Blarghagh Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Maybe reading too much into dreams? I had a dream about a week ago where I was a ghostbuster who had to stop Michael Jackson's ghost from assaulting children. My subconscious is telling me I shouldn't think about pop culture so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted September 30, 2009 Author Share Posted September 30, 2009 That's really pretty interesting, Blank. if I've understood your analogy correctly you're saying that in submission to its place and role the sword finds love, but in rebellion only hate. I know you hinted at the Christian notion that the violence in being a sword was unlikely to be that purpose, but I'm hardly a Christian in the modern sense. More of "Get ye up on horses, and glory in chariots, and let the valiant men come forth, the Ethiopians, and the Libyans that hold the shield, and the Lydians that take, and shoot arrows. Jeremiah 10 For this is the day of the Lord the God of hosts, a day of vengeance, that he may revenge himself of his enemies: the sword shall devour, and shall be filled, and shall be drunk with their blood: for there is a sacrifice of the Lord God of hosts in the north country, by the river Euphrates. " "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorth Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 If the smith created the sword, maybe it is a child/parent relationship thing? Does the child love or hate the parent? Does the sword feel guilty for not loving the smith when going through the "I hate you" phases of life? “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted September 30, 2009 Author Share Posted September 30, 2009 You mean the sword will hate the smith then love the smith? "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorth Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Yes. The making of a good sword is a very long and complicated process “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted September 30, 2009 Author Share Posted September 30, 2009 I think I've cracked it, but I'm not sure. Blank's biblical pointer set me thinking. Swords in my mind are very complex, and probably not symbolic per se. What kind of sword are we talking, after all? a sword of memory metal, a sword of shark's teeth, a sword in parliament? No. No good at all. It had to be symbolic outside my specific frame of reference if at all. Swords in the bible are potent symbols. They can be in the mouth of the righteous, or the hands of angels. They are symbols of judgement. The one universal theme is that they are weilded. This in turn set me thinking on another path. The question is upside down, but to a good purpose. The sword is a creation of the smith. The smith has a purpose, and the sword fulfils that purpose or is supposed to. The sword becomes a thing OF hate, or destruction; of separation (as in judgement, cleaving the just from the unjust), the reverse of love. But in doing so it is bound in love to the smith. It becomes correctly unified with its purpose, and with itself. If on the other hand the sword becomes a thing OF love, loving all around it then it is separated from itself and the smith. It hates completely and utterly. Indeed it ahtes so completely that it ceases to be a sword, is no longer the creation intended. One might almost say the smith is no longer the creator since the sword is not a sword. I'm still confused as to what the hell I'm supposed to learn from all this. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfted1 Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 I think you just need to get laid. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosbjerg Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Considering your sense of humour I'm sure your sub-conscience is pulling your leg. Fortune favors the bald. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirottu Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 That bastard! This post is not to be enjoyed, discussed, or referenced on company time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 I think I've cracked it, but I'm not sure. Blank's biblical pointer set me thinking. Swords in my mind are very complex, and probably not symbolic per se. What kind of sword are we talking, after all? a sword of memory metal, a sword of shark's teeth, a sword in parliament? No. No good at all. It had to be symbolic outside my specific frame of reference if at all. Swords in the bible are potent symbols. They can be in the mouth of the righteous, or the hands of angels. They are symbols of judgement. The one universal theme is that they are weilded. This in turn set me thinking on another path. The question is upside down, but to a good purpose. The sword is a creation of the smith. The smith has a purpose, and the sword fulfils that purpose or is supposed to. The sword becomes a thing OF hate, or destruction; of separation (as in judgement, cleaving the just from the unjust), the reverse of love. But in doing so it is bound in love to the smith. It becomes correctly unified with its purpose, and with itself. If on the other hand the sword becomes a thing OF love, loving all around it then it is separated from itself and the smith. It hates completely and utterly. Indeed it ahtes so completely that it ceases to be a sword, is no longer the creation intended. One might almost say the smith is no longer the creator since the sword is not a sword. I'm still confused as to what the hell I'm supposed to learn from all this. Maybe that you have a purpose, and you will love or hate your purpose-giver depending on your actions, whether toward the purpose or against it. Or maybe that something you have given purpose to will love you or hate you depending on its actions, for your purpose or against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted October 4, 2009 Author Share Posted October 4, 2009 I think you just need to get laid. That is very true. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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