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[Volourn]

Embarassing CLE lost to IND.

[Leferd]

Embarassing CLE lost to IND.

 

Yep. How could Cleveland lose the NBA Championship Belt to Indiana?? Indiana!

 

http://nbachampionshipbelt.com/

[Daulmakan]

This made me smile today:

 

 

[Leferd]

Greek Freak!! He has that genuine naïveté, optimism, and potential that makes it impossible to not root for a guy like that.

[Guard Dog]

Got the Grizz/Nets game on the radio now. The Grizz are in total control and still going strong as the season closes in on the 3rd call marker.

[Guard Dog]

For the ream with the 3rd best record and 1st in the west the Grizz got no love from the All Star game. Gasol was the only one to get in and he's not even our best player.

[Leferd]

For the ream with the 3rd best record and 1st in the west the Grizz got no love from the All Star game. Gasol was the only one to get in and he's not even our best player.

 

No. Memphis got the guy that deserves to go. Who are you going to take out to include Z-Bo or Conley?

 

Kobe, Anthony Davis, and Griffin are out.  Boogie Cousins, Lillard, and Nowitzki were their injury replacements. All three deserve to go based on either personal achievements or combination of both stats and winning teams.

 

NO. PLAYER (TEAM) POS. HT. WT. BIRTHDATE FROM

32 *^ Blake Griffin (Clippers) F 6-10 251 03/16/89 Oklahoma/USA

33 * Marc Gasol (Grizzlies) C 7-1 265 01/29/85 Barcelona, Spain

24 *^ Kobe Bryant (Lakers) G 6-6 212 08/23/78 Lower Merion HS (PA)/USA

23 *^ Anthony Davis (Pelicans) C-F 6-10 220 03/11/93 Kentucky/USA

30 * Stephen Curry (Warriors) G 6-3 190 03/14/88 Davidson/USA

12 LaMarcus Aldridge (Trail Blazers) F 6-11 240 07/19/85 Texas/USA

15 # DeMarcus Cousins (Kings) C 6-11 270 08/13/90 Kentucky/USA

21 Tim Duncan (Spurs) F 6-11 250 04/25/76 Wake Forest/U.S. Virgin Islands

35 Kevin Durant (Thunder) F 6-9 240 09/29/88 Texas/USA

13 James Harden (Rockets) G 6-5 225 08/26/89 Arizona State/USA

0 Damian Lillard (Blazers) G 6-3 195 07/05/90 Weber State/USA

41 Dirk Nowitzki (Mavericks) F 7-0 245 06/19/78 DJK Wurzburg/Germany

3 Chris Paul (Clippers) G 6-0 175 05/06/85 Wake Forest/USA

11 # Klay Thompson (Warriors) G 6-7 215 02/08/90 Washington State/USA

0 Russell Westbrook (Thunder) G 6-3 200 11/12/88 UCLA/USA

 

* – denotes a starter via fan voting

# – denotes first-time selection

^ – denotes injured and will not participate

 

PS

 

Memphis is not #1 in the West.

 

PPS

 

The 3pt. Shootout is stacked. Deepest competition I've seen.

 

Vegas Odds:

 

Stephen Curry (GS) -- 13/4

Kyle Korver (ATL) -- 15/4

Klay Thompson (GS) -- 4/1

Kyrie Irving (CLE) -- 4/1

J.J Redick (LAC) -- 5/1

Wesley Matthews (POR) -- 6/1

Marco Belinelli (SAN) -- 6/1

James Harden (HOU) -- 8/1

 

At 4-1, Klay would be the best value bet.

Edited February 14, 2015 by Leferd

[Guard Dog]

No they are 2nd in the west, 1st in the Southwest Division

 

I think Randolph should have gotten in as well as Gasol. Z-bo is 7th in 3pt, 4th in rebounds, 4th in DDs and he's AHEAD of Gasol in 2 of those. At least our Gasol anyway. 

[Hurlshort]

Stephen Curry probably doesn't win the 3 point competition, he seems to to better under real pressure.  

[Leferd]

I got Sharks tickets on the line. Come on Curry!!!

[Leferd]

All is right in the world again. Curry is the best shooter in the world again.

 

And I scored free tickets to a San Jose Sharks game.

[Leferd]

Flurry of deadline trades. (Yawn)

 

-OKC manages to stay out of luxury tax again.

-KG back to Minny.

-Dragic to Miami.

-Reggie Jackson and Tayshaun Prince to Detroit.

-Isaiah Thomas to Boston.

-Kendrick Perkins to LAC.

-Brandon Knight to PHX.

-MCW, Tyler Ennis, Miles Plumlee to Bucks.

-Professor Andre Miller, Ph.D to Sac.

-Ramon Sessions to DC.

 

Dubs stay pat to be 2K15 Champs.

[Guard Dog]

Chris Bosh is out for rest of the year.

[Leferd]

Derrick Rose to undergo surgery to repair torn meniscus discovered today after MRI.

 

This sucks.

 

Edited February 25, 2015 by Leferd

[Volourn]

Lebronnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn Jamessssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

\P.S. he should win his 10th straight MVP but he likely will be screwed over again.

\

 

The facts don't lie... AGAIN..

 

 

Lebron simply makes every team he plays for better. PERIOD.

