Trump united the world...

[Chilloutman]

 

 

A very small group of people exploit a rather large group. No, obviously they won't want to give it away. But oh well... democracy. (Insert evil laughter here)

 

No one stops them. But our system strongly discourages it, so why should they?

who is discouraging you to give away your stuff? Why are you still talking about 'them'? (well I suppose your family may say you are idiot but still)

 

again, lets say I have business with 10 employees, how you going to 'convince' me to give it up?

 

What kind of business do you have? This is important.

 

And I'm not asking you to give it up, by no means. I encourage you to work harder in fact. But I ask you to change your motivations: work for te people, not for the profit.

 

I am not a people? My family are not people? And why it matters what business it is? so lets say farmer? it will be interesting

[Ben No.3]

^Do you have a job? In what ways do you contribute to your family or society? I mean, besides all these great ideas.

I help out at Oxfam. Sadly I can not work a lot, since well child labour and all that.

[Ben No.3]

 

 

 

A very small group of people exploit a rather large group. No, obviously they won't want to give it away. But oh well... democracy. (Insert evil laughter here)

 

No one stops them. But our system strongly discourages it, so why should they?

who is discouraging you to give away your stuff? Why are you still talking about 'them'? (well I suppose your family may say you are idiot but still)

 

again, lets say I have business with 10 employees, how you going to 'convince' me to give it up?

What kind of business do you have? This is important.

 

And I'm not asking you to give it up, by no means. I encourage you to work harder in fact. But I ask you to change your motivations: work for te people, not for the profit.

I am not a people? My family are not people? And why it matters what business it is? so lets say farmer? it will be interesting

then the land on which you build your farm is the people's. So, you do your work, every year. You keep what you need. The rest, you give away. In return, you get back all the goods you need but can't provide yourself with.

[Chilloutman]

 

 

 

 

A very small group of people exploit a rather large group. No, obviously they won't want to give it away. But oh well... democracy. (Insert evil laughter here)

 

No one stops them. But our system strongly discourages it, so why should they?

who is discouraging you to give away your stuff? Why are you still talking about 'them'? (well I suppose your family may say you are idiot but still)

 

again, lets say I have business with 10 employees, how you going to 'convince' me to give it up?

 

What kind of business do you have? This is important.

 

And I'm not asking you to give it up, by no means. I encourage you to work harder in fact. But I ask you to change your motivations: work for te people, not for the profit.

 

I am not a people? My family are not people? And why it matters what business it is? so lets say farmer? it will be interesting

 

then the land on which you build your farm is the people's. So, you do your work, every year. You keep what you need. The rest, you give away. In return, you get back all the goods you need but can't provide yourself with.

 

I AM EFFING PEOPLE YOU %%%%%%

 

got enough, i would get banned if this continue, well another one on ignore list

[Gfted1]

I help out at Oxfam. Sadly I can not work a lot, since well child labour and all that.

Huh, Wiki tells me that 15yo and up can work a 40 hour week in Germany. You should try that.

[Meshugger]

 

 

 

 

A very small group of people exploit a rather large group. No, obviously they won't want to give it away. But oh well... democracy. (Insert evil laughter here)

 

No one stops them. But our system strongly discourages it, so why should they?

who is discouraging you to give away your stuff? Why are you still talking about 'them'? (well I suppose your family may say you are idiot but still)

 

again, lets say I have business with 10 employees, how you going to 'convince' me to give it up?

What kind of business do you have? This is important.

 

And I'm not asking you to give it up, by no means. I encourage you to work harder in fact. But I ask you to change your motivations: work for te people, not for the profit.

I am not a people? My family are not people? And why it matters what business it is? so lets say farmer? it will be interesting

then the land on which you build your farm is the people's. So, you do your work, every year. You keep what you need. The rest, you give away. In return, you get back all the goods you need but can't provide yourself with.

 

 

Who is deciding on who needs what? Who is the people and who is not? What metrics will be used to quantify the needs a human being?

[Ben No.3]

 

I help out at Oxfam. Sadly I can not work a lot, since well child labour and all that.

Huh, Wiki tells me that 15yo and up can work a 40 hour week in Germany. You should try that.

Well I'm also quite keen on getting my school done. Those 40 affect those who go out of school and start to learn something specific, BUT just as a "regular" job you can not do that.

[Ben No.3]

 

then the land on which you build your farm is the people's. So, you do your work, every year. You keep what you need. The rest, you give away. In return, you get back all the goods you need but can't provide yourself with.

