dreamycat Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Does anyone know what to do/find in Cliaban Rilaq to complete this step ?
Sonntam Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Go up north. You shall find a looter camp, they will attack you and at this camp is what you need.
AlmightyO Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) (spoiler warning) Is it possible to actually hear what Eder's brother and the avatar of Eothas are talking about in a vision? I tried to get a reading on the battle artifact from Grieving mother and then from Lady Webb with exactly the same result: they show me a vision but without sound. Eder is asking me what were they talking about but I can only answer that I don't know. He's obviously upset about it. It completes the quest, but the quest text is saying something like: "he will never know the truth". This is obviously not a perfect way to solve it. Has anybody archieved different results? Edited March 31, 2015 by AlmightyO
dreamycat Posted March 31, 2015 Author Posted March 31, 2015 Well I've met the looters, but including the stash in their camp, I've found no quest item or whatsoever. Where did you find the quest item?
AlmightyO Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Well I've met the looters, but including the stash in their camp, I've found no quest item or whatsoever. Where did you find the quest item? Just press tab and look for a clickable space on the ground. The artifact is burried in the ground
C0ckerel Posted April 3, 2015 Posted April 3, 2015 (spoiler warning) Is it possible to actually hear what Eder's brother and the avatar of Eothas are talking about in a vision? I tried to get a reading on the battle artifact from Grieving mother and then from Lady Webb with exactly the same result: they show me a vision but without sound. Eder is asking me what were they talking about but I can only answer that I don't know. He's obviously upset about it. It completes the quest, but the quest text is saying something like: "he will never know the truth". This is obviously not a perfect way to solve it. Has anybody archieved different results? I am also curious about this. Has anyone found a different outcome to the one mentioned above?
PsychoBlonde Posted April 3, 2015 Posted April 3, 2015 (spoiler warning) Is it possible to actually hear what Eder's brother and the avatar of Eothas are talking about in a vision? I tried to get a reading on the battle artifact from Grieving mother and then from Lady Webb with exactly the same result: they show me a vision but without sound. Eder is asking me what were they talking about but I can only answer that I don't know. He's obviously upset about it. It completes the quest, but the quest text is saying something like: "he will never know the truth". This is obviously not a perfect way to solve it. Has anybody archieved different results? I am also curious about this. Has anyone found a different outcome to the one mentioned above? No, and that's actually the point of Eder's quest--that he'll never know why his brother decided what he decided. You can have a later conversation with Eder where you say something like "your mistake was waiting for someone else to tell you what was right", and he agrees with you, and says "I guess I just miss my brother". His quest is, literally, about *coming to terms with uncertainty*, not about getting answers. 3 Grand Rhetorist of the Obsidian OrderIf you appeal to "realism" about a video game feature, you are wrong. Go back and try again.
Voss Posted April 3, 2015 Posted April 3, 2015 There really isn't that much uncertainty, though. He (and his brother) could fight for their god, or their nation. His brother chose his god. Given that all Dyrwoodans are jerks, it isn't even much of a surprise. Of course, the gods are jerks too, but that never matters to believers.
C0ckerel Posted April 4, 2015 Posted April 4, 2015 (spoiler warning) Is it possible to actually hear what Eder's brother and the avatar of Eothas are talking about in a vision? I tried to get a reading on the battle artifact from Grieving mother and then from Lady Webb with exactly the same result: they show me a vision but without sound. Eder is asking me what were they talking about but I can only answer that I don't know. He's obviously upset about it. It completes the quest, but the quest text is saying something like: "he will never know the truth". This is obviously not a perfect way to solve it. Has anybody archieved different results? I am also curious about this. Has anyone found a different outcome to the one mentioned above? No, and that's actually the point of Eder's quest--that he'll never know why his brother decided what he decided. You can have a later conversation with Eder where you say something like "your mistake was waiting for someone else to tell you what was right", and he agrees with you, and says "I guess I just miss my brother". His quest is, literally, about *coming to terms with uncertainty*, not about getting answers. That may well be the case, but in the dialogue about the relic, at a key point I had the option to select a [Cipher] response, and two others, which were red and not selectable, saying [Requirement not met]. This rpg-mechanic at least suggests the possibility of another outcome...
PsychoBlonde Posted April 4, 2015 Posted April 4, 2015 Those options usually don't change the overall outcome, just maybe give you an extra line or two. In fact, sometimes those are more jerkass than the non-stat-bound responses. Grand Rhetorist of the Obsidian OrderIf you appeal to "realism" about a video game feature, you are wrong. Go back and try again.
Smorensky Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Well, Eder's quest kind of remains open, to a degree. So who knows, maybe we will get something more in the upcomming sequels But yes in general, it makes him come to terms with what happened. "We must all fear evil men. But there is a kind of evil we must fear most and that is the indifference of good men!"
KingNee Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 There really isn't that much uncertainty, though. He (and his brother) could fight for their god, or their nation. His brother chose his god. Given that all Dyrwoodans are jerks, it isn't even much of a surprise. Of course, the gods are jerks too, but that never matters to believers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu37VpwaVAA Pretty much. - How can I live my life if I can't even tell good from evil? - Eh, they're both fine choices. Whatever floats your boat.
gkathellar Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 There really isn't that much uncertainty, though. He (and his brother) could fight for their god, or their nation. His brother chose his god. Given that all Dyrwoodans are jerks, it isn't even much of a surprise. Of course, the gods are jerks too, but that never matters to believers. Assuming it was their god. Also: all Dyrwoodans are jerks? wat If I'm typing in red, it means I'm being sarcastic. But not this time. Dark green, on the other hand, is for jokes and irony in general.
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