Mical (Disciple)

[Brittany]

Not that I blame them - none of us like being moralized to, and Mical is close to doing that and stating the obvious at times, too, which probably makes him a candidate for someone the player might want to point out when approaching HK-47...

 

 

 

haha, HK and Mical.... I can picture it now...

Edited April 23, 2008 by Brittany

[Deadly_Nightshade]

 

Vs.

 

I know who I am backing - and it's not the meatbag.

[Brittany]

Since we are on the subject of Mical, does anybody know how old he is supposed to be in the game?

[Deadly_Nightshade]

I would guess anywhere from twenty-something to early thirties, the same general span as the Handmaiden.

[Brittany]

I would guess anywhere from twenty-something to early thirties, the same general span as the Handmaiden.

 

 

Alright thanks. Yeah I was thinking he was in his mid twenties or so.

[babydol]

I would guess anywhere from twenty-something to early thirties, the same general span as the Handmaiden.

 

 

Alright thanks. Yeah I was thinking he was in his mid twenties or so.

 

 

I remember hearing Atton refer to him as a "kid" somewhere. Let's see what the old TSL Prima official game guide says: Um... yep, useless.

[Deadly_Nightshade]

Let us see, I believe he was going to be trained, or had already started training, as a Jedi when the enclave was destroyed, and I would guess that he was between ten and fifteen when that occurred. I do not think that a distinct time was ever mentioned in relation to the gab between the first and second games, but if it was ten to twenty years that would make Mical anywhere from twenty to thirty-five.

 

Edit: I would guess that Atton is between thirty and forty, and the "kid" remark was a direct reference to Han Solo's nickname for Luke.

Edited April 24, 2008 by Deadly_Nightshade

[Brittany]

Ok well here is what I dug up!

 

On Wookieepedia it says that The Exile visited Nar Shaddaa in the year 3,951 BBY which I'm guessing places that rest of the game in that year as well.

 

 

So if we go along those lines Mical, being born in 3,976 BBY, would be 25.

 

Attons birth year is listed as a guesstimate at (3,980-3,983 BBY) making him in between 29-32.

 

Mira was born in 3,974 BBY placing her at 23.

 

Visas was born in the same year as Mical (3,976 BBY) making her 25 as well.

 

Kreia is believed to have been born in 4,001 BBY only making her about 50.

 

 

*whew*

 

Now I know this isn't concrete evidence but at least it helps us out a little bit.

Edited April 24, 2008 by Brittany

[Deadly_Nightshade]

After looking at the discussion page, I have to say that I am skeptical that they have the correct date - although the ages seem to be about right.

[Brittany]

After looking at the discussion page, I have to say that I am skeptical that they have the correct date - although the ages seem to be about right.

 

 

lol yeah I'm sure there are some discrepancies but I agree that the ages seem to fit.

[Jediphile]

After looking at the discussion page, I have to say that I am skeptical that they have the correct date - although the ages seem to be about right.

 

Lots of people tend to doubt those, especially in Kreia's case. However, those ages are from the primary source himself, Chris Avellone, on this very forum no less.

 

http://forums.obsidianent.com/index.php?s=...st&p=184142

 

And he casts doubt only on Kreia's age. However, since there is nothing to disprove her being 50 years of age, I'll believe Avellone and chalk up any indication of her possibly being older as confirmation of Atton's "hard living" comment.

[Deadly_Nightshade]

Ok, cool - I did not know they came from Avellone.

[Jediphile]

Not that I blame them - none of us like being moralized to, and Mical is close to doing that and stating the obvious at times, too, which probably makes him a candidate for someone the player might want to point out when approaching HK-47...

 

 

 

haha, HK and Mical.... I can picture it now...

 

Yeah... I can see how that would go down.

 

 

HK-47: "Query: Is there someone you want killed, master?"

 

Exile: "Will you stop saying that! I don't want you to kill anyone. I want nobody assassinated. I'm a jedi, not a sith!"

 

Disciple: "I'm relieved to hear you say so, even after the Order cast you out. Not that you were alone. Many Jedi defied the Order during the Mandalorian Wars - and it paved the way for the Jedi Civil War.There is no blame - all must accept. But at its core, one must wonder if it was the failure of the Jedi teachings... or the teachers themselves. Many of the Jedi Council trained Exar Kun, Ulic... Revan and Malak. How could they not see the danger they posed? And if they could not......perhaps there was some essential part of their teachings that was flawed."

 

HK-47: "Restatement: Are you sure there aren't any meatbags, you'd like me to kill for you, master?"

 

Exile: "Don't give me any ideas... Besides, tempting me with the dark side is what I brought Kreia with us for."

 

[Deadly_Nightshade]

Heh, but I don't play as a lght-side Jedi...

[Shryke]

Not that I blame them - none of us like being moralized to, and Mical is close to doing that and stating the obvious at times, too, which probably makes him a candidate for someone the player might want to point out when approaching HK-47...

 

 

 

haha, HK and Mical.... I can picture it now...

 

Yeah... I can see how that would go down.

 

 

HK-47: "Query: Is there someone you want killed, master?"

 

Exile: "Will you stop saying that! I don't want you to kill anyone. I want nobody assassinated. I'm a jedi, not a sith!"

 

Disciple: "I'm relieved to hear you say so, even after the Order cast you out. Not that you were alone. Many Jedi defied the Order during the Mandalorian Wars - and it paved the way for the Jedi Civil War.There is no blame - all must accept. But at its core, one must wonder if it was the failure of the Jedi teachings... or the teachers themselves. Many of the Jedi Council trained Exar Kun, Ulic... Revan and Malak. How could they not see the danger they posed? And if they could not......perhaps there was some essential part of their teachings that was flawed."

 

HK-47: "Restatement: Are you sure there aren't any meatbags, you'd like me to kill for you, master?"

 

Exile: "Don't give me any ideas... Besides, tempting me with the dark side is what I brought Kreia with us for."

 

 

that works far too well

[LadyCrimson]

Now, I'm not really interested in romantic conversations with Mical, but I wanted to force choke him just because I find him so creepy. Has anyone been able to do this? I feel like I've tried dozens of times, but it never works for me. Maybe this whole thing is just bogus, since a lot of times game guides are written before the games are finished (which woulda caused major havock as far as this game goes).

Yes, I did it once.

 

 

I had to use an override file in an override folder to make it work - there was a poster named stoffe-something that gave me the file when I asked about the same thing, here, many moons ago. That thread is lost to time, but....yeah. It was funny.

 

I still have the file, if you want it. I think all you had to do was put in the folder and the option would show up under the right circumstances - which I think was when you first originally get him/can do all those convos that give you influence - but I don't remember 100% for sure.

 

Edit: The file isn't a 'mod' in the sense of say, giving your chr. powers to choke anyone anytime. It's just a file that sorta restores the convo option (or part of it) that was taken out, or something.

Edited April 24, 2008 by LadyCrimson

[Deadly_Nightshade]

Nice, I'll have to try that some time.

[babydol]

Now, I'm not really interