Mister French Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Hey all! I read that we would have a choice of story companions to make them single or multi classed, which is awesome. However my question is are we able to select subclasses for them as well? For example I wanted to make Eder as an Unbroken/Streetfighter so he would be super tanky but still get damage benefits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yosharian Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 I have an image that I made with the companion subclass info. It's in the companion info thread in general discussion. Offhand I can tell you Eder gets no subclass options. Yosharian's Deadfire Builds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faustus2 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 I have an image that I made with the companion subclass info. It's in the companion info thread in general discussion. Offhand I can tell you Eder gets no subclass options. So, do you know that/if some companions are allowed subclasses while others are not? Where does your intelligence (the fbi/cia form of the word) come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Villentretenmerth Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 On the upside, some companions have unique subclasses otherwise unavailable to the player/mercenaries, such as Gunhawk Ranger for Maia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister French Posted March 14, 2018 Author Share Posted March 14, 2018 thanks for the replies all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerekKruger Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Companions have locked subclasses, you can't spec them out like you can a mercenary. Do we know this for certain? I know that some companions definitely do (Xoti's unique Priest and Monk subclasses, Pallegina's unique Paladin order etc.) but in the cases where no subclass has been specified (Edér for example) has it been stated that they won't be allowed to take one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yosharian Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 I have an image that I made with the companion subclass info. It's in the companion info thread in general discussion. Offhand I can tell you Eder gets no subclass options. So, do you know that/if some companions are allowed subclasses while others are not? Where does your intelligence (the fbi/cia form of the word) come from? No need for the snark mate, I got the info from Josh Sawyer who's making the game Yosharian's Deadfire Builds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yosharian Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Companions have locked subclasses, you can't spec them out like you can a mercenary. Do we know this for certain? I know that some companions definitely do (Xoti's unique Priest and Monk subclasses, Pallegina's unique Paladin order etc.) but in the cases where no subclass has been specified (Edér for example) has it been stated that they won't be allowed to take one? Yes, Sawyer confirmed it 1 Yosharian's Deadfire Builds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerekKruger Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Yes, Sawyer confirmed it Okay thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yosharian Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 https://i.imgur.com/ycXcUrS.png Yosharian's Deadfire Builds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerekKruger Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 https://i.imgur.com/ycXcUrS.png Interesting that for Edér it states "no subclasses" under Fighter but not under Rogue. Has it been confirmed that he isn't able to take Rogue subclasses as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yosharian Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 https://i.imgur.com/ycXcUrS.png Interesting that for Edér it states "no subclasses" under Fighter but not under Rogue. Has it been confirmed that he isn't able to take Rogue subclasses as well? I wrote that, if it says no subclasses it means precisely that, for Rogue or Fighter =) Yosharian's Deadfire Builds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faustus2 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 (edited) I have an image that I made with the companion subclass info. It's in the companion info thread in general discussion. Offhand I can tell you Eder gets no subclass options. So, do you know that/if some companions are allowed subclasses while others are not? Where does your intelligence (the fbi/cia form of the word) come from? No need for the snark mate, I got the info from Josh Sawyer who's making the game I didn't intend to sound "snarky", I just was curious as to the source of your information (hence the gentle "intelligence (the fbi/cia form of the word)" usage). Peace Edited March 15, 2018 by Faustus2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boeroer Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 (edited) Yeah Josh said that on Tumblr. But it was some time ago - so maybe one or two things changed, but I don't think so. I still think it's a pity. Several subclasses would have caused no trouble. For example it doesn't matter much for Edér if he's a vanilla rogue or a Streetfighter. Preventing him from becoming an Assassin or Trickster I can understand though: just doesn't fit his character. With his Fighter part I'd say it wouldn't matter at all which subclass you'd pick - they would all be fine. Same with Aloth. Streetfighter and Assassin might be far fetched, but Trickster? Would fit. Edited March 15, 2018 by Boeroer 1 Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaruNi Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Yeah here's one of the Tumblr posts: https://jesawyer.tumblr.com/post/165191293231/hi-josh-i-was-wodnering-if-all-companions-will Seems needlessly limiting. Are they worried about balance issues? Wonder how Serafen will be a dual wielding gun barb with just the base class.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yosharian Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) Yeah here's one of the Tumblr posts: https://jesawyer.tumblr.com/post/165191293231/hi-josh-i-was-wodnering-if-all-companions-will Seems needlessly limiting. Are they worried about balance issues? Wonder how Serafen will be a dual wielding gun barb with just the base class.... Knowing Sawyer its less about balance and more about tone. It would harm Josh's delicate sensibilities if we were given the option to make Eder an Assassin. Semi-joking aside, Sawyer claimed there was something which made companions having subclasses available a complex thing to do mechanically, but he didn't go into detail. Edited March 16, 2018 by Yosharian Yosharian's Deadfire Builds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boeroer Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Actually Josh is all about balance... Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yosharian Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Actually Josh is all about balance... Yeah I didn't mean to imply that he wasn't, looking back at my sentence I worded it stupidly I merely meant to point out that Josh would probably dislike a system where you could make Eder an assassin. I remember his presentation where he talked about Pillars 1 companion stats. Yosharian's Deadfire Builds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boeroer Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Oops - now I see how I misread it. Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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