 

I remember this time last year MIA was cruising along to their 4th striaght Finals appearance and I remember also CLE was such a laughing sgtock there was talk of their overrated guard leaving ASAP now their fortunes are reversed.

 

Coincidence? I think not.

[Leferd]

Nah.

 

 

Steph got this.

[Volourn]

His team is stacked. Don't count. But, he probably will since they have the best record.

 

You take Curry from GS they still great team, you take james from CLE you get... the last 4 seasons...

[Leferd]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/curryst01/on-off/2015/

 

Warriors are +16.8 pts per 100 possessions with Curry on the court

Warriors are -0.6 pts per 100 possessions with Curry off the court.

Net total of +17.4 pts.

 

115.9 Offensive Efficiency

99.1 Defensive Efficiency

 

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01/on-off/2015/

 

Cavs are +9.9 pts per 100 possessions with Lebron on the court.

Cavs are -6.2 pts per 100 possessions with Lebron off the court.

Net total of +16.1 pts. 

 

115.2 Offensive Efficiency

105.2 Defensive Efficiency

 

Actually, it's closer than I thought. Warriors are average without Curry. Cavs are terrible without Lebron. Dubs are the better team overall and Curry the better player this year.

[Volourn]

Curry is playing with better players so of course his stats are better. Just look at last night. CLE won easily, Lebron played well but still ended up with 9 turnovers and sub .50% shooting because he is has to go to extemes to make up for his lesser mates. Curry can lazily pass the pall and pick up assists withotu trying and other teams have to guard other players.

 

FACT: If James was on GS they'd be kicking ass and be even better.

 

FACT: If Curry was on CLE, they'd be worse than they are now.

[kgambit]

Curry is playing with better players so of course his stats are better.

 

Not based on the on/off figures he isn't.

 

Golden State Warriors On/Off

 

Thompson  +10.1*

Green  +12.6*

Barnes +0.7*

Bogut +7.8*

 

Igoudala +1.6

Lee +0.1

 

Cleveland Cavaliers ON/Off

 

Irving +13.0*

Mozgov +13.9*   (based on time with Cleveland only)

Smith +4.2*   (based on time with Cleveland only)

Love +7.5*

 

Shumpert +8.6   (based on time with Cleveland only)

Thompson +2.2

 

 

Looks like LeBron's supporting cast is better based on that metric.  Care to try again?

Edited February 25, 2015 by kgambit

[ShadySands]

Without even looking at the stats I would say Love and Irving are both better than the next best guy on GSW

[Leferd]

I'll comment after work and the Cavs v Dubs tonight.

[Hurlshort]

I'd say GSW has more depth, although I don't know enough about the Cavs to really say for sure.

[Volourn]

"Without even looking at the stats I would say Love and Irving are both better than the next best guy on GSW"

 

L0L Bigger names maybe but better? Nah. These are guys who can't even make the playoffs when they are the main guy. They leech off James.

\\

But, the argument is moot.  Barringa  total breakdown Curry is winning MVP.

 

A.. Team with way better record.

 

B. People simply don't want James to win MVPs anymore. He has 4  and this new age where everyone has to win an award since it's 'not fair' otherwise. James should ahve like 10 by now.

 

C. James' stats are hurt by playing on crappy team with crappy players.

 

D. As be, it would just be 'boring' for James to win yet again. Plus, expectations for him ar ebeyond ridiculous that if ever wants to win another MVP he is gonna need his team to win 70 games and he'll need to average 30 points, 10 assists, 10 rebounds,  0TO, and 60% shooting from 3 point range. LMAO

 

 

Everyone knows that James is the best player in the league and he is the most valuable. PERIOD.

 

But, that's boring so people don't want to admit the truth.

 

The guy has the most assists EVER by a forward   and he's only friggin' 30.

 

HOLY MOLY!!!

 

FACT: If GS had a chance to trade Curry for James straight up they would do it no questions asked.

Edited February 26, 2015 by Volourn

[Leferd]

Volo,

 

No.

 

I’ve already demonstrated raw numbers depicting what happens when both Curry and Lebron are on and off the court for their respective teams.

 

Curry has a greater positive impact than does Lebron. No knock, as these two have greater impact on their team’s performance by a wide margin than any other players in the league. This includes Harden, Durant, Westbrook, Gasol, Z-Bo.

 

As far as the talent disparity, look at all the preseason predictions by both Vegas and the Experts. Golden State received very little love, and the Cavs were the odds on favorite to win the title. Read my original post on this thread. http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/68989-pro-hoops-2k14-2k15/?p=1523385

 

Here’s ESPN: http://espn.go.com/nba/notebook/_/page/nba1415/2014-15-nba-champion-predictions

 

Of the 28 “pundits,” 14 chose Cleveland. 1 chose  Golden State (and he happens to be a local Bay Area writer).

 

Dubs over/under for the season was 50 ½ games. Golden State was 30-1 to win the chip.

Cleveland’s over/under was 59. They were 3-2 favorites to be champs.

 

Curry and the Warriors are absolutely crushing these predictions while Cleveland is severely under-performing against expectation. How can Lebron be MVP when:

 

A) He's having a down year

B) His team this season is not even going to come close to the over/under.