Meshugger

Hahahaha, oh my oh my. I am not laughing at you, but at how these kinds of news just go by with little notice. The cracks are showing among the political class and the mainstream media, and i hope there will be some serious fixing done soon or Heinrich Heine's poem will come true in Europe yet once again.

Contrary to the belief that he is a simple psychopath, i think that he is more like Homer and misunderstand the situation in his own funny way.

Witness the thoughts of a man never getting any political power. I would be glad to be wrong.

"All you know about me is what I've sold you, Dumb ****. I sold out long before you ever heard my name. I sold my soul to make a record, Dip ****, And.then.you.bought.one." One of my favourite songs from one of my favourite bands. Thank you.

Welp, all eyes on the DNC now. Bernie has endorsed Hillary. But they have probably built a nice wall around the venue to keep this from happening :^)

It boggles my mind how a supreme court justice can give such unprofessional statements. This is banana-republic-****-tier level of arguments.

This is a strange post and a direct contradiction of how you comment on all topics...you have views on anything you want to...and guess what you live, in Finland So its not relevant to where I live to say " Serbia committed war crimes" ....sorry this is a difficult concept to understand " how can someone comment on a conflict when they dont live there "....I'll be honest I just dont have the interest to really explain how this is possible Maybe someone else will explain it to you? What is sarcasm? ? You were being sarcastic? And how!

This is a strange post and a direct contradiction of how you comment on all topics...you have views on anything you want to...and guess what you live, in Finland So its not relevant to where I live to say " Serbia committed war crimes" ....sorry this is a difficult concept to understand " how can someone comment on a conflict when they dont live there "....I'll be honest I just dont have the interest to really explain how this is possible Maybe someone else will explain it to you? What is sarcasm?

As we all know, the Yugoslav war will always lead into forgiveness and understanding when discussed on the internet. Especially when someone not from the region picks a side to shame to other.

Well, **** me. Those numbers were ridiculous.

Trump is an idiot but plays the media and the establishment at large like a flute. He is the worst of the republicans ever despite getting record amount of votes. He is failed business man, but still worth billions. He is a racist and xenophobe but people of all kinds of colors show up to his rallies. He is misogynist but every woman meeting him end up loving him. He is a anti-semite despite his daughter is married to a Jew. The guy sure is everything. But hey, better vote for nothing instead. Amirite fellas?

well, am betting the % is lower than say the number o' english teenagers who believe winston churchill is a fantasy character. am willing to bet hard money that the % is less than the number o' russians who believe the chelyabinsk meteor were not a meteor at all-- top choices seem to include a US Govt. conspiracy, Russian Govt. conspiracy or aliens. HA! Good Fun! But Gromnir there are some very nasty and racist things people say about black South African men.. And some of the comments are just not worth even debating https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_cleansing_myth Accept reality and work to improve accordingly. Otherwise nothing will be solved.

No happiness is a choice if you live in the EU, not that you have done much to assist our EU friends in feeling happy in living the EU In the example of the EU its a unusual construct, someone like Meshugger or Dark may feel the EU needs to change and they say " I'm not happy " ...but they happy they just dont realize how happy they are The EU is exactly what its suppose to be, it wont function without the central government and EU institutions...these are mandatory. So it makes no logical sense to say " we want more sovereignty " ...thats like saying " I want to watch a movie but the screen doesnt work " Hahaha I am not trying to embarrass you but you represent an important demographic in the EU structure You represent a fairly vocal group who criticizes aspects of the EU on issues like the "loss of nationhood " But please tell what exactly what you want from the EU, what would make you happy? And lets say you could ask for anything within reason Stop playing willfully ignorant, i have already stated my wishes several times in this thread.

But Volo you are comparing a modern movement for greater recognition and fairness from how the police treats them to a fundamentally racist white supremacist movement founded after the civil war...its terrible comparison and completely unfair They aren't for greater recognition and fairness. They are an organization based on lies. Black criminals are killed by police at the same rate they are arrested for crimes. White criminals are killed by police at the same rate they are arrested for crimes. There is a disproportionate amount of blacks in prison because they commit a disproportionate amount of crime. There is no big conspiracy by the government or white people to oppress and kill blacks, they have been taught that there is though, so they act accordingly. They also have a culture that glorifies criminals. They also seem to be in denial about what kind of people these guys are too. You can hardly describe a guy with multiple domestic abuse convictions, multiple prison sentences, a warrant for his arrest for failing to register as a sex offender who is carrying an illegal weapon while owing 25,000 in child support as a "good man" As for earlier, if they reform their methods, and actually take their name seriously and start tackling the real problems of violence in the black community, then maybe I will respect them as an organization. Right now they are a hate group with 5 deaths under their belt. Okay I am not going to give up on this point http://blacklivesmatter.com/guiding-principles/ You should read some of there principles before you say they stand for racsim ..for example see below Black Lives Matter is an ideological and political intervention in a world where Black lives are systematically and intentionally targeted for demise. It is an affirmation of Black folks’ contributions to this society, our humanity, and our resilience in the face of deadly oppression. Listen & believe, listen & believe!

