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I'm fairly sure they're not. Mesh is full of **** more often than he isn't. Please point where on the doll my argument might have hurt you.

I thought you were of the opinion that people, by and large, are idiots? I was highlighting that the argument didn't contain the whole picture.

Is that why people like him? Because he fails at business, will bancrupt the US, is insane, likes to hang around David Duke, will authorize nuke strikes on the very country that he claims to love so much and make great again?

^Good. Keep on rockin'!

"Trust in handle immigration": Clinton 50% - Trump 44% Tehehehe. What exactly do you mean? How?

I honestly fail to see how Confucius would be relevant to anybody in the western world, and I'm one of those people who read not only him, but also a sizeable chunk of the commentary and related works written by his most prominent students. I must agree that Confucius is no longer relevant to Western Societies, but is he still relevant to Eastern Societies? The only book store in walking distance when I was growing up was one that carried only books on Philosophy. I started reading Descartes When I was 8 and have read most of the published writings of everyone listed with the exception of St. Thomas Aquinas. I also feel that Nietzsche. Whether you appreciate him or not, he definitely contributed a lot to Western societies. I object to including the Bible as necessary to understand Western authors and Western Society. It is, imo, pure fiction. I have read most of it because Christianity is so prevalent here. I am not at all sure that Jesus actually existed. I think he was a fictional character constructed to teach the "new" Christian values in the New Testament. That said, I do believe in the Gods, all of them. There is no one true God. How could there possibly be just one? What about life on Planet 10 in the Eighth dimension? Surely they worship their own Gods. Yes my example is facetious but it makes the point. We don't know if there are other planets with intelligent life on them, but if there are I doubt they would be Christians. Robert L. Forward even postulated the possibility of intelligent life on a Neutron Star in his first novel, The Dragon's Egg. For clarification, I am a Buddhist. I have studied religions of all sorts, including Mysticism and Shintoism as well as many others. The only one that makes sense to me is Buddhism, but I don't think it is really a religion. It is much more a path that one walks. For reference (I don't want to be thought of as being ancient LOL) I am 16. You're still young, but do read Thomas Aquinas, it will give you the necessary understanding on why the Bible is an important part of Western culture. I also recommend to read about Faust. I have read about Faust and about Dante's nine circles of Hell as well as other similar books.I have read parts of Aquinas, but would counter that the bible is only relevant if you are reading Aquinas or other Christian authors. I think the Bible is only necessary if you wish to read more about Christianity which has long been the prevalent Western religion. Yes I am young, but I am more well read than most people regardless of their age. In addition to reading the authors I talked about above, I have read Bertrand Russell, Ayn Rand, Robert Pirsig, Carlos Castaneda, Hunter S. Thompson, and Douglas Hofstadter to name a few. I read my first philosophy book (Kierkegaard's Either Or) at the age of 8. I do not believe I needed to know the bible to understand any of those authors with the exception of the ones writing about Christian beliefs. People often judge me because of my age, but I am more mature than most 25 year olds, and fairly intelligent as well You're halfway there. To build up understanding requires times and wisdom, which comes with age no matter how you do it. Simply put, what i am talking about is the perspective to connect the dots. I recommend travelling to Europe and witness the classical arts and architecture in first hand and try to make friends with the locals, then you will notice how intervowen the stories and ethos in the Bible are to everyday society and interaction. Only young people care about their age and how mature they percieve to be to others (well, except for Bruce), you'll understand later. It's not an insult, i would be more worried if you weren't. That being said, you have an inquiring mind and a seeker of knowledge. Don't ever stop doing that. I politely disagree. Perhaps you needed age and wisdom to be able to connect the dots, I already connect them quite well thank you.Have you been a Christian your entire life? Or have you experienced other religions? Have you traveled to Europe? Give an example of how the archetecture is interwoven with the bible ethos. In your opinion, the stories and ethos of the bible are more interwoven in Europe than here? Perhaps, sans England. In my opinion, most Christians here have not read the bible. They can quote the parts that have been feed to them, along with the interpretation that was fed to them, but very few have read the bible. Where were you born? Where do you ive? Just respond with "Europe" or "US" please. I don't want to be responsible for any phishing. I was born in Europe and live in the US. You should disagree, otherwise you would have the soul of an old git, which is quite detriment to a life of a teenager. I am raised Lutheran but I live an agnostic life, however i acknowledge the importance of religion is in a culture, as there are none and there hasn't ever been any great civilization without a founding religion. I am from northern Europe and i have travelled most of Europe (except for those areas where it expected to bribe the cops), some of Middle East and i have been the US twice (been in more than 20 states) and Canada. I can give the stories and i have heard or art i have seen in Vienna or a remote village in the mountains of Slovenia, but i find it more important that you experience that yourself in order to form your own opinion on if things, as i can assure you that it's quite a bore to lay down the metrics on cultural familiarity and build a thesis from it and having to read it. Exploring it yourself is much more rewarding. You'll get it in due time.

