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[Deadly_Nightshade]

I'd love to have Glenn Beck as a professor, especially without restrictions. The man's brilliant.

 

I hope you're joking.

[Guard Dog]

I'd love to have Glenn Beck as a professor, especially without restrictions. The man's brilliant.

 

I hope you're joking.

 

Now that would not happen to be because his politics are opposite of yours would it? Or you Calax? I mean if somone is politically conservative does that preclude them from being brilliant?

 

Now, brilliant is not the word I'd use to describe Glenn Beck, but I have read all four of his books and I will say that while he is a deeply flawed human being, he is certainly no dummy. And I can't think of too many instances where he has been factually inaccurate. In fact just one comes to mind.

[Guard Dog]

All my Thanksgiving plans are shot. The familys all getting together in Ft Lauderdale and I can think of at least ten reasons not to go there. So, I called up a friend (the girl who liked my taste in art) and, well, lets just say that was not a good idea. So it's just me and the dogs this weekend. I'm going to grill up some chicken breasts for them, lobster tails and grilled veggies for me, plus I've got enough beer and liquor in the house to float a boat. All the projects around the house are done.. looks like a football watching weekend. Life is good!

[Walsingham]

All my Thanksgiving plans are shot. The familys all getting together in Ft Lauderdale and I can think of at least ten reasons not to go there. So, I called up a friend (the girl who liked my taste in art) and, well, lets just say that was not a good idea. So it's just me and the dogs this weekend. I'm going to grill up some chicken breasts for them, lobster tails and grilled veggies for me, plus I've got enough beer and liquor in the house to float a boat. All the projects around the house are done.. looks like a football watching weekend. Life is good!

 

See if you can get a hold of any books by George MacDonald Fraser. I can think of no better companion to disreputable bachelorhood. In particular I think you'd enjoy Quartered Safe Out Here. But failing that some Flashman.

[Calax]

I'd love to have Glenn Beck as a professor, especially without restrictions. The man's brilliant.

 

I hope you're joking.

 

Now that would not happen to be because his politics are opposite of yours would it? Or you Calax? I mean if somone is politically conservative does that preclude them from being brilliant?

 

Now, brilliant is not the word I'd use to describe Glenn Beck, but I have read all four of his books and I will say that while he is a deeply flawed human being, he is certainly no dummy. And I can't think of too many instances where he has been factually inaccurate. In fact just one comes to mind.

Partially it's political views but it's also things like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrLzf0rPF8w...feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1eThmvGEsY...feature=channel

 

where he is a fear monger and he also distorts facts, quotes, and adds or removes words to suit his requirement for shock value.

[alanschu]

That first link does a wonderful job at already making me look at Beck in a particularly poor light.

 

 

Haha, he wants to talk about Propaganda hahaha.

Edited November 26, 2009 by alanschu

[I want teh kotor 3]

I was slightly kidding about the beck thing. I think he's intelligent, but not brilliant- I was trying to insert some levity.

 

All my Thanksgiving plans are shot. The familys all getting together in Ft Lauderdale and I can think of at least ten reasons not to go there. So, I called up a friend (the girl who liked my taste in art) and, well, lets just say that was not a good idea. So it's just me and the dogs this weekend. I'm going to grill up some chicken breasts for them, lobster tails and grilled veggies for me, plus I've got enough beer and liquor in the house to float a boat. All the projects around the house are done.. looks like a football watching weekend. Life is good!

 

What do you have against Ft. Lauderdale? Its great down here.

 

/sarcasm

[Deadly_Nightshade]

...he is a fear monger and he also distorts facts, quotes, and adds or removes words to suit his requirement for shock value.

 

This.

[alanschu]

I had never heard of the chap before today, but those two links do not indicate a particularly intelligent individual.

[Calax]

I had never heard of the chap before today, but those two links do not indicate a particularly intelligent individual.

he's one of john stewarts favorite punching bags

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5Flb7sZCVI

 

The last one is the general idea of becks style

[Guard Dog]

What do you have against Ft. Lauderdale? Its great down here.

 

/sarcasm

 

Actually I lived down there from 1995 to 2006. In Ft. Lauderdale (Margate to be exact) and West Palm Beach. I left a failed career, a ruined business, and an ex-wife down there. To say nothing of a lot of really bad memories. Hell will freeze solid before I ever venture south of Yeehaw Junction (yes that IS a real place everyone.. go ahead and laugh, it is funny) again.

 

What do YOU think of SFL KOTOR? What part are you in?

[alanschu]

I was wondering what that episode of South Park was making fun of haha.

[Guard Dog]

I had never heard of the chap before today, but those two links do not indicate a particularly intelligent individual.

 

This guy has been on the air for 10+ years, has written four books and had a two year stage show/lecture tour. It is a little quick to judge that based on 12 minuites of Youtube footage taken without the context of his whole show. In short he is a news commentator/radio talk show host. He is very much like Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, etc. He is not a news journalist and does not pretend to be one. He is not disingenous like Chris Matthews, Olberman, or other vermin of their ilk because he makes no secret about the fact that his show is all about his opinions of whats going on in the world. You have to take it for what it is. Or just don't watch it. It is still a free country.

 

Now based on Calax and Deadly's posts, and not meaning to put words in their mouth, but they don't seem to understand that or dislike him simply because his politics are not their politics. Nothing wrong with that at all but at least they should be willing to admit that.

[Gorgon]

I'd love to have Glenn Beck as a professor, especially without restrictions. The man's brilliant.

 

I hope you're joking.

But... he's not a professor, he's one of those political professional talking head dousches. Last I remember was him saying Obabma was a racist, which got some play on the sadly-not-so-funny-anymore daily show.

[Walsingham]

Everyone is getting caught up in the hooha liberal conservative balls, and not liking my plug for GMF.

[Calax]

I had never heard of the chap before today, but those two links do not indicate a particularly intelligent individual.

 

This guy has been on the air for 10+ years, has written four books and had a two year stage show/lecture tour. It is a little quick to judge that based on 12 minuites of Youtube footage taken without the context of his whole show. In short he is a news commentator/radio talk show host. He is very much like Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, etc. He is not a news journalist and does not pretend to be one. He is not disingenous like Chris Matthews, Olberman, or other vermin of their ilk because he makes no secret about the fact that his show is all about his opinions of whats going on in the world. You have to take it for what it is. Or just don't watch it. It is still a free country.

 

Now based on Calax and Deadly's posts, and not meaning to put words in their mouth, but they don't seem to understand that or dislike him simply because his politics are not their politics. Nothing wrong with that at all but at least they should be willing to admit that.

well, my very first youtube link shows that he took a comment that Anita Dunn made saying that "a quote from two of my favorite political philosophers, Chairman Mao and Mother Theresa" turned into "her favorite political hero, Chairman Mao" ignoring the fact that it was obviously in jest and that she included mother Theresa in the comment.

 

I haven't watched his show, or olberman or matthews or whoever, but ultimately you should group them all into the same catagory, it's just that fox news (Fair and balanced remember) is VERY OBVIOUS about it's political leanings and has commentators who follow those leanings and will do their best to distort things so that their agenda looks like the only rational thing on the planet and that everyone else is loons.

[alanschu]

I had never heard of the chap before today, but those two links do not indicate a particularly intelligent individual.

 

This guy has been on the air for 10+ years, has written four books and had a two year stage show/lecture tour. It is a little quick to judge that based on 12 minuites of Youtube footage taken without the context of his whole show.

 

That's why I said those two links. I didn't actually pass judgment on him. However, it would seem as though Mr. Beck is guilty of the same thing, that is, judging people based on small parts of footage without showing the audience the entire context. At least in the examples given.

 

 

Now based on Calax and Deadly's posts, and not meaning to put words in their mouth, but they don't seem to understand that or dislike him simply because his politics are not their politics. Nothing wrong with that at all but at least they should be willing to admit that.

 

It's one thing to say "his politcs are not their politics," but the picking and choosing of the Mao Tse Tung stuff was pretty appalling. That's the type of **** that Michael Moore does, and I certainly don't like Michael Moore.

 

A quick question though. What's your thoughts on Michael Moore? I certainly wouldn't hold it against you if you hated him, but it seems you're okay with someone like Moore, as you just realize that his politics are not your politics?

Edited November 27, 2009 by alanschu

[Guard Dog]

I haven't watched his show, or olberman or matthews or whoever, but ultimately you should group them all into the same catagory, it's just that fox news (Fair and balanced remember) is VERY OBVIOUS about it's political leanings and has commentators who follow those leanings and will do their best to distort things so that their agenda looks like the only rational thing on the planet and that everyone else is loons.

 

So does MSNBC and CNN ( nicknamed the Clinton News Network back in the 90's) only they distort to promote a leftist agenda. But you are confusing news for news commentary. The news part of Fox News is not really any different than any other all news network. If you want unbiased news sans commentary I think the BBC is all that left. It's just you guys are being a little disengenous railing against Fox for being biased because they have Beck and Hannity without acknowledging that the other networks are just as biased the other way. More so really because Fox has Alan Combs, Greta Vas Sustren, and Juan Williams. They're are all very left leaning and they all have their own show. Can you name me any conservatives on MSNBC or CNN? (hint don't expend too much time on this...there are not any)

[alanschu]

I think you're overreacting given the comment that someone thought that Beck would make a great professor, and someone else disagreed.

 

Ignoring the biased clips posted in this thread, Beck does NOT strike me as a scientist and, based on the people you compared him too, would NOT be a very good professor, no matter how brilliant he may be.

[Guard Dog]

A quick question though. What's your thoughts on Michael Moore? I certainly wouldn't hold it against you if you hated him, but it seems you're okay with someone like Moore, as you just realize that his politics are not your politics?

 

I don't think about him at all. He has an axe to grind and uses his movies to do it. That is his God given, Constitutionally guranteed right. If someone goes to see them than they are entertained thats fine with me. I will not watch them though. The difference between me and some others around here is I don't think he should be deprived of his forum simply because I don't like what he has to say. (Not insinuating anything Calax and Deadly, don't take that wrong).

 

Actually Alan I have the same opinion on lots of "sacred" issues the conservatives hold dear. Even though it would be more accurate to describe me as a conservative than a liberal. For example gay marriage. If you don't like it, don't marry a gay person. But you have no right to tell someone else how to live their life. The biggest problem with the US today and this goes to the core of what I despise about both the right and the left, but especially the left, is that everyone seems to think they know better how you should be living you life than you do.

[Calax]

A quick question though. What's your thoughts on Michael Moore? I certainly wouldn't hold it against you if you hated him, but it seems you're okay with someone like Moore, as you just realize that his politics are not your politics?

 

I don't think about him at all. He has an axe to grind and uses his movies to do it. That is his God given, Constitutionally guranteed right. If someone goes to see them than they are entertained thats fine with me. I will not watch them though. The difference between me and some others around here is I don't think he should be deprived of his forum simply because I don't like what he has to say. (Not insinuating anything Calax and Deadly, don't take that wrong).

I'm not saying that he should be deprived of his forum, but I do find the fact that a news network who's primary commentator proclaims the "no spin zone", on a "fair and balanced" network is showing quite obvious bias and is taken as a if they're just being honest to be horrific in general.

 

That said, this guy (who is admittedly liberal about things, just look at his user name) found these things:

[alanschu]

A quick question though. What's your thoughts on Michael Moore? I certainly wouldn't hold it against you if you hated him, but it seems you're okay with someone like Moore, as you just realize that his politics are not your politics?

 

I don't think about him at all. He has an axe to grind and uses his movies to do it. That is his God given, Constitutionally guranteed right. If someone goes to see them than they are entertained thats fine with me. I will not watch them though. The difference between me and some others around here is I don't think he should be deprived of his forum simply because I don't like what he has to say.

 

And I won't deny anybody their right to speak out against people like Beck (or Moore or anyone else).

[Deadly_Nightshade]

He is not a news journalist and does not pretend to be one.

 

And yet there is a difference between stating your opinion and manipulating information to make it conform to your view of said information (note that I am not saying Beck is the only person to do this). Not that I would support his being taken off the air, I agree he has the right to say that, but I would prefer that people not laud him for that either - just as I think that Moor should, in general and from what I've seen of his work, not be lauded for being a great filmmaker.

 

If you want unbiased news sans commentary I think the BBC is all that left.

 

I'd actually agree with that and will admit that the BBC is my main source of news.

Edited November 27, 2009 by Deadly_Nightshade

[Shryke]

so apparently my xmas present from a couple of friends has already been sorted out

 

they're getting me a purple silk pirate shirt

 

i am amused

[I want teh kotor 3]

What do you have against Ft. Lauderdale? Its great down here.

 

/sarcasm

 

Actually I lived down there from 1995 to 2006. In Ft. Lauderdale (Margate to be exact) and West Palm Beach. I left a failed career, a ruined business, and an ex-wife down there. To say nothing of a lot of really bad memories. Hell will freeze solid before I ever venture south of Yeehaw Junction (yes that IS a real place everyone.. go ahead and laugh, it is funny) again.

 

What do YOU think of SFL KOTOR? What part are you in?

 

I'm in Ft. Lauderdale. I hate it. Its too ****ing hot, all day, everyday. There's one season: oven. 100