Rosbjerg Posted October 31, 2008 Posted October 31, 2008 The whole your-mentor-is-the-main-villian is also quite used.. It's not like Obsidian is above using clich Fortune favors the bald.
Markus Ramikin Posted October 31, 2008 Posted October 31, 2008 What Jediphile said. As to the mentor is villain cliche, it didn't strike me as such... can you please give other examples? I mean I'm sure you're right, I just can't think of them atm.
DeathScepter Posted November 1, 2008 Posted November 1, 2008 Jade Empire with Master Sun Li and your character had that relationship. And thus was from the old Kung fu movies and RPGs, where the Mentor often is either saved by the hero or is the villian.
I want teh kotor 3 Posted November 1, 2008 Posted November 1, 2008 Requiescas in pace. And Jediphile, that was really good. In 7th grade, I teach the students how Chuck Norris took down the Roman Empire, so it is good that you are starting early on this curriculum. R.I.P. KOTOR 2003-2008 KILLED BY THOSE GREEDY MONEY-HOARDING ************* AND THEIR *****-*** MMOS
Jediphile Posted November 3, 2008 Author Posted November 3, 2008 The whole your-mentor-is-the-main-villian is also quite used.. It's not like Obsidian is above using clich Visit my KotOR blog at Deadly Forums.
Rosbjerg Posted November 3, 2008 Posted November 3, 2008 Which was my point - Obisdians main advantage is their ability to actually take tried plotlines and somewhat clich Fortune favors the bald.
Darth Allanon Posted November 4, 2008 Posted November 4, 2008 I'll never lose hope for KotOR 3. Never! Always knowing the answer doesn't make you smart, but being able to discover the answer does.
Magister Lajciak Posted November 4, 2008 Posted November 4, 2008 I'll never lose hope for KotOR 3. Never! Well, you will probably keep hoping in vain. It's better to let go and move onto other franchises, as painful as it may be.
UnknownRegions Posted November 4, 2008 Posted November 4, 2008 The possibilty of k3 all depends on how well the MMO goes. Maybe if the MMO bombs out, they'll say "Hey! Maybe a continuation of k2 -that's not a MMO- is a great idea!" If the money they made the MMO for doesn't show up.... maybe they'll see it the fan's way. Don't bury swkotor 3 just yet... I'll wait for the feedback on the MMO before I throw myself on the coffin, crying with grief. The lesser of two evils is still evil.
Jediphile Posted November 4, 2008 Author Posted November 4, 2008 The possibilty of k3 all depends on how well the MMO goes. Maybe if the MMO bombs out, they'll say "Hey! Maybe a continuation of k2 -that's not a MMO- is a great idea!" If the money they made the MMO for doesn't show up.... maybe they'll see it the fan's way. Sadly that seems unlikely to me. For one thing, SWtOR has hijacked the K3 plot. So even if it fails and LA decides to retrace their steps towards SP CRPG, there is virtually no way to recover the Revan and Exile vs. True Sith plot... It's dead, Jim. Visit my KotOR blog at Deadly Forums.
DeathScepter Posted November 5, 2008 Posted November 5, 2008 if We the fans can write a half decent Revan and Exile vs True Sith Empire story, there can be a chance. United, The Fans can work miracles.
jodo kast 5 Posted November 5, 2008 Posted November 5, 2008 (edited) *Salutes* Rest in Peace, KOTOR. Damn Bioware and LA, and their greed. Edited November 5, 2008 by jodo kast 5
Magister Lajciak Posted November 5, 2008 Posted November 5, 2008 The possibilty of k3 all depends on how well the MMO goes. Maybe if the MMO bombs out, they'll say "Hey! Maybe a continuation of k2 -that's not a MMO- is a great idea!" If the money they made the MMO for doesn't show up.... maybe they'll see it the fan's way. Sadly that seems unlikely to me. For one thing, SWtOR has hijacked the K3 plot. So even if it fails and LA decides to retrace their steps towards SP CRPG, there is virtually no way to recover the Revan and Exile vs. True Sith plot... It's dead, Jim. What's more, the SWOR MMO will not fail. It will almost certainly be a huge success and even any kind of 'failure' in terms of meeting expectations would still probably not result in the game losing money.
UnknownRegions Posted November 5, 2008 Posted November 5, 2008 the future of k3 doesn't depend on the releasing of a game. it could be a book and i'd be happy. if you can convince LA that there is mounds of money around the releasing of k3 (game, book, movie), there is a chance. i have to partially agree with the DeathScepter. everything about swkotor rests in the hands of the fans. if the majority of fans want k3 (not the MMO), that's what they'll get. although.... the chances of the majority of swkotor fans refusing to play the MMO is slim. =( I for one... will not play the MMO. end of story. that's what i mean when i say that the possibility of k3 rests in the success of failure of the MMO. FANS, UNITE!! The lesser of two evils is still evil.
Magister Lajciak Posted November 5, 2008 Posted November 5, 2008 Well, sure, they could make a book set in the between KOTOR 2 and SWOR, but for me that cannot replace KOTOR 3.
Darth Allanon Posted November 6, 2008 Posted November 6, 2008 We could always kidnap everyone from LA and demand a KotOR 3. lol Always knowing the answer doesn't make you smart, but being able to discover the answer does.
Magister Lajciak Posted November 6, 2008 Posted November 6, 2008 We could always kidnap everyone from LA and demand a KotOR 3. lol Some BioWare dev has explicitly said that SWOR is KOTOR 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9. Hmm, I guess that means we can get KOTOR 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 and beyond as single player game again!
Markus Ramikin Posted November 6, 2008 Posted November 6, 2008 We could always kidnap everyone from LA and demand a KotOR 3. lol And then terminate them anyway after we get what we want, Sith style? *blink*
Darth Allanon Posted November 6, 2008 Posted November 6, 2008 Some BioWare dev has explicitly said that SWOR is KOTOR 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9. Don't worry they're next! lol Always knowing the answer doesn't make you smart, but being able to discover the answer does.
Magister Lajciak Posted November 6, 2008 Posted November 6, 2008 Some BioWare dev has explicitly said that SWOR is KOTOR 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9. Don't worry they're next! lol Well, as I said - they did not claim that SWOR replaces KOTOR 10+!
UnknownRegions Posted November 6, 2008 Posted November 6, 2008 THE HEADLINES READ: GEORGE LUCAS HELD HOSTAGE BY CRAZED SWKOTOR FANS Maybe someone will write the continuation of k2 that we want . *HINT! HINT! HINT! OBSIDIAN* (if they're even listening) They would probably even make nice money off a book. Though... a k3 game couldn't be beat. =( The lesser of two evils is still evil.
Magister Lajciak Posted November 6, 2008 Posted November 6, 2008 A book is simply no substitute for the game for me.
Darth Allanon Posted November 7, 2008 Posted November 7, 2008 A book is better than nothing though. Always knowing the answer doesn't make you smart, but being able to discover the answer does.
Markus Ramikin Posted November 7, 2008 Posted November 7, 2008 (edited) I actually prefer a good book to a good game. Keyword being "good". Most "novellisations" of things aren't really that great, though I liked what Feist made of Betrayal at Krondor. edit: actually come to think of it, that may be because there aren't so many games that are as good as good books. Kotor 2 is definitely up there as one of the best written games ever, same with Torment, and it would be hard to beat with a book. So in the end I guess I have no special preference of game vs book, I just want whatever comes out to be well written! Edited November 7, 2008 by Markus Ramikin
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