RUSE

[Walsingham]

I've been playing the demo of the game RUSE by Ubisoft. My initial reactions:

 

1. The game is fun, and the introduction of proper deception is a masterstroke, exponentially increasing the skill you can employ in the game.

2. There are a lot of units

3. IT'S ANOTHER WW2 GAME!

 

WTF, gaming industry? Korea, Yom Kippur 1973, Desert Storm, Chechnya, the Balkans... I wouldn't mind so much but historical accuracy is often mutilated just to balance the sides. The best example of this is the way Ubisoft have characterised the Italian airforce as airworthy as are some of its tankettes. I was surprised not to see Polish lancers in the slot for upgraded armour. WW2, and particularly early WW2 didn't HAVE balanced sides. The British 2 pdr gun was complete arse, but no-one wants to play the retreat to Dunkirk or us getting thrashed around the desert like the anthill mob.

 

Having said that, this is just the beta demo, so hopefully things will improve rather than the more likely outcome which is that they will just get dumber.

[Purkake]

The only real way to play it is on the Microsoft Surface

[cronicler]

1- The game is Ubi. I am really saddened as Ubi seems to have a lot of good or new things in it's list and the worst Drm policy.

2- The game is primarily MP oriented (Sure it may have a good SP or not as it depends on how missions crafted as the basic game is sound) and as a result no real different sides. It would have been nice to play a ,gear wise, realistic game but it wouldn't be good for mass multiplayer.

3- WW2 is somehow a "clean" war in the minds of masses. Other, more recent conflicts are all evil but somehow WW2 has dropped that mantle so other than niche war games or cheap FPSs I really don't expect to see any after-ww2 conflicts. Besides can you imagine the briefings in ralistic scenarios?

 

For an example google "Battle of Wawon" and just tell me how you could write it's briefing without pissing a lot of Americans or Turks. Same goes for a lot of other potential scenarios.

 

Edit: I gave Battle of Wawon example as it is both a thorny tactical problem and one I am familiar with. Don't read too much into it, there are countless other operations, which cannot be written without pissing off someone.

Edited March 12, 2010 by cronicler

[213374U]

I'm sure there are better WWII games to sink some time into.

[Walsingham]

I quickly looked up the battle as you advised, and think it looks OK. I don't see how it's more insulting to anyone than the retreat to Dunkirk is to the Belgians and British!

 

But nevertheless I can see what you mean. I just don't think we should be so damned prissy about simulations of mass slaughter.

[Gfted1]

Didnt they try to make a game about the Gulf War but some muslim somewhere got offended and the whole thing went in the tank?

Edited March 12, 2010 by Gfted1

[cronicler]

Edit: 6 Days in Fellujah I think this is what you are talking about Gifted

 

As far as I could find, there are a few sims (A-10, Heli, Tank), A 3rd person Shooter and a Top Down Wargame about the first gulf war.

Edited March 12, 2010 by cronicler

[Sannom]

3- WW2 is somehow a "clean" war in the minds of masses. Other, more recent conflicts are all evil but somehow WW2 has dropped that mantle so other than niche war games or cheap FPSs I really don't expect to see any after-ww2 conflicts. Besides can you imagine the briefings in ralistic scenarios?

 

Try to read about Operation Fortitude. I'm sure THAT is the reason they chose WW2 for this game. Probably the best scam ever by the British counter-intelligence. I mean, the one who were scammed never realised they had been tricked

[Calax]

Didnt they try to make a game about the Gulf War but some muslim somewhere got offended and the whole thing went in the tank?

Actually, that was partially some of the soldiers families that yelled too. And Hero Worship says that they have to abide by the families of soldiers.

[Calax]

*downloads the demo* this is going to be interesting. I was actually thinking of reinstalling taking command, or something for some more hard core strat (been playing through M:TW2 but *shrugs*) stuff and maybe this'll fill the void.

[Walsingham]

I still like the game a lot, but if Ubisoft think I'm making the sacrifice of 30 pounds then putting up with being treated like I'm a paedo on parole via DRM then they can quite simply and elegantly **** off.

[Calax]

I still like the game a lot, but if Ubisoft think I'm making the sacrifice of 30 pounds then putting up with being treated like I'm a paedo on parole via DRM then they can quite simply and elegantly **** off.

I played one match. I can see where it'd get fun, but from what little i saw in the demo it just didn't drag me in.

[RPGmasterBoo]

I've been playing the demo of the game RUSE by Ubisoft. My initial reactions:

 

1. The game is fun, and the introduction of proper deception is a masterstroke, exponentially increasing the skill you can employ in the game.

2. There are a lot of units

3. IT'S ANOTHER WW2 GAME!

 

WTF, gaming industry? Korea, Yom Kippur 1973, Desert Storm, Chechnya, the Balkans... I wouldn't mind so much but historical accuracy is often mutilated just to balance the sides. The best example of this is the way Ubisoft have characterised the Italian airforce as airworthy as are some of its tankettes. I was surprised not to see Polish lancers in the slot for upgraded armour. WW2, and particularly early WW2 didn't HAVE balanced sides. The British 2 pdr gun was complete arse, but no-one wants to play the retreat to Dunkirk or us getting thrashed around the desert like the anthill mob.

 

Having said that, this is just the beta demo, so hopefully things will improve rather than the more likely outcome which is that they will just get dumber.

 

Modern wars are generally boring, you should know that. None of the massive scale carnage of WWII. Besides WW2 is supposedly the only war with a clear moral standing of its participants (bs, I know but that's how many people view it) which makes it the "easy choice" to make (cos no one feels bad about slaughtering germans, and they can't complain anyway). Also the equally abundant Nazi worshipers amongst strategy gamers get their fill of Wehrmacht action (I'm continually surprised how many of these sort of people there are).