Rosbjerg Posted December 2, 2010 Posted December 2, 2010 Finally I am one of the most liberal, open minded person you will meet. I however stand by my convictions once a view has been formed. If that makes me close minded because I draw from my personal experiences, learned knowledge and I point out facts you, or others, don't want to discuss/acknowledge that's not my issue. Having to point that out really isn't good for such an argument... Also, firmly holding to ones convictions once they've been formed, isn't exactly the definition of open-mindedness.. but whatever.. Fortune favors the bald.
TheHarlequin Posted December 3, 2010 Posted December 3, 2010 Finally I am one of the most liberal, open minded person you will meet. I however stand by my convictions once a view has been formed. If that makes me close minded because I draw from my personal experiences, learned knowledge and I point out facts you, or others, don't want to discuss/acknowledge that's not my issue. Having to point that out really isn't good for such an argument... Also, firmly holding to ones convictions once they've been formed, isn't exactly the definition of open-mindedness.. but whatever.. He wanted to judge me out of the blue without knowing me so.. *shrugs* but generally I agree with your point. First I never said my mind couldn't be changed. I simply hold my convictions until proven to my satisfaction I should do otherwise. Isn't that what we all do? Let me put it this way. When I was a child I never had spinach that I could recall until I was 6 or 7. Saw popey on the cartoons ate it all the time thus was even biased by that thinking i'd prob like it and was open to the idea. I recall trying it for the first time and found it absolutely disgusting. Never touched it again. Years later woke up one day and decided to try it again. Loved it, change my mind and been eating it ever since. I know someone is going to take this analogy and distort it, over analyze to all hell but whatever... World of Darkness News http://www.wodnews.net --- "I cannot profess to be a theologian; but it seems to me that Christians who believe in a super human Satan have got themselves into a logical impasse with regard to their own religion. For either God can not prevent the mischief of Satan, in which case he is not omnipotent; or else He could do so if he wished, but will not, in which case He is not benevolent. Fortunately, being a pagan witch, I am not called upon to solve this problem." - Doreen Valiente
Volourn Posted December 3, 2010 Posted December 3, 2010 "Finally I am one of the most liberal, open minded person you will meet. " If you act in real life the way you do on forums, this simply is not true. You are the total opposite of being open minded. Nothing wrong with that, but just admit to it instead of trying to pretend you are something you are not. You are one of the most closeminded extremist personalities I have ever seen on the net, and that says a lot consideirng the people who tend to use the net. L0L DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
Walsingham Posted December 3, 2010 Posted December 3, 2010 The only thing I got crammed down my throat from Christians about christmas was that I had to take a break from being mean, be nice to my family, and help poor people. I can practically feel the evil rolling out of me in waves as I say that. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
Arkan Posted December 4, 2010 Posted December 4, 2010 The only thing I got crammed down my throat from Christians about christmas was that I had to take a break from being mean, be nice to my family, and help poor people. I can practically feel the evil rolling out of me in waves as I say that. Yeah, but the rest of the year, WGAS? "Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." - Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials "I have also been slowly coming to the realisation that knowledge and happiness are not necessarily coincident, and quite often mutually exclusive" - meta
Calax Posted December 4, 2010 Posted December 4, 2010 The only thing I got crammed down my throat from Christians about christmas was that I had to take a break from being mean, be nice to my family, and help poor people. I can practically feel the evil rolling out of me in waves as I say that. Honestly, I think that this is kinda hypocritical to the holiday that you have to be extra special nice only in this month, while the other 11 months you can be a complete jackass. The only thing really crammed down my throat about christmas is the midnight servicese at church that I was dragged to. Victor of the 5 year fan fic competition! Kevin Butler will awesome your face off.
