Journalism and Bias in the Gaming Industry

[Nonek]

 

 

 

Illiterate morons, touch harsh.

 

Not really, you regularly call me stupid and have even claimed I have syphilis which has rotted my brain due to my relationships with  prostitutes (despite the fact syphilis is curable if treated early.) 

 

But guys Alum does makes several valid points, these are really about people making generalizations around articles and people trying to understand nuances.

 

I would encourage all of us to take this advice constructively.

 

 

You have accused me of being a liar, grandstanding, pursuing a false agenda, spewing rhetoric and various other things Bruce. 

 

Yes but the difference is you have demonstrated all those things, not all the time but particularly on the GG thread

 

 

No I haven't Bruce, I have debated honestly, made my opinion and position known and argued against false narratives. You are free to believe that I have grandstanded and spewed rhetoric but lied and pursued a false agenda, pursuant to your own self admitted reliance on facts i'll need to see some evidence for this.

[Nonek]

 

Basically, my concern with the casual dismissal of "hey, it's a game based on Slavic folklore, you can't have minorities or they will inevitably feel shoehorned in" is that, well, despite adolescent bull**** like TW1's sex cards, the writers at CD Projekt have largely proven to be decent storytellers. I think "no, it's impossible for them to write minority characters who don't feel tacked on" is selling them short. I'm pretty sure they could find a solution if they wanted to.

 

 

I can't speak for anybody else but I haven't stated that the game can't have minorities, as there already are many green, grey and so on, however it's perfectly valid for the darker skinned humans to find it hard to reach the Northern Kingdoms usually and especially during wartime. It's also perfectly valid if the designers choose not to include a demographic who are more than rare in that locale, to the point where Zerrikania is almost a myth to the common folk. If one finds this objectionable then one has a logical recourse, simply boycott the game.

 

Personally I choose to support the designers artistic vision and right to make a game without having to adhere to foreigners politically correct checklists. Then again I don't find it repellent to play a different race, gender, species or in a different culture in a game, and I certainly don't expect designers to make every protagonist an Englishman to appeal to me. In fact i'd be bored if they did, as i'm an Englishman in real life and seek something different and exotic from my escapism.

 

Such as a genetically engineered mutant whom is not technically of the human species anymore.

 

Edit: Off to barbecue some steaks, good afternoon.

Edited June 6, 2015 by Nonek

[Orogun01]

Basically, my concern with the casual dismissal of "hey, it's a game based on Slavic folklore, you can't have minorities or they will inevitably feel shoehorned in" is that, well, despite adolescent bull**** like TW1's sex cards, the writers at CD Projekt have largely proven to be decent storytellers. I think "no, it's impossible for them to write minority characters who don't feel tacked on" is selling them short. I'm pretty sure they could find a solution if they wanted to.

Yes, they can. Should they be forced to?

[luzarius]

despite adolescent bull**** like TW1's sex cards,

 

Aww, I loved Witcher one's sex cards, it just reminded me of things that us guys do in RL. I thought it was clever. 

[Lychnidos]

What if Zerrikanians are also white?

 

[aluminiumtrioxid]

 

Basically, my concern with the casual dismissal of "hey, it's a game based on Slavic folklore, you can't have minorities or they will inevitably feel shoehorned in" is that, well, despite adolescent bull**** like TW1's sex cards, the writers at CD Projekt have largely proven to be decent storytellers. I think "no, it's impossible for them to write minority characters who don't feel tacked on" is selling them short. I'm pretty sure they could find a solution if they wanted to.

Yes, they can. Should they be forced to?

 

 

I don't know, is a person trying to breach the subject of minority representation in gaming forcing anyone to do anything?

 

I mean, basically, some people come across as having this predicted chain of events that's inevitable to happen unless we push against the SJWs with all of our might oh my God do SOMETHING:

 

Step 1: Developer makes a game which features something socially conscious folks find objectionable.

Step 2: People talk about it on twitter! They're saying unkind things!

Step 3: ???

Step 4: CENSORSHIP ENSUES

 

Note that in these hypothetical scenarios, Step 3 is never really elaborated upon.

 

Whereas the more realistic chain of events would look more like this:

 

Step 1: Developer makes a game which features something socially conscious folks find objectionable.

Step 2: People talk about it on twitter! They're saying unkind things!

Step 3: After a few weeks, the discussion dies down because the Internet's attention span is comparable to that of a hamster.

Step 4: Nothing changes whatsoever.

Edited June 6, 2015 by aluminiumtrioxid

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

What if Zerrikanians are also white?

 

Then when humanity came from wherever they came in the conjunction, it was only a small amount of Slavs that made it over.

[Blarghagh]

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