I'm reminded of a joke about how most Silicon Valley folks(programmers and stuff, not necessarily executives) are all libertarians until their jobs are in danger of being outsourced or taken. The argument is that whatever principles whatever group has are going to be jettisoned in times of crisis by a good number of members of whatever group in favor of what they perceive to be self-interest. I'm not sure if it's true in every case, but I've noticed a lot of people from varying ideologies willing to accept, or even support, things that are antithetical to their ideology and rhetoric because there's some pressing issue that overrides their core principles. What's that proverb again? "People only support policies and ideas that they can afford, as they are not affected by the cost". It goes to both ways of the political spectrum of course, when push comes to shove, it's the ingroup that matters; whatever that ingroup constitutes as (family, friends, class, tribe, etc). Few people live truly by virteous principles that are higher than themselves and even fewer overcome themselves and transcend to greatness.

Sounds like Silicon Valley is LARPing as aristocrats.

I honestly fail to see how Confucius would be relevant to anybody in the western world, and I'm one of those people who read not only him, but also a sizeable chunk of the commentary and related works written by his most prominent students. I must agree that Confucius is no longer relevant to Western Societies, but is he still relevant to Eastern Societies? The only book store in walking distance when I was growing up was one that carried only books on Philosophy. I started reading Descartes When I was 8 and have read most of the published writings of everyone listed with the exception of St. Thomas Aquinas. I also feel that Nietzsche. Whether you appreciate him or not, he definitely contributed a lot to Western societies. I object to including the Bible as necessary to understand Western authors and Western Society. It is, imo, pure fiction. I have read most of it because Christianity is so prevalent here. I am not at all sure that Jesus actually existed. I think he was a fictional character constructed to teach the "new" Christian values in the New Testament. That said, I do believe in the Gods, all of them. There is no one true God. How could there possibly be just one? What about life on Planet 10 in the Eighth dimension? Surely they worship their own Gods. Yes my example is facetious but it makes the point. We don't know if there are other planets with intelligent life on them, but if there are I doubt they would be Christians. Robert L. Forward even postulated the possibility of intelligent life on a Neutron Star in his first novel, The Dragon's Egg. For clarification, I am a Buddhist. I have studied religions of all sorts, including Mysticism and Shintoism as well as many others. The only one that makes sense to me is Buddhism, but I don't think it is really a religion. It is much more a path that one walks. For reference (I don't want to be thought of as being ancient LOL) I am 16. You're still young, but do read Thomas Aquinas, it will give you the necessary understanding on why the Bible is an important part of Western culture. I also recommend to read about Faust. I have read about Faust and about Dante's nine circles of Hell as well as other similar books. I have read parts of Aquinas, but would counter that the bible is only relevant if you are reading Aquinas or other Christian authors. I think the Bible is only necessary if you wish to read more about Christianity which has long been the prevalent Western religion. Yes I am young, but I am more well read than most people regardless of their age. In addition to reading the authors I talked about above, I have read Bertrand Russell, Ayn Rand, Robert Pirsig, Carlos Castaneda, Hunter S. Thompson, and Douglas Hofstadter to name a few. I read my first philosophy book (Kierkegaard's Either Or) at the age of 8. I do not believe I needed to know the bible to understand any of those authors with the exception of the ones writing about Christian beliefs. People often judge me because of my age, but I am more mature than most 25 year olds, and fairly intelligent as well You're halfway there. To build up understanding requires times and wisdom, which comes with age no matter how you do it. Simply put, what i am talking about is the perspective to connect the dots. I recommend travelling to Europe and witness the classical arts and architecture in first hand and try to make friends with the locals, then you will notice how intervowen the stories and ethos in the Bible are to everyday society and interaction. Only young people care about their age and how mature they percieve to be to others (well, except for Bruce), you'll understand later. It's not an insult, i would be more worried if you weren't. That being said, you have an inquiring mind and a seeker of knowledge. Don't ever stop doing that.

Oh yes. https://twitter.com/thehill/status/733758716311437312/photo/1

^Why in the world are you not working in Vegas?

Discuss.

What, no 8-track? pffft. Next thing you'll probably have the audacity to claim that VHS is better than BetaMax, well i never!