TheHarlequin Posted December 4, 2010 Posted December 4, 2010 "Finally I am one of the most liberal, open minded person you will meet. " If you act in real life the way you do on forums, this simply is not true. You are the total opposite of being open minded. Nothing wrong with that, but just admit to it instead of trying to pretend you are something you are not. You are one of the most closeminded extremist personalities I have ever seen on the net, and that says a lot consideirng the people who tend to use the net. L0L I repeat myself; I simply hold my convictions until proven to my satisfaction I should do otherwise. Isn't that what we all do? World of Darkness News http://www.wodnews.net --- "I cannot profess to be a theologian; but it seems to me that Christians who believe in a super human Satan have got themselves into a logical impasse with regard to their own religion. For either God can not prevent the mischief of Satan, in which case he is not omnipotent; or else He could do so if he wished, but will not, in which case He is not benevolent. Fortunately, being a pagan witch, I am not called upon to solve this problem." - Doreen Valiente
Hurlshort Posted December 4, 2010 Posted December 4, 2010 The only thing I got crammed down my throat from Christians about christmas was that I had to take a break from being mean, be nice to my family, and help poor people. I can practically feel the evil rolling out of me in waves as I say that. Honestly, I think that this is kinda hypocritical to the holiday that you have to be extra special nice only in this month, while the other 11 months you can be a complete jackass. The only thing really crammed down my throat about christmas is the midnight servicese at church that I was dragged to. While I agree there is a ton of hypocritical Christians out there, I'd say one of the reasons Christmas is singled out instead of the other 11 months is that it is typically the dead of winter. This is a difficult time for a lot of reasons, and so extending some extra courtesy goes a long way. I find it more bothersome that a lot of Christians seem to only be Christian on Sunday, while the other 6 days are a party That is why I have a good deal more respect for the Muslim friends I know, they are praying 5 times a day, every day. They are a lot more committed.
Walsingham Posted December 4, 2010 Posted December 4, 2010 I don't think it's hypocritical. Being nice all the time just isn't sustainable. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
Gorgon Posted December 5, 2010 Posted December 5, 2010 I actually got physically ill when a colleague started decorating our workspace with Christmas junk. I have violently hated Christmas since about the age of 18. Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all.
Darth InSidious Posted December 5, 2010 Posted December 5, 2010 "However for the past 1700 yrs or so its been crammed down our throat as the birth of the biblical jesus." I dunno about you, but I haven't been around for 1700 years so it hasn't been'forced' down my throat nearly that long. Clearly failed at history. This, coming from you? The ironing is delicious. The only thing I got crammed down my throat from Christians about christmas was that I had to take a break from being mean, be nice to my family, and help poor people. I can practically feel the evil rolling out of me in waves as I say that. LOOTER! COMMUnISt LOOtER This particularly rapid, unintelligible patter isn't generally heard, and if it is, it doesn't matter.
Meshugger Posted December 5, 2010 Posted December 5, 2010 Our HQ doesn't really give a shoe. We have a christmas-tree and other decorations. No one has complained about it either since they know that the argument itself is ridicolous and it would make them look stupid. Yes, it is a multinational company. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy
TheHarlequin Posted December 5, 2010 Posted December 5, 2010 "However for the past 1700 yrs or so its been crammed down our throat as the birth of the biblical jesus." I dunno about you, but I haven't been around for 1700 years so it hasn't been'forced' down my throat nearly that long. Clearly failed at history. This, coming from you? The ironing is delicious. While my tone has been disputed I have yet to see one historical fact I have posted been said was incorrect. So please do enlighten me... assuming you can. If I am in error on something history wise I certainly have a vested interest in such to know. World of Darkness News http://www.wodnews.net --- "I cannot profess to be a theologian; but it seems to me that Christians who believe in a super human Satan have got themselves into a logical impasse with regard to their own religion. For either God can not prevent the mischief of Satan, in which case he is not omnipotent; or else He could do so if he wished, but will not, in which case He is not benevolent. Fortunately, being a pagan witch, I am not called upon to solve this problem." - Doreen Valiente
TheHarlequin Posted December 5, 2010 Posted December 5, 2010 Our HQ doesn't really give a shoe. We have a christmas-tree and other decorations. No one has complained about it either since they know that the argument itself is ridicolous and it would make them look stupid. Yes, it is a multinational company. The tree, mistletoe, wreath and such xmas decorations all trace back, if I recall correctly, to German pagan roots. So if anyone was to complain it should be the xians, not anyone secular or pagan. But as a whole I agree its silly so complain about such no matter your point of view. I always get a kick out of that when I do ghost tours here in Salem and I have a few moments to talk about modern witchcraft and paganism. And when I talk about the roots of halloween, xmas and the tree after explaining the roots of them I say something along the lines of 'So in the end, as a pagan witch, thank you for celebrating our pagan holidays we appreciate it!' Most folks get a chuckle out of it but there is always a few that fail to see the humor in it and I target them for the rest of the tour LOL World of Darkness News http://www.wodnews.net --- "I cannot profess to be a theologian; but it seems to me that Christians who believe in a super human Satan have got themselves into a logical impasse with regard to their own religion. For either God can not prevent the mischief of Satan, in which case he is not omnipotent; or else He could do so if he wished, but will not, in which case He is not benevolent. Fortunately, being a pagan witch, I am not called upon to solve this problem." - Doreen Valiente
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