Arkan Posted February 7, 2010 Posted February 7, 2010 (edited) http://www.electronista.com/articles/10/02...step.backwards/ Windows Phone 7 to drop multitasking? Windows Phone 7 to drop multitasking?Windows Phone 7 may be deliberate step backwards Microsoft may consciously limit Windows Phone 7 in its attempt to compete against Apple, a leak sent out today claims. Echoing some previous reports, a source says WP7 will have a Zune-like interface at many levels but goes on to say this will extend to the underlying framework as well. It would drop multitasking and instead pause apps, using an iPhone-like push notification system to handle new updates. The revamp would also be less open as a whole than Windows Mobile 6. Hardware makers like HTC would not have the option of modifying the home screen with their own interfaces, such as TouchFLO. Apps would also have to go through a "service based delivery" system such as Windows Marketplace to install, reversing a years-old ability to download apps through the browser or other sources. A broad file system would be dropped in favor of a centralized but simpler storage area. WP7 would use the Zune HD interface wholesale for media playback but would actually have a significant amount of Xbox Live compatibility. It would not only tap into the social network but would support XNA app programming that would let developers write games using the same code they use for Xbox 360 games, although touch input and resolution would mean having to write different versions. Again, Windows Mobile apps wouldn't be backwards compatible but would have a similar enough code base to port some titles over. Microsoft's ambitions for the web experience would allegedly be another mixture of steps forward and back. The company is consciously aiming to beat the iPhone 3G in speed and accuracy but isn't yet certain if it would beat the several months old iPhone 3GS. Flash and Silverlight would be limited to the out-of-browser environment even though both should be part of Windows Mobile in the first half of the year. Hardware would be available in September and should have a fast-track development cycle, according to the source. Since Microsoft would provide the drivers, third parties could not only ship phones faster but would finally have fast, over-the-air updates. Windows Mobile has widely been criticized for a slow update model that requires carriers and hardware makers to approve and implement updates, often leading to updates only arriving several months after Microsoft updated the code. While much of the information still isn't confirmed, it corroborates previous rumors and hints at an unusual regressive strategy when trying to compete against Android, Apple and other more modern platforms. The design appears targeted at media-heavy phones like some Android devices and the iPhone but would, if true, eliminate some of the key advantages that Microsoft has claimed for Windows Mobile. Android and webOS already have true, simplified multitasking systems and allow users to download apps outside of traditional channels. Apple doesn't yet have such code but is widely expected to show off iPhone OS 4.0 as soon as this spring. So their idea to compete with Apple is to offer FEWER features than are already available with Windows Mobile 6? For Me, multitasking and an open-ended file system is a must. This is why I've defended MS (phone-wise) ever since I started using PDA's years ago. What option will I have when this de-evolution takes place? Simply stay with my current Touch Pro 2? Edited February 7, 2010 by Arkan "Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." - Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials "I have also been slowly coming to the realisation that knowledge and happiness are not necessarily coincident, and quite often mutually exclusive" - meta
Masterfade Posted February 7, 2010 Posted February 7, 2010 There are already small tablets running full-fledged Linux distro (Ubuntu) so maybe we'll see real Linux phone in the future.
mkreku Posted February 7, 2010 Posted February 7, 2010 The Nokia N900 is running Maemo. So far it looks awesome and they've just ported Firefox to it. I wouldn't worry about what Microsoft does on mobile phones. There are better alternatives out there. Swedes, go to: Spel2, for the latest game reviews in swedish!
Humodour Posted February 11, 2010 Posted February 11, 2010 (edited) So their idea to compete with Apple is to offer FEWER features than are already available with Windows Mobile 6? For Me, multitasking and an open-ended file system is a must. This is why I've defended MS (phone-wise) ever since I started using PDA's years ago. What option will I have when this de-evolution takes place? Simply stay with my current Touch Pro 2? Android (Google, Linux). Or Maemo (Nokia, Linux). Or Moblin (Intel, Linux). Or Symbian (Nokia). Microsoft hasn't been a real contender in the mobile market in a while compared to these giants. Coincidentally they're all open-source. Edited February 11, 2010 by Krezack
neckthrough Posted February 19, 2010 Posted February 19, 2010 Android (Google, Linux). Or Maemo (Nokia, Linux). Or Moblin (Intel, Linux). Or Symbian (Nokia).
Humodour Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 (edited) Android (Google, Linux). Or Maemo (Nokia, Linux). Or Moblin (Intel, Linux). Or Symbian (Nokia). Nokia and Intel just merged Maemo and Moblin. This comes a week after Nokia open-sourced Symbian. Interesting times. EDIT: Link: http://www.itworld.com/open-source/96887/h...moblin-my-maemo Edited February 21, 2010 by Krezack
Hurlshort Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 I've been looking at the Droid for my next phone, just need to do some more research on it.