I honestly fail to see how Confucius would be relevant to anybody in the western world, and I'm one of those people who read not only him, but also a sizeable chunk of the commentary and related works written by his most prominent students. I must agree that Confucius is no longer relevant to Western Societies, but is he still relevant to Eastern Societies? The only book store in walking distance when I was growing up was one that carried only books on Philosophy. I started reading Descartes When I was 8 and have read most of the published writings of everyone listed with the exception of St. Thomas Aquinas. I also feel that Nietzsche. Whether you appreciate him or not, he definitely contributed a lot to Western societies. I object to including the Bible as necessary to understand Western authors and Western Society. It is, imo, pure fiction. I have read most of it because Christianity is so prevalent here. I am not at all sure that Jesus actually existed. I think he was a fictional character constructed to teach the "new" Christian values in the New Testament. That said, I do believe in the Gods, all of them. There is no one true God. How could there possibly be just one? What about life on Planet 10 in the Eighth dimension? Surely they worship their own Gods. Yes my example is facetious but it makes the point. We don't know if there are other planets with intelligent life on them, but if there are I doubt they would be Christians. Robert L. Forward even postulated the possibility of intelligent life on a Neutron Star in his first novel, The Dragon's Egg. For clarification, I am a Buddhist. I have studied religions of all sorts, including Mysticism and Shintoism as well as many others. The only one that makes sense to me is Buddhism, but I don't think it is really a religion. It is much more a path that one walks. For reference (I don't want to be thought of as being ancient LOL) I am 16. You're still young, but do read Thomas Aquinas, it will give you the necessary understanding on why the Bible is an important part of Western culture. I also recommend to read about Faust.

If the people threatening to leave the country if Trump becomes president really do it, America actually will become great again. I think it's a great idea. People fleeing the country won't make it great. Neither will Trump being Pres. What we need is a complete restructure of values. That's not enough, but It's where to start. America was a great idea until greed got in the way. It is not about the moving/fleeing out the country itself. It's about people who threaten to do it if the wrong guy is at office, which shows the content of their character: disloyal, craven and emotionally unable to understand that you cannot have the cake and eat it too. It's basically the traits of a betrayer. These are also rich enough to have these opinions so to speak.

He did say in his previous video that he was going to make this one. As for the thread issue.... I don't see any anger from the guy, nor is he talking about a video game. The new Ghostbusters represents pretty much everything that is wrong in Hollywood this last decade or two. Twitter is for morons or those that would lead them somewhere. How... original. Now i feel a bit embaressed...I created this thread on the assumption that you guys knew who he was. He's Angry Video Game Nerd, he is the original "angry" video game reviewer, starting back in 2004. His reviews get 1-2 million views to this day. Cinemassacre is his movie reviews that he started later. Just be sure, is this completely new to you guys?

The guy is like Tom Petty, he won't back down.

...or the film is incredibly bland (=bad) that it is a calculated risk to manufacture an outrage for possible higher returns. But that would of course require coordination among the press, which we all know is quite impossible.

I had to look her up as i had no idea on the context. Is it this perhaps? http://namebrandlindsay.com/2011/06/22/ethical-storytelling-or-why-i-did-it/ She basically had an abortion in order to create a documentary about abortion. Oh wow, now that tweet makes sense, pretty brutal.

Well, It's the current year with elbowing PM's on the loose after all.

Image ....all the guy said was that he wasn't going to watch the new Ghostbusters movie. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz8X2A7wHyQ

Huh, did i miss something? There was some sort of kerfuffle in the commons today. A heated discussion between MPs, and Trudeau came to pull one of his guys out of the discussion and accidentally elbowed a female conservative MP in the chest, who had to run away because she was so violated. Hahahaha

Huh, did i miss something?

Finally working again. Suffice to say, the last page has given an urge to grow a mullet again.

