What Stat?

[Mocker22]

Hey guys silly question probably, what skill or attribute effects your ability to uncover hidden items. Tidefall and Ningauths grimoire are pissing me off atm.

[Messier-31]

Mechanics.

 

I'm not sure, but probably in order to find Ninagauth's Black Pages you need to have a map from Russetwood.

[Boeroer]

10 mechanics for Tidefall. That I know for sure. I believe it's also 10 for the black pages. And you have to be in scouting mode (aka stealth mode)! Else your skill check is reduced.

 

Things like resting bonuses or bonuses from items and scrolls work of course. So you can get away with 4 mechanics if you use all that if I'm not mistaken.

[Mocker22]

So Aloth has a base of 10 mechanics and I've even tried buffing it....W T F. I'm like 99.9999% sure I'm in the right spots, although its been a while.

[Boeroer]

Cail's Lair in Searing Falls. Go to his dwelling place. In the south there is the hidden stash with Tidefall. You have to be close and scout. Look - where the masked face sits here (south of "1"):


For the Black Pages maybe you have to watch the spirit conversation between Ninagauth and scholar and look at the drawn map first in order to "unlock" the hidden stash?

Edited November 20, 2017 by Boeroer

[Jojobobo]

Is anyone sure what Mechanics is needed to detect Gwyn's Band of Union in upscaled WM Pt II? I'm pretty sure upscaling affects lock difficulty, and so you'd think it would also effect hidden containers too.

[Mocker22]

Ya so for sure I've been in the right places. I went and did the little interaction with Ninagauth in Russetwood and got the map, didn't change anything. Have base 10 mechanics and have tried buffing past there too.....

 

This is super frustrating, while not exactly game breaking this kind of stuff drives me INSANE.

[dgray62]

As Boeroer indicated, I seem to recall that to find the Black Pages, you not only need to get the map at Russetwood, but actually view it. Otherwise, you'll never find the book. I don't think that mechanics is a factor here.

[Mocker22]

Thank you all for your replies. Figured some stuff out. As dgray62 says you need to actually look at the map, its not enough to just have it. Seems obvious now lol.

 

Tidefall.....um I got no clue. Finally got it by using the Caed Nua resting bonus to get up to 12 mechanics, but I'm sure one of the things I tried was a scroll to boost mechanics. Perhaps its just a bit buggy somehow. But anyways back on track....I even finally managed to get Deadfire items working heh.

[Jojobobo]

Is anyone sure what Mechanics is needed to detect Gwyn's Band of Union in upscaled WM Pt II? I'm pretty sure upscaling affects lock difficulty, and so you'd think it would also effect hidden containers too.

If anyone was interested, you don't need any mechanics at all really to find Gwyn's Band of Union (I tested with 4 Mechanics on an old save and still spotted it). However the door to get to it is 11 difficulty, so you need a mechanics of at least 9 to get access to it.

Edited December 5, 2017 by Jojobobo