I want teh kotor 3 Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 I've been looking at the Droid for my next phone, just need to do some more research on it. Best phone I've ever used, but Verizon blows. In 7th grade, I teach the students how Chuck Norris took down the Roman Empire, so it is good that you are starting early on this curriculum. R.I.P. KOTOR 2003-2008 KILLED BY THOSE GREEDY MONEY-HOARDING ************* AND THEIR *****-*** MMOS
I want teh kotor 3 Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 The Nexus One is way more awesome, no? The N1 has had a whole crapton of bugs, the most severe being non-functioning 3G radios... And the Droid has a keyboard, which the N1 doesn't... In 7th grade, I teach the students how Chuck Norris took down the Roman Empire, so it is good that you are starting early on this curriculum. R.I.P. KOTOR 2003-2008 KILLED BY THOSE GREEDY MONEY-HOARDING ************* AND THEIR *****-*** MMOS
Humodour Posted February 22, 2010 Posted February 22, 2010 The N900 is an amazing phone and I strongly recommend it over the iPhone or Android (including Nexus One). I am so pleased and happy with the one I bought. It has a touchscreen, stylus, QWERTY keyboard, high-pixel density screen, Debian-based operating system, 3 processors (sound/calls, CPU, graphics) has complete multitasking (usually without any slowdown) a full Firefox based browser (not a mobile version, a full 800 by 480 resolution browser) with the latest version of desktop Flash. You can tether freely too. Also, because it is Debian-based, a lot of Ubuntu and Debian programmes have been ported, including Debian itself (you can install Debian as an app and get access to Debian packages like OpenOffice). But ignoring all that extra Linux stuff, it's just a plain user-friendly and simple phone as well.
Purkake Posted February 22, 2010 Posted February 22, 2010 (edited) What does it use for media? Edited February 22, 2010 by Purkake
Humodour Posted February 22, 2010 Posted February 22, 2010 (edited) What does it use for media? I don't understand? All the main codecs are provided by Nokia and you can also download extra codecs free like Ogg and Flac as part of the App Store (package repository system) easily. The actual programme? A modified version of one of the open-source ones. Gstreamer? Mplayer? Not sure, sorry. It's pretty decent. I'd check for you but I'm at a LAN drinking. It has an accelerometer of course, as well as stereo speakers. Pretty cool. Just downloaded some Nintendo emulators (SNES, Gameboy, Gameboy Advanced etc). Sweeet. Edited February 22, 2010 by Krezack
Purkake Posted February 22, 2010 Posted February 22, 2010 Yes the program. I was wondering if it was decent, there are some really awful ones on some phones. I'm sure someone will eventually port the VLC player.
Hurlshort Posted February 24, 2010 Posted February 24, 2010 Got the droid, so far it's really slick. I have a lot to learn, it is my first smartphone. I love the GPS device, that alone was worth a good chunk of the price.
Arkan Posted February 24, 2010 Author Posted February 24, 2010 The N900 is an amazing phone and I strongly recommend it over the iPhone or Android (including Nexus One). I am so pleased and happy with the one I bought. It has a touchscreen, stylus, QWERTY keyboard, high-pixel density screen, Debian-based operating system, 3 processors (sound/calls, CPU, graphics) has complete multitasking (usually without any slowdown) a full Firefox based browser (not a mobile version, a full 800 by 480 resolution browser) with the latest version of desktop Flash. You can tether freely too. Also, because it is Debian-based, a lot of Ubuntu and Debian programmes have been ported, including Debian itself (you can install Debian as an app and get access to Debian packages like OpenOffice). But ignoring all that extra Linux stuff, it's just a plain user-friendly and simple phone as well. What kind of file system does it have? "Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." - Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials "I have also been slowly coming to the realisation that knowledge and happiness are not necessarily coincident, and quite often mutually exclusive" - meta
Humodour Posted February 24, 2010 Posted February 24, 2010 (edited) The N900 is an amazing phone and I strongly recommend it over the iPhone or Android (including Nexus One). I am so pleased and happy with the one I bought. It has a touchscreen, stylus, QWERTY keyboard, high-pixel density screen, Debian-based operating system, 3 processors (sound/calls, CPU, graphics) has complete multitasking (usually without any slowdown) a full Firefox based browser (not a mobile version, a full 800 by 480 resolution browser) with the latest version of desktop Flash. You can tether freely too. Also, because it is Debian-based, a lot of Ubuntu and Debian programmes have been ported, including Debian itself (you can install Debian as an app and get access to Debian packages like OpenOffice). But ignoring all that extra Linux stuff, it's just a plain user-friendly and simple phone as well. What kind of file system does it have? Fat32 unfortunately. Horrible file-system compared to something like ext3, but I guess at least all operating systems can read it. Edit: further research shows that the file systems used are: swap, ext3, and fat32. The SSD is partitioned into these three. SD cards will be a single fat32 partition by default. Edited February 24, 2010 by Krezack
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