So now ranged weapons finally works for backstabbing, but still have two issue:

 

1) DW, specially light weapons are still inferior for backstabbing, it's weird for rogue to backstabbing someone with big sword;

 

2) Blunderbuss is useless for backstabbing because now only one attack will work for backstabbing so only the 1st projection of blunderbuss works...

 

Imo this can be easily fixed by give rogue a time window for backstab to work, for example, every attack within 2 second from invisible will be counted as a backstab attack, problem solved.

Agree

Totally agree. Also nice idea - but that makes Full Attacks superior.

 

In my opinion Backstab should yield the best results with a small (concealable), one handed weapon. Maybe a flat (scaling or upgradeable) bonus would be best (see Soul Annihilation or Envenomed Strike in PoE). Then the weapon wouldn't matter that much.

I mean, in real life if you manage to sneak up to someone and cleave them with a two-handed sword, that's going to be way more effective than a tiny dagger

Totally agree. Also nice idea - but that makes Full Attacks superior.

 

In my opinion Backstab should yield the best results with a small (concealable), one handed weapon. Maybe a flat (scaling or upgradeable) bonus would be best (see Soul Annihilation or Envenomed Strike in PoE). Then the weapon wouldn't matter that much.

 

There can be a feature for some light weapon called - suitable for backstabbing, which gives some bonus to acc and damage when backstabbing.

 

Also the problem of Full attack/primary attack, DW/2H should be discussed seperately imo because that's a different story where 2h is much weaker.

I mean, in real life if you manage to sneak up to someone and cleave them with a two-handed sword, that's going to be way more effective than a tiny dagger

This reminds me:

 

But yea, when I imagine assassin carrying around a giant two-hander to sneak up and backstab people with it I can't help but giggle. Sad giggle when I play POE  ...

I mean, in real life if you manage to sneak up to someone and cleave them with a two-handed sword, that's going to be way more effective than a tiny dagger

Debateable. First of all you wouldn't be able to conceal a two handed sword. Then the effect of "dagger in the neck" or "great sword through the upper body" is the same: he's dead, Jim.

Edited April 4, 20187 yr by Boeroer

 

I mean, in real life if you manage to sneak up to someone and cleave them with a two-handed sword, that's going to be way more effective than a tiny dagger

Debateable. First of all you wouldn't be able to conceal a two handed sword. Then the effect of "dagger in the neck" or "great sword through the upper body" is the same: he's dead, Jim.

 

 

you fight dragons and other big stuff in this game too dude

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Whaaat? Tell me more secrets!

 

The deepest secret is this: if you die in the Deadfire you (will eventually) die in real life!

I die in the Dadfire every single day.

I die in the Dadfire every single day.

 

Luckily Dadfire isn't like the Matrix at all and there is no correlation between dying in it and dying in real life.

I die in the Dadfire every single day.

Wait till they’re teenagers

I avoid thinking about that.

Now I know why old people drink so much

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JFK assassinated himself using telekinesis because he found out that be would have nuked the entire planet in 1965.

JFK assassinated himself using telekinesis because he found out that be would have nuked the entire planet in 1965.

That's from something right? I want to say Red Dwarf?