True crime 1

[Walsingham]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/cri...orse-boxes.html

 

24 slaves, some held for 15 years, found at Travellers site near Leighton Buzzard. Police describe some as 'filth encrusted' with faeces, and dressed in rags.

 

Obviously someone in that community had a shred of decency, hence the raids. But what about the others? You can't hide 24 people beyond the wit of suspicion. Not in a bunch of temporary structures.

[Nepenthe]

Typical monday, you're enjoying the cuppa your slave just prepared for you when a couple of hundred police officers hit your campsite in a Professional-style "bring everybody" raid. Fascists.

 

(that's really ****ed up.)

Edited September 12, 2011 by Nepenthe

[Walsingham]

Yeah, man. **** tha polis!

[Morgoth]

Slavery? Keeping and starving people like dogs? In the middle of the Great Empire of Britannia?

 

Why am I not surprised at all?

[Malcador]

Proper people do it to their family members.

[Walsingham]

Slavery? Keeping and starving people like dogs? In the middle of the Great Empire of Britannia?

 

Why am I not surprised at all?

 

I don't know. Are you operating under the impression that normal British people endorse slavery?

 

You jackass.

[Nepenthe]

Slavery? Keeping and starving people like dogs? In the middle of the Great Empire of Britannia?

 

Why am I not surprised at all?

 

I don't know. Are you operating under the impression that normal British people endorse slavery?

 

You jackass.

He's just sore the British Empire outlasted the Austrian one.

[Malcador]

That and it's easy to wind up the British. Be glad he didn't insult their royalty

[Morgoth]

Like I give a damn about the old Austrian Empire. We're better off today wothout those eastern European suckups anyway.

 

Seriously, how can you keep 24 slaves in such condition without noticing anybody? Are such methods still accepted among British society? Must also explain the British Fritz case, where social workers strolled around and "didn't notice anything suspicious".

 

But that's not important. Important is only chanting

 

FOR THE QUEEN AND HER GLORY!!!!

[Malcador]

Well, people like to mind their business, generally. In London, well they prefer to ignore your existence entirely. Interesting story though.

[Walsingham]

Seriously, how can you keep 24 slaves in such condition without noticing anybody? Are such methods still accepted among British society? Must also explain the British Fritz case, where social workers strolled around and "didn't notice anything suspicious".

 

Are you drunk or something? I mentioned this in the OP.

 

Or have you just not read the article or watched the video? It wasn't a normal British community. Gotta love the little kid giving out to the police as slaves are being lead away to freedom.

[Morgoth]

Are you drunk or something?

That's pretty strong, coming from a Brit...

 

It wasn't a normal British community.

I'm sure you're now gonna tell me what a "normal" British community is like.

[Nepenthe]

I think explaining "normal" to you would be kind of like explaining "blue" to somebody who's been blind from birth...

[Malcador]

Well it is a fair question to ask. Maybe they all like cricket and tea ?

[Nepenthe]

Well it is a fair question to ask. Maybe they all like cricket and tea ?

That's a bit of a sticky wicket, isn't it?

[Raithe]

For those who might not have actually recognised the term it was a "traveller's site"

Traveller's is the catch all term over here for the collected "irish (many generations ago) tinkers/gypsy families /thieving, littering gits" who roam around in a pseudo-nomadic lifestyle.

 

Not to stereotype them, I've met some who are perfectly nice folks if you treat them as everybody else and earn their friendship.

The trouble is, I've also met plenty of the other sort who set up camp on the common, trash the place, leave shattered beer bottles and such around to injure the locals dogs, steal the milk from your doorstep, act bolshy when you find them trying to get up the sidewalk of your house, and then complain about human rights abuses when the police come to move them on from where they're illegally camped.

 

So, not exactly the "common / normal" of the UK population.

[Malcador]

Well them, sensible question answered sensibly.

[Nonek]

Apparently twenty eight people had previously escaped from the camp over the last few years and reported the situation, one has to wonder what the local constabulary were doing.

[Nepenthe]

For those who might not have actually recognised the term it was a "traveller's site"

Traveller's is the catch all term over here for the collected "irish (many generations ago) tinkers/gypsy families /thieving, littering gits" who roam around in a pseudo-nomadic lifestyle.

 

Not to stereotype them, I've met some who are perfectly nice folks if you treat them as everybody else and earn their friendship.

The trouble is, I've also met plenty of the other sort who set up camp on the common, trash the place, leave shattered beer bottles and such around to injure the locals dogs, steal the milk from your doorstep, act bolshy when you find them trying to get up the sidewalk of your house, and then complain about human rights abuses when the police come to move them on from where they're illegally camped.

 

So, not exactly the "common / normal" of the UK population.

See the movie 'Snatch' for a visual explanation of this.

[Gorgon]

Pikeys are slavers as well. I you learn something new every day.

[Walsingham]

Apparently twenty eight people had previously escaped from the camp over the last few years and reported the situation, one has to wonder what the local constabulary were doing.

 

Holy crap. Where did you read that?

 

I know I worked opposite a 'traveller' site many years ago. Bloke used to spang the crap out of his wife. We called it in at least three times. Police NEVER turned up. Thier kids threw bricks through the office windows, injured my colleague's face. Police never turned up. Eventually, local businesses hired private security. Not sure what they did but the worst offenders moved on.

 

I genuinely don't understand how anyone can defend criminality as an ethnic choice. Or rather, if you can then why the mafia/'Ndrangheta/triads don't use the argument is quite beyond me.

 

"Extorting money from local businesses is a practice rooted in generations of ethnic history. You racist."

[Nepenthe]

I genuinely don't understand how anyone can defend criminality as an ethnic choice. Or rather, if you can then why the mafia/'Ndrangheta/triads don't use the argument is quite beyond me.

 

"Extorting money from local businesses is a practice rooted in generations of ethnic history. You racist."

Because they are not really criminals! It's just racist stereotypes! And even if they occasionally commit a crime or two, it's still because you're a racist! (At least that's what the local pravda is trying to ram down my throat).

[Hurlshort]

Well with the popularity of My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding, they are all going to become celebrities and get paid just for existing. That should cut down on the crime rate.

[Nepenthe]

Well with the popularity of My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding, they are all going to become celebrities and get paid just for existing. That should cut down on the crime rate.

Anecdotal: the local gypsies (who are not Irish travelers, but actual Roma) are rather heavily involved in the local race horse business (not all of them mind). One of our process servers told that their houses were some of the most impressive ones he'd ever visisted - and he'd been there in a professional capacity. Not necessarily an extrapolation from this, but as a rule, throwing money at people won't make them go straight. They'll just do it from cadillac escalades.