That's definitely not true. I have been strolling around a number of times with my youngest cousin with a baby trolley at night in one of the worst neighbourhoods, reported as one of those "no-go zones" by extreme right-wing press, and it's all pretty neat, tidy and serene. The only potential threat, just like when I grew up, are teenage gangs of frustrated young males. These are the ones throwing stones etc. at rescue workers on occasion, after having set one or two cars on fire as some twisted idea of fun for your Friday night. I felt much more threatened when I was visiting poor French suburbs, for instance, recently. And, once again, these are not the immigrants from the refugee "crisis". These are the teen kids of poor parents of various background who almost all have been born (the parents, that is) in Sweden or at least lived there since they were in kindergarten. And many suburbs have been multinational since the late 70s. At school, when I was 13-15 years of age, we proudly put up all of the flags from the background of all the students in all the hallways. Something like 450 pupils had 78 different nationality backgrounds back then. Nothing new here, folks. The only new thing is the extreme right alarmist twist of it all, sadly. That's the thing isn't it? It's the next generation of immigrants who are conducting the violence, so why continue bringing in more and thus creating more friction in the long run? Also, i find interesting how little it matters to you for them doing what they do. This is from the perspective of the other side of the pond though, that kind of behaviour is simply not tolerated here. Just to understand your position more correctly, a few questions: 1) What is a Swede? Anyone with a swedish passport? 2) Do you consider Ramadan a typical swedish holiday? 3) Is this propaganda? http://denkorteavis.dk/2016/din-forbannede-luder/ 4) What's your opinion on the rise of the Swedish Democrats? Why are they gaining ground? 5) Do you consider Swedish society going in the positive direction? The first thing you say is in a way correct, but! And this is a big but: It's the second generation of all the residents in those poor problem-ridden suburbs that produce a lot of restless youth and part-time thugs and even full-time criminals. The fact that they are immigrants have very little do to with it. I can only speak for myself, and my very rough areas I grew up in, but the Swedes and the Finns of old Nordic lineage were overall worse than those of Assyrian decent or Greek, Kurdish, Egyptian or Italian, just to name a few fairly common backgrounds where I lived then. The latter didn't take up bad alcohol or drug habits, and they took school more seriously. Over to your questions: 1) A typical Swede is one who's ashamed of being a Swede or one who doesn't have any sense of national pride whatsoever. I know it's sounds weird, but we were brought up this way. So, yes, it's little more than a Swedish citizen with a passport. 2) Here's the extremely weird thing. Swedish holidays are all the same: X-mas (jul), Easter (påsk) and Midsummer's Eve (Midsommarafton) all have the same food (with courses and strong drinks (snaps) hearkening back to when Sweden was the poorest country in the whole of Europe, so foreigners usually find them horrible.) Sweden got a National Day as a holiday extremely late, year 2005. Well, we also have Lucia (an Italian Saint that turned into a tradition in the 1800s) as well as May the 1st (Första maj), the workers' big holiday. However, no. Ramadan isn't a Swedish holiday, but for many new Swedes, it still is, but it's not an acknowledged national holiday. And, heh, did you know that the pinnacle of Swedish X-Mas is watching one hour of a potpourri of American Walt Disney classics? 3) It's more or less Danish right-wing propaganda, and it's of course applauded by Swedish Democrats and their propaganda site: Avpixlat. Expo has had researchers investigate the networks of these organisations and they are almost all over Europe and all semi-fascistoid, anti-Semitic and anti-Islam and of course racist. 4) They appeal to people's fear of the foreign and the unknown and to people's need for scapegoats. They have used the Internet for years very systemically and with great success. Most of their voters were originally young and middle-aged men in those problematic suburbs we spoke of earlier, as well as men of that age in the countryside. Later, they gained ground among elderly men as well, and of course quite a few women jumped on the bandwagon too. I mean, at their largest, I reckon they had polls passing 20%. 5) No, but not for the reason you'd think. I want a society where income disparity is as low as possible, and those having trouble coping should have decent safety nets. But the past 10 years, or rather, 20 years, that kind of social-democratic Sweden gave way to a neoliberal democratic society, much more akin to Thatcherism than, say, Olof Palme's socialism light with a strong international solidarity. Thank you for your answers, it's appriciated. Firstly, i would to point out that you fit the swedish archetype so much that it almost hurts, well done! Secondly, while i do know of the notorious Finns in Sweden, like Juha Valjakkala, their antics were usually within their own community with alcohol and knife-fights, seldom spilling into swedish society. Based on my own observations there of course. Now, some comments about your answers: 1) Mentally, yes right there with archetype that i was talking about earlier. I can mostly agree with this. 2) Agreed again, and once again i find it quite cute that you have to downplay the essential swedish holidays on their swedishness. 3) This is a bit more disputed case. I simply disagree. I think that these outlets exist because of the paranoia of the mainstream media of anything to be interpreted racist is taboo and thus pushed for these alternative sites to exist and become popular. If would've been a truly open debate in the mainstream media about this, those sites wouldn't even had a reason to exist to begin with. Also, articles like the danish one can also be found in standard norwegian and finnish sites. 4) I think their popularity exist for the same reason as the previous point. Parties like SD do not just pop into existence and become popular without a reason. 5) Here is where we disagree the most i think. Swedes, like most northern people have a very low ingroup/outgroup-mentality and a high focus on individualism. We simply believe in moral universalism to the bone. When people immigrating from pastoral cultures like the middle east and africa, who has strong ingroup/outgroup mentality and moral particularism, not from ignorance, but because of that's simply their culture. Practically that means that are at a much higher risk to ghettofy themselves and practice different rules within group and outside the group in clear conscience. This practically means that they can easily abuse the system to their benefit and a clear disadvantage to the host population. To clarify, Sweden cannot simply cope with the amount of immigration from countries with complete different cultural values. I think that society will be more fractured and collectivized (Different ethnocentric or religious groups), once those different groups become big enough to identify with. Sooner or later, swedes will be an own collectivized group among many (an educated guess is that when they become a minority) and that's when society breaks down completely. The result will either be war between the groups, or a new Caesar steps up and rules with iron fist over them. Either way, the open, democratic society will die by the time that happens. I hope that i am wrong on the last point and the groups will dissimate into the bigger swedish group, but lets just say that the odds are against me when the labour is only local and the capital is global. Cheers!