Matthew Rorie Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 So...I kind of already bought this (it's ten bucks), but I was curious if any of you have any experience with The Last Remnant. All I've really heard about it is that it's a lot better on PC than it is on the 360, but that's not much to go on. What am I in for? It's been a while since I played a JRPG. I never quite finished Tales of Symphonia (although I need to polish it off during the holidays, I guess). Matthew Rorie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILL THE ALMIGHTY Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Last I checked: Ignore the story, stay for the combat. "Alright, I've been thinking. When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade - make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons, what am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life's manager. Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons. Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons. I'm going to to get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bos_hybrid Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Last I checked: Ignore the story, stay for the combat. Isn't that what JRPG stands for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syraxis Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Isn't that what JRPG stands for? Not always. Although, I'm hoping for a FFXIII PC port. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 (edited) @Syraxis: I'm pretty sure the double negative thing doesn't apply to video games. A bad port of a bad game doesn't make it good. If you really want to play it get a next-gen console. Edited December 17, 2009 by Purkake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidesco Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Lots of flexibility and depth to the gameplay, innovative in good ways and it's a JRPG where you can actually skip the whole plot, because there's a skip button for every single annoying cutscene. Technically, it's great: gorgeous at times, very stable, good performance, highly customizable, supports keyboard, mouse and various gamepads, and has the option for Japanese or English voice overs. It does have a couple of problems, however. Firstly, the combat only really shines with a full army, which is a real issue as it takes quite some time before you can control a full army. Also, the fact that the gameplay is a bit unlike anything else out there may mean that you will take a while before you've mastered the system. Finally, artistically the game follows the JRPG school of style which means its art design makes rococo seem somewhat muted. The combat is unusual because you don't control the characters directly in battle, instead picking from a random list of possible orders for each unit, that you then see being carried out. To influence your army's success in battle you have to pick warriors from a huge pool of unique characters, organize them in units of 5 or less soldiers, pick the units' formations, upgrade their equipment, and direct their character growth. The way the characters level up is determined by what they do in battle and by what areas you tell them to study outside of combat. This is a fairly well balanced review of the console version of the game. Here is a list of differences between the PC and and the 360 versions. All in all this is one of the games I enjoyed most this year, and it's the first game in a long time to make me feel like I was playing something really new. "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian touristI am Dan Quayle of the Romans.I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands.Heja Sverige!!Everyone should cuffawkle more.The wrench is your friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mamoulian War Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 @Syraxis: I'm pretty sure the double negative thing doesn't apply to video games. A bad port of a bad game doesn't make it good. If you really want to play it get a next-gen console. Seriously, you are starting to be even more annoying with your JRPG hate, than i am with my EA hate... Sent from my Stone Tablet, using Chisel-a-Talk 2000BC. My youtube channel: MamoulianFH Latest Let's Play Tales of Arise (completed) Latest Bossfight Compilation Dark Souls Remastered - New Game (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 1: Austria Grand Campaign (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 2: Xhosa Grand Campaign (completed) My PS Platinums and 100% - 29 games so far (my PSN profile) 1) God of War III - PS3 - 24+ hours 2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours 3) White Knight Chronicles International Edition - PS3 - 525+ hours 4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours 5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours 6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours 7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours 8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC) 9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours 11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours 12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours 13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours 14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours 15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours 16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours 17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours 18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours 20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours 21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours 22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours 23) Fairy Fencer F - PS3 - 215+ hours 24) Megadimension Neptunia VII - PS4 - 160 hours 25) Super Neptunia RPG - PS4 - 44+ hours 26) Journey - PS3 - 22+ hours 27) Final Fantasy XV - PS4 - 263+ hours (including all DLCs) 28) Tales of Arise - PS4 - 111+ hours 29) Dark Souls: Remastered - PS4 - 121+ hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majek Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 The combat only looks complex at first glance, but if you want to enjoy it don't try to understand it as you'll start to hate it soon. The story could be worse, they always can be, but the protagonist is one of the worst there are. It could end as an enjoyable experience, you just don't have to expect too much and resent the flaws ( once you spot them of course). 1.13 killed off Ja2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 It's a Square-Enix title. What else do you expect from the story/characters? Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mamoulian War Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 It's a Square-Enix title. What else do you expect from the story/characters? More than i do expect from Activision or EA Sent from my Stone Tablet, using Chisel-a-Talk 2000BC. My youtube channel: MamoulianFH Latest Let's Play Tales of Arise (completed) Latest Bossfight Compilation Dark Souls Remastered - New Game (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 1: Austria Grand Campaign (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 2: Xhosa Grand Campaign (completed) My PS Platinums and 100% - 29 games so far (my PSN profile) 1) God of War III - PS3 - 24+ hours 2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours 3) White Knight Chronicles International Edition - PS3 - 525+ hours 4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours 5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours 6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours 7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours 8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC) 9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours 11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours 12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours 13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours 14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours 15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours 16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours 17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours 18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours 20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours 21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours 22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours 23) Fairy Fencer F - PS3 - 215+ hours 24) Megadimension Neptunia VII - PS4 - 160 hours 25) Super Neptunia RPG - PS4 - 44+ hours 26) Journey - PS3 - 22+ hours 27) Final Fantasy XV - PS4 - 263+ hours (including all DLCs) 28) Tales of Arise - PS4 - 111+ hours 29) Dark Souls: Remastered - PS4 - 121+ hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 It's a Square-Enix title. What else do you expect from the story/characters? More than i do expect from Activision or EA Seriously, you gotta be brain damaged to dig such characters. Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 @Syraxis: I'm pretty sure the double negative thing doesn't apply to video games. A bad port of a bad game doesn't make it good. If you really want to play it get a next-gen console. Seriously, you are starting to be even more annoying with your JRPG hate, than i am with my EA hate... A challenger appears!? Seriously, FF XIII looks about as generic as the other 412562 JRPGs. I'll stop calling them bad when they make a good one. I loved Tales of Phantasia, Lufia II and a whole bunch of them on SNES, but I don't think there's another genre as stagnant as the JRPG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lare Kikkeli Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 I don't think there's another genre as stagnant as the JRPG. western rpgs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 (edited) Come on, we have got dialog wheels, third person cover-based combat, a trilogy where each game affects the next one and games where you don't save the world. Beat that, JRPGs! Edited December 17, 2009 by Purkake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oner Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Seriously, FF XIII looks about as generic as the other 412562 JRPGs.Good thing we have space marines, abandoned space stations, elves, dwarves, zombies and dragons. Giveaway list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DgyQFpOJvyNASt8A12ipyV_iwpLXg_yltGG5mffvSwo/edit?usp=sharing What is glass but tortured sand?Never forget! '12.01.13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 (edited) We also have infinite planes, green-lipped guerrilla journalists, balls of goo, non-lame vampires, cyberpunk, sarcastic, yet lovable heroines and best of all the awesomest JRPG parody ever. B-Ballnacht, never forget. Edited December 17, 2009 by Purkake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Seriously, FF XIII looks about as generic as the other 412562 JRPGs.Good thing we have space marines, abandoned space stations, elves, dwarves, zombies and dragons. Which are all pretty cool in my book. Moar please. Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majek Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Come on, we have got dialog wheels, third person cover-based combat, a trilogy where each game affects the next one and games where you don't save the world. Beat that, JRPGs! We have games where you don't save the world? Really? 1.13 killed off Ja2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Well, Planescape Torment, Max Payne, Mask of the Betrayer. I'm sure there's a couple more, but that's all I can think of off the top of my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bos_hybrid Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 I decided to give it a try.(Truth:Steam sale addiction) May I ask what is with JRPG and the small effeminate male(?) PCs? Meh going back to King Arthur. We have games where you don't save the world? Really? MoTB, VTM:B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidesco Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 I decided to give it a try.(Truth:Steam sale addiction) May I ask what is with JRPG and the small effeminate male(?) PCs? Meh going back to King Arthur. We have games where you don't save the world? Really? MoTB, VTM:B. Ignore the plot and characters and you'll find an awesome game. "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian touristI am Dan Quayle of the Romans.I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands.Heja Sverige!!Everyone should cuffawkle more.The wrench is your friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oner Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 I decided to give it a try.(Truth:Steam sale addiction) May I ask what is with JRPG and the small effeminate male(?) PCs? Meh going back to King Arthur.Don't know, but it's funny that FF VII is mentioned often with it's girly Cloud, even though he is the only char ever that is more or less confirmed to be intentional. Giveaway list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DgyQFpOJvyNASt8A12ipyV_iwpLXg_yltGG5mffvSwo/edit?usp=sharing What is glass but tortured sand?Never forget! '12.01.13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 I believe Yahtzee used the term "androgynous teenage girl" when referring to the generic JRPG protagonist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mamoulian War Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 (edited) It's a Square-Enix title. What else do you expect from the story/characters? More than i do expect from Activision or EA Seriously, you gotta be brain damaged to dig such characters. at least we in the westhave some realy non-generic characters like this... right? Edited December 17, 2009 by Mamoulian War Sent from my Stone Tablet, using Chisel-a-Talk 2000BC. My youtube channel: MamoulianFH Latest Let's Play Tales of Arise (completed) Latest Bossfight Compilation Dark Souls Remastered - New Game (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 1: Austria Grand Campaign (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 2: Xhosa Grand Campaign (completed) My PS Platinums and 100% - 29 games so far (my PSN profile) 1) God of War III - PS3 - 24+ hours 2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours 3) White Knight Chronicles International Edition - PS3 - 525+ hours 4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours 5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours 6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours 7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours 8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC) 9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours 11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours 12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours 13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours 14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours 15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours 16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours 17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours 18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours 20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours 21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours 22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours 23) Fairy Fencer F - PS3 - 215+ hours 24) Megadimension Neptunia VII - PS4 - 160 hours 25) Super Neptunia RPG - PS4 - 44+ hours 26) Journey - PS3 - 22+ hours 27) Final Fantasy XV - PS4 - 263+ hours (including all DLCs) 28) Tales of Arise - PS4 - 111+ hours 29) Dark Souls: Remastered - PS4 - 121+ hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oner Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 I saw what you did there. Giveaway list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DgyQFpOJvyNASt8A12ipyV_iwpLXg_yltGG5mffvSwo/edit?usp=sharing What is glass but tortured sand?Never forget! '12.01.13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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