 

Let me but in since Chilloutman went to chill out

Is there anyone that will decide how much I need to keep or is it up to me? Will someone intervene if I keep 30%, 50%, 70%, 99%, 100%?

And on the other hand is there anyone who decide how much of things I cannot provide for myself I get? I just make a list? Someone else makes a list? If I make a list, will somoene verify and correct my list? If someone else makes then on what grounds he makes this list?

 

I help out at Oxfam. Sadly I can not work a lot, since well child labour and all that.

Huh, Wiki tells me that 15yo and up can work a 40 hour week in Germany. You should try that.

He is clearly 9 tops.

 

PS. Can a moderator cut out separate topic from this discussion?

Can it be named 2017 - a 1984 sequel by Ben No.3

You trust I will change the world this dramatically already in 2017?

 

Here's the thing... certain goods like heatlhcare, education, and basic living supplies, thus also basic food, shouldn't be used to make profits. So you couldn't sell them privately. This means that you can keep as much as you want, but there's no point in keeping more than you need. The more you give away, the more you get back. If you keep more than you need, then the food would either just rot, or you could try to sell it. But since there is an abundance of food production and thus no demand for more food (unless you are very specialised in very exotic food; but that wouldn't be basic food, so that wouldn't be affected in the first place), it is very unlikely that there will be a black market that is worth the risk.

 

 

Also, for an 9 year old, I'd say I'm holding up quite well against you guys. Quite telling that the proclaimed alt right can't even shut a small little child.

Edited January 23, 2017 by Ben No.3

[Ben No.3]

 

 

 

 

 

A very small group of people exploit a rather large group. No, obviously they won't want to give it away. But oh well... democracy. (Insert evil laughter here)No one stops them. But our system strongly discourages it, so why should they?

who is discouraging you to give away your stuff? Why are you still talking about 'them'? (well I suppose your family may say you are idiot but still)again, lets say I have business with 10 employees, how you going to 'convince' me to give it up?

What kind of business do you have? This is important.And I'm not asking you to give it up, by no means. I encourage you to work harder in fact. But I ask you to change your motivations: work for te people, not for the profit.

I am not a people? My family are not people? And why it matters what business it is? so lets say farmer? it will be interesting

then the land on which you build your farm is the people's. So, you do your work, every year. You keep what you need. The rest, you give away. In return, you get back all the goods you need but can't provide yourself with.

I AM EFFING PEOPLE YOU %%%%%%got enough, i would get banned if this continue, well another one on ignore list

So it is yours. By a margin. It belongs to everyone equally, it belongs to no one individually.

[Ben No.3]

 

The more you give away, the more you get back.

 

Now see, here you made a mistake and showed your true colors. So there will be someone who will force me to give more of what I produced and reduce the things I will get. Because it will always be that I gave to little and I take to much. We've been there bro.

Congratulations, you just implemented North Korean style of government

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If your rights are violated, if you are forced to do something against your will, you can always take the case to court. Here's something central that North Korea lacks: separation of power

 

My true colours? I just genuinely want to make the world a better place mate -.-

Edited January 23, 2017 by Ben No.3

[Gfted1]

Well I'm also quite keen on getting my school done. Those 40 affect those who go out of school and start to learn something specific, BUT just as a "regular" job you can not do that.

I see. Perhaps when you have your first actual real-world experience, then your opinions will evolve. Probably not.

[Wrath of Dagon]

 

^Do you have a job? In what ways do you contribute to your family or society? I mean, besides all these great ideas.

I help out at Oxfam. Sadly I can not work a lot, since well child labour and all that.

 

Well, that explains your ideas. I was wondering how anyone can be that naive.

[Ben No.3]

I'll just outline what I'm trying to say here... give me a little time...

[Gorth]

Skynet will take care of everything and provide for us

[francisbaud]

In a common cause against him. Worldwide thousands of people are on the streets, saying no to protectionism, to disrespect against women, to the empowerment of homophobes etc. There are those few supporting him... the right winged populists of Europe had a congress in Germany today. The congress had Ann equal numbers of visitors and protestors against it.

 

Trump said he'd give the power back to the people. Mr. Trump, you don't need to do that... we're just taking it back.

 

I think that a lot of people are supporting Trump world wide, but they're quieter and not necessarily going in the streets to show their support (as opposed to those who protest against him). One of the reasons why there is so much fuss about Trump in the countries that are US/nato oriented may be the fear of seeing the money stop pouring from US pockets to fund programs that benefit largely to EU / Japan / Korean and co.