Japanese scientists develop a 'thinking' robot

[Gorth]

There are things we won't want AI/robots to do for us, because those are human things which we will cherish as part of what it means to be human.

Fisto...

[HoonDing]

Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind.

[Walsingham]

Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind.

 

Because it would be a collossal waste of time, when you can HIRE a human mind for about 30 bucks a day.

[Lexx]

Maybe you create such a robot and then you are disappointed, because he is a moron.

[HoonDing]

As long as it's nice to look at...

 

[Walsingham]

As long as it's nice to look at...

 

 

[Orogun01]

Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind.

 

Because it would be a collossal waste of time, when you can HIRE a human mind for about 30 bucks a day.

remember that most human minds are very stupid.

[Humodour]

 

Indeed. And until you stop posting me links to stories about expert systems rather than the kind of AI you've been waffling about, maybe it is YOU who should keep quiet.

 

Um, you asked me what the use of artificial intelligence was, and I showed you examples with links.

 

For example, you doubted we could create an AI that could do useful science. I directed you to research projects which already do that!

 

Expert system or not, much of the argument from you and Morgoth in this thread has been ignorant claims that "AI can't do x" or "building an AI that can do x is too difficult for humans to achieve any time soon". So I think that showing you counter-examples of AI's that already accomplish these tasks is an appropriate response to establish the most basic capabilities a fully learning AI would have at its disposal, no?

 

If you don't understand what you're talking about

Yeah, right. Reading science articles all day makes you understand things so much better than us plebs.

 

Well that is a measure of me being informed on the topic, along with being exposed so frequently to academics in the information sciences. You two are NOT informed on the matter. You know little about AI or the latest advances in the field, so I think it's about right that I call you both out (with detailed counterexamples) for making inaccurate sweeping proclamations about the futility of the field.

[Walsingham]

This may be as much a disagreemebnt over semantics. You cannot simply brush aside the pejorative 'expert system'. Because there is a world, WORLDS, of difference. An expert system is a dedicated procedure oriented on a task given it by a human. All you've described to me so far are complex expert systems.

 

Conversely, what you are evangelising - and I can't really imagine why - is true AI. But as I've already asked, what is the point of true AI? What is the point of a genius if it's efforts are oriented on possibly alien lines? Frittered away on staring at dancing bees?

 

And don't simply assume we are techno-savages because you read New Scientist. The problem is that you are entranced by the infinite possiblities of computer science, without recognising that any real world advances will cost lives and treasure. None of it, however possible in the abstract, will happen just because you think it's awesome.