Ivan the Terrible

I'm not a game designer, so I have no idea of the timeline for axing any additional content in favor of balancing and fixing what's added already. Does it happen early in development? Late? I have no clue. So I'm mostly asking this out of curiosity, for anyone who understands how games are developed, whether working at Obsidian or not. When people fling out various suggestions for debate on these forums, is there a snowball's chance in hell of any of these ideas actually being considered? Or are we simply debating for debating's sake, considering ways to improve the game without ever really expecting that a developer might consider it a good idea and add it to the game? Obviously, with things like adding vehicles to the game or other things that would make MAJOR changes requiring additional artwork, etc., there is no chance. But what about all the suggestions made for improving skills or whatever else? Again, just curious. Either way, arguing over how the game could be improved is an entertaining way to pass the time between now and February.

I noticed that, too. Rather than the 'brisk jog' of KOTOR, she was flat-out running from place to place.

In any game, I always play the first game as a good guy. Most games are usually more coherent that way, KOTOR being no exception. Since my first game of KOTOR was Light Side as well, I'll be playing a Light Sider with a Light Side ending from the first game. I'll try and make my KOTOR II Revan match my first game of KOTOR's Revan.

Visit it once after each planet. After each encounter with the Trandoshans, one in which they simply threaten the Rodian and the next in which they attack you and him, he'll offer you some REALLY good items, including the two best lightsaber crystals in the game.

Well said. My sentiments exactly. The Sith of KOTOR feel less like an epic evil and more like schoolyard bullies. Bioware's conception of 'evil' is extremely shallow, and it detracted from the game. I just couldn't imagine the KOTOR Sith successfully running anything, least of all an army of millions of soldiers on the verge of conquering the Galaxy. Hopefully Obsidian will rectify this; it seems promising so far.

KOTOR with a few improvements. Pretty much what I was expecting.

The Dark Side in KOTOR makes no sense, if you play it from the beginning. You can't help but roll your eyes when people keep identifying you as 'Jedi' or 'Master Jedi' when you're pale as chalk with solid black robes and a red lightsaber, or when the Jedi council sends a man who laughed while two entire families butchered each other on his whim to find the Star Forge for them. OPEN YOUR EYES YOU IDIOTS! Now, whenever I want to go Dark Side, I wait until after the Leviathan with Korriban as the last planet and pretend like the revelation about my true identity pushed me over the edge. Up until then, I'm either goody two-shoes or at least neutral.

I am completely indifferent to this topic. Then why did I respond? I don't know. Maybe 'cause I wanna be level 2 or something.

True. But I get FORCE CHOKE while you're stuck trapping people in a lil' statis field! HA! I think we know who's the man around here.

I think they do....they're just trying not to give the 'twist' of KOTOR away.

"In the Infinite Empire for centuries under the Rakata they had warfare, terror, murder, and bloodshed, but they produced the Star Forge, Force-integrated ships, and computers capable of turning barren planets into lush jungles. In the Republic they had brotherly love - they had 15 millenia of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? Standard issue orange and yellow jumpsuits." Sorry, I was gonna pair this off with another twist....but really, I think the movie referenced may be too obscure.

Wow, would never have believed it if it didn't come from someone who glanced at the code. The AI comes up with 'just the right card', as you say, so often that I just took it for granted that it was cheating....and thus cheated in return, reloading the game whenever I lost.

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Oy gott. It's a joke, friend. Like I said, it was really more of an excuse for people to make bad puns about KOTOR II copying 'twists' from old movies than a subject to be debated.

Hey, they SAID 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it.' For some strange reason, every time you die a 'reload?' screen flashes before your eyes. With a click of yes, you find yourself only moments before your death...errr, presuming you've saved! Who is responsible for this condition? Why can't you die!? You must seek out the most foul and evil of the old Sith, Pavel Ruzzlewell, and convince her to return your mortality....all the while accompanied by the wacky antics of Gorte the Lecherous Torture Droid!

ROSEBUD WAS REVAN'S SLED! IT WAS HIS SLED!

The Ebon Hawk is actually composed entirely of MARIJUANA being smuggled across the border, and due to a poorly aimed force lightning it ignites, causing the entire last Sith base to mellow out, eat lots of pizza, and cheer as you sing onstage in a pink tutu! "Jedi talkin' to me try to tell me how to live! But I don't listen to 'em 'cause my head is like a syve!"

Bah! All nonsense. My third guess: In the midst of the last battle, it's all revealed to be a computer game, and the Sith and Jedi battle spills into the offices of Obsidian, and from there to a Broadway-style theatre that....suddenly....appeared next to the offices of Obsidian, where the Sith and Jedi proceed to get into a rough-and-tumble battle royale against a group of ambiguously gay male dancers! "This is a closed set!" "Piss on you, I'm workin' for Feargus Urquhart!" "NOT IN THE FACE!" (P.S. I have a confession to make; I mostly posted this to make bad puns out of old movies.)

Alternatively: The game is played in reverse, starting with the character finishing off the last Sith Lord, only to learn by the end of the game that he killed the REAL Sith Lord ages ago and, due to his short term memory problems, he's been misleading himself with sticky notes the whole time! The first game ever where you go from the epic levels to level one as the game proceeds!

My thought: Halfway through the game the player discover he/she is DEAD, that only Kreia can see him/her, and that now he/she must help Kreia to discover all the ghosts plaguing her are actually just asking for help! Watch for the color red on the second time playing!

Seconded. Don't pull a Miramax on us, Obsidian! We are not cattle to be milked! We are MEN (and some women)!

It's waaayyyy too medieval. You'd be the laughing stock of the Sith world. Your intimidating armor needs to look futuristic. Here's what the fashion-conscious Sith wears:

They shouldn't have let that out. Now everyone will be speculating so much that someone will probably get it right.

Danke. I can't imagine it would be impossible to add to the game, either. Hopefully a Designer pops in, reads the idea, and it gets the wheels in his head a-turnin'.....