Volo please, false concern for Iraqi's is beneath you., you dont care about Arabs who live in the ME. It actually makes me feel nausea's when you pretend to care And yes the USA pulled out end of 2011....al-maliki was left running the government and was told to incorporate the Sunni's He failed to do this, its not the West fault for this failure They were aware of the risks, they just didn't care miscalculated the threat entirely. http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/06/14/hillary-clinton-received-secret-memo-stating-obama-admin-support-for-isis/ Obama may have read this but once again it was time for the USA to leave Iraq. The creation and success was a group like ISIS only came after the USA left Iraq But for me even if the USA knew about ISIS why must they get involved in Syria? The Russians and Chinese vetoed any military intervention in Syria http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/20/world/middleeast/russia-and-china-veto-un-sanctions-against-syria.html?_r=0 So the Syrian was left and predictably it got worse and worse, the country now must be one of the most damaged places in the world but I'm not sure what people expect the West to do? Read the report again, they messed up on their judgement completely at best.

No happiness is a choice if you live in the EU, not that you have done much to assist our EU friends in feeling happy in living the EU In the example of the EU its a unusual construct, someone like Meshugger or Dark may feel the EU needs to change and they say " I'm not happy " ...but they happy they just dont realize how happy they are The EU is exactly what its suppose to be, it wont function without the central government and EU institutions...these are mandatory. So it makes no logical sense to say " we want more sovereignty " ...thats like saying " I want to watch a movie but the screen doesnt work " Hahaha

So what's your theory? Clearly part of the motivation of the shooter was that he was pissed at police brutality against blacks. But that can't be all of it, because he's not alone in feeling that way, yet cops aren't picked off by angry snipers daily. So the rest, as he says, is better left to psychologists. What would you like him to say? Come now, you know better. What's to be gained from playing willfully ignorant? That's one of the primary cards in the deck of of evil used by both politicians and criminals to get what they want, get away with X, further agenda X, and so on.... A *lot* can be gained by playing ignorant, willful or not. It's even a legitimate rhetorical strategy, of neutral (not necessarily evil) persuasion, when dealing with those who are less intelligent than the speaker. If you're talking to someone who can't understand concept X (for whatever reason: too dumb, too ignorant themselves, not informed enough, etc), and want to get a point across, dumbing down your words, or pretending to be as dumb/ignorant/uninformed as the listener(s) in order to relate to them (or make them think you relate to them) is often the successful way to go. Sad (usually; not necessarily sad when dealing with children for example) but true. Why is Obama doing it here? Well, a much longer essay (that I'd rather not spend time writing) could be written on that. I trust you're astute enough though to see why yourself. Just don't make the mistake of thinking he's trying to solve the widely perceived problem(s). Or make the mistake of thinking that Obama (and most other politicians) doesn't do it all the time. The example you give is certainly not a break in the norm for him. It was a rhetorical question. I have to be better the next time, sorry.

Volo please, false concern for Iraqi's is beneath you., you dont care about Arabs who live in the ME. It actually makes me feel nausea's when you pretend to care And yes the USA pulled out end of 2011....al-maliki was left running the government and was told to incorporate the Sunni's He failed to do this, its not the West fault for this failure They were aware of the risks, they just didn't care or miscalculated the threat entirely. http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/06/14/hillary-clinton-received-secret-memo-stating-obama-admin-support-for-isis/

Why is it so difficult? https://twitter.com/CNN/status/751821575410880512 What is to gain by playing willfully ignorant? Nothing will be solved that way.

That's beyond stupid. The health, productivity and general quality-of-life benefits of love, friendship and "beauty" are very tangible and measurable. As for your quantification of love, friendship and beauty. Oh boy, i pity that mindset. What, exactly, is pitiable about the idea that the positive benefits they have on our lives is not just "in our heads", but actually tangible, measurable and provable? You're arguing with a vast body of research that says human relationships and human contact are good for you; why? To score points in a debate by letting you claim that this is some sort of abstract and fuzzy benefit that can't be quantified? I find it pitiful because it restricts them into the material, which means it is indistuingishable to a well balanced diet, a good return of investment or an optimisation of productivity. When in reality it is intertwined into our shared consciousness, expressed in music, art and literature and right down to our mythologies of gods and heroes, how they overcame themselves and elevated their very position thanks to those values. A human being can perfectly survive without experiencing a friendship where you can completely depend on each others help, or experiencing a love so strong that you can give your own life for another without hesitation, or just admire a piece of art in complete disinterest of oneself and be completely in awe of its beauty. But i pity such an existence or mindset, because it is missing on what essentially makes us human. I am not trying to throw empirical knowledge to the side, if that's what you think. I am simply stating that i find it lacking.

Yet you seem to be quite dismayed at the thought of a unified European culture growing, expanding and subsuming national identities. Why can't we just let national identity die in peace naturally? That's beyond stupid. The health, productivity and general quality-of-life benefits of love, friendship and "beauty" are very tangible and measurable. Two reasons: 1) It's being replaced by something lower in principle, of which no one is willing defend to the death. It will not satisfy anyone and give rise to real marching right/left-wing parties and another war, which is what i want to avoid for the next generation. 2) The power is centralised if national governments shift their power to Brussels, which will end with continental size warfare unlike anything seen before. Don't fool yourself just because we currently live in relatively peaceful times that it will continue forever if you give up on nations. Both are destructive in the design and i wish to move away from it for a better future. Nation states might erode, but power has to shift to locally with their own laws, hierarchies and armies. That kind of "death" we can all get behind; I would even call it rebirth. As for your quantification of love, friendship and beauty. Oh boy, i pity that mindset.

Generally there are no voluntary top down structures, they're enforced.Nonetheless this doesn't answer any of my questions on the supposed value of a diversity of cultures, ethnicities and so on. Outside of an academic setting I always write with colourful language. All I'm trying to do is make you up-front with what you're advocating. You make it sound like "structures" are created and enforced just for the sake of it and not from a higher principle which gives it legitimacy for its foundation. But anyhow, you ask for an inherit value of cultures, ethnicites etc? They are an essential part of the human condition in how we express ourselves directly, indirectly and how we find meaning. Taking a materialistic approach and try to add metrical values is missing the point entirely. They cannot be switched, repackaged or optimized into one super one fitting for all, they have to grow, expand and die naturally, just like our lives. Let me illustrate in another way: If they are valueless, what are their use? What use do we have for love, friendship, beauty? Nothing at all, but we still need them to fulfill ourselves, to transcend beyond ourselves, to become whole. Those things are manifested in ethnical groups, cultures, nations on people and nations on ideal (the last one is still in testing-phase, we shall see yet). To be against that is an inheritly destructive force at worst or an empty one at best. The point of using colorful language went a bit over my head, sorry.

I can only assume that you're not from planet Earth, as the "EU" you talk about has nothing to do with the one we have here. The EU is just as natural and "organical" as the nation state. Europe has a long history of close contact between peoples, constant migrations, cultural exchange, cosmopolitanism, common values, coexistence of ethnic groups, religions, and traditions. It has also a long history of the negations of all those things, and the bloodiest and most destructive times were those where disunity and nationalistic fervour were at their height. The EU is the attempt to draw on the former and further cooperation and coexistence under a common roof. It is a common project of the peoples involved, not the bogeyman of centralisation some people put forward. The EU is a step in consolidating the common European heritage in a world where it becomes increasingly difficult for small states to stand on their own, and where these positive aspects of European history are still under threat - not in the least from those within Europe who thrive on antagonism, factionalism, and conflict. P.S. As someone who usually votes conservative in Europe, I would very much appreciate it if Meshugger's position were not called "conservative". One of the core beliefs of European conservativism, as I see it and has been in my country for the last 60 years, is exactly the support for European integration and unity. Nope, the EU is destructive by design like well-intending parents demanding children to hug because it looks cute. It will implode back into a common market if we are lucky.

The EU's existence came about as organically as any other political institution, nation-states included. Lol, please. You've supported an obviously controversial position and you don't even have the balls to defend it? The common market, yes. EU in its current form, no. It's an abomination based in abstract ideas instead of voluntary cooperation. With such colorful language and accusations thrown all over the place, i cannot help to notice that i struck some nerve leading to nothing more than ****-slinging. If i am wrong, then my bad.