven't established an identity for the victim. Updated my SJWmorals.txt.

It's the same rich kids that read some Foucault and somehow think that they have it all figured out about power structures and deconstructing them, when in reality they are using his literature as tool for their misplaced racism and projected self-hatred. Right now, the academia enables such stupid ideas to go uncontested without debate in this climate of post-modernism where nothing means anything except for power. When i become God Emperor of mankind, I will put them into the wilderness where they would have to learn to survive by themselves and the only literature provided will be Augustine, Aquinas, Plato, and Gramsci for good measure to compare to, so they can finally understand their folly and come out as men, rulers of themselves and their destiny and not as whining maggots. ****ing Frankfurt School and all their disciples. Obfuscators in the search of truth, rapers of beauty, celebrators of banality, begetters of hedonism and tailors of the destruction of civilization. Or maybe they just need unconditional love, that might help in any case. Welp, typing as I am almost falling asleep by the computer. Sorry about the rambling, folks.

The same kind of people were the probably assistants for the Commissars during the Red Terror of 1917-1922. Meaning that they were too much of cowards to actually get their hands dirty, but happily distributed the letters that ordered the executions with great glees on their faces and cheered to themselves back home as finally all of Russia could experience the same pain as they felt about their own self-worth.

I'm pretty sure ambition, drive, and bravery are by-products of hard work. Also I've known a lot of lazy smart people and they don't get very far in life. On the contrary, I have met hard working farmers and nurses that haven't gotten anywhere in life. The amount of labour they simple put in is ridiculous, but they have gotten nowhere due to, in the first case, having bad weather and falling market prices due to stiff competition and in the case of the second one it is due to market saturation and union deals leading to stagnation in wages. You have to have the brains to work around the system, you have to brave enough to dare to fail if so happens and you have to have the drive to succeed.