Morgoth Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Does the US-UK imperial axis really want to ignite a new Great War? Goddamn somebody break up the NATO already. Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Not sure if serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgon Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Rumors like this are immensely beneficial to forcing the Ghaddafi loyalist into giving up, or giving a lot more than they would otherwise consider in a permanent settlement. Also remember that the scope of the any military engagement is quite small in comparison to Afghanistan or Iraq. It might be best to just get it over with. I mean we know from the start that there is no political will to occupy and do nation building afterward, which might well prove to be a healthy attitude. Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted July 11, 2011 Author Share Posted July 11, 2011 Nation building? What are you talking about? The NATO under US leadership went into this war thinking it will be quickly over, but it turns out the situation is getting more complicated and they may send in ground forces. Things then get really ugly, and there's no way out withing many years. It's just that those imbeciles in DC and elsewhere don't learn. And they don't have the capacity to admit it, because there's nothing worse for Hillary Clinton & Co to admit that they politically lost a war. Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 If this is serious, then I hope you're all aware that RT is pretty much a direct mouthpiece for Russian propaganda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted July 11, 2011 Author Share Posted July 11, 2011 If this is serious, then I hope you're all aware that RT is pretty much a direct mouthpiece for Russian propaganda. If it is, it's quite good. Better than Fox News and CNN for certain. Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosbjerg Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 I have to say that I've seen some surprisingly good journalism from that channel as well. But there's also a lot of EU and US bashing too, which seems a little propaganda'ish. Fortune favors the bald. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 (edited) It's nice if they have some quality stuff as well. You can check here for what I was referencing. FWIW, I use BBC for my world news usually. Edited July 11, 2011 by Purkake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 (edited) RT's slant is a bit too much at times, just have to sift through/ignore it. Isn't this thing more due to France and UK, though ? So..the US is engaging on some grand scheme to start WW3, hm, good to know. Edited July 11, 2011 by Malcador Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfted1 Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Nation building? What are you talking about? The NATO under US leadership went into this war thinking it will be quickly over, but it turns out the situation is getting more complicated and they may send in ground forces. Things then get really ugly, and there's no way out withing many years. It's just that those imbeciles in DC and elsewhere don't learn. And they don't have the capacity to admit it, because there's nothing worse for Hillary Clinton & Co to admit that they politically lost a war. C'mon, pay attention. This is the UK and Frances war. At least get the basics right. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted July 11, 2011 Author Share Posted July 11, 2011 Nation building? What are you talking about? The NATO under US leadership went into this war thinking it will be quickly over, but it turns out the situation is getting more complicated and they may send in ground forces. Things then get really ugly, and there's no way out withing many years. It's just that those imbeciles in DC and elsewhere don't learn. And they don't have the capacity to admit it, because there's nothing worse for Hillary Clinton & Co to admit that they politically lost a war. C'mon, pay attention. This is the UK and Frances war. At least get the basics right. So you're saying the US has no involvement at all? C'mon, pay attention. Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 "If LoF did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him." - Me, now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted July 11, 2011 Author Share Posted July 11, 2011 Ya know, we can't all swim into the same direction. It would make discussion pointless. But maybe people around here like it that way. Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 (edited) Don't mind me, I'm just trying to draw a humorous parallel between your post and the late poster known as "Lord of Flies" general style of posts. I welcome thoughtful discussion, not enough to take part in it, though . Edited July 11, 2011 by Purkake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted July 11, 2011 Author Share Posted July 11, 2011 So you think the NATO are impeccable angels? Really, the Cold war is over, so dismantle it. Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfted1 Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Nation building? What are you talking about? The NATO under US leadership went into this war thinking it will be quickly over, but it turns out the situation is getting more complicated and they may send in ground forces. Things then get really ugly, and there's no way out withing many years. It's just that those imbeciles in DC and elsewhere don't learn. And they don't have the capacity to admit it, because there's nothing worse for Hillary Clinton & Co to admit that they politically lost a war. C'mon, pay attention. This is the UK and Frances war. At least get the basics right. So you're saying the US has no involvement at all? C'mon, pay attention. *sigh* Id love to pay attention to your inane rambling but you fall on your face right out of the gate. Lets review: The NATO under US leadership... So lets start out easy, whats wrong with the above statement? Thats right, we arent leading this one. Now lets examine this piece of work: It's just that those imbeciles in DC and elsewhere don't learn. What, pray tell, should we have learned from the actions of France and the UK on this matter? "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 So you think the NATO are impeccable angels? Really, the Cold war is over, so dismantle it. I think that I don't want to partake of this discussion. I do however like making side notes of the informatory and often humorous nature. I hope you won't hold that against me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted July 11, 2011 Author Share Posted July 11, 2011 You can turn and twist it whatever way you want, France and UK are just the little lapdogs. It is an US lead mission (war). Pay some attention and do proper research. Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfted1 Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 I see. Well, with ironclad debate skill like that I guess Ill just have to widthdraw. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgon Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Nation building? What are you talking about? The NATO under US leadership went into this war thinking it will be quickly over, but it turns out the situation is getting more complicated and they may send in ground forces. Things then get really ugly, and there's no way out withing many years. It's just that those imbeciles in DC and elsewhere don't learn. And they don't have the capacity to admit it, because there's nothing worse for Hillary Clinton & Co to admit that they politically lost a war. No, NATO went into this war unwilling to commit to anything but air strikes, well knowing that their part in it would only be to provide the rebels with the advantage. In this case the lessons of Iraq and Afghanistan which are in fact first in everyone's minds are preventing a quick solution. Ghaddafi forces are tiny compared and would quickly crumble. Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted July 11, 2011 Author Share Posted July 11, 2011 Man, why isn't the NATO then in Syria, Jemen etc. Lot's of atrocities going on there, too. But no mention in the mainstream. Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted July 11, 2011 Author Share Posted July 11, 2011 Over three months of bombardements and Gadaffi still has not relinquished, that's some dip**** military doing their job there. Could be indeed the demilitarized UK RAF (Austerity measures, of course) that can't get anything properly done. Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgon Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Because this was practical and Syria isn't. It's opportunism as much as idealism. Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted July 11, 2011 Author Share Posted July 11, 2011 You mean, the oil? Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgon Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 No, just that it's doable without risking upsetting a hornet's nest. The Syrians are getting the raw end of the 'Arab spring'. No one is coming to give them self determination on a silver platter. That's just how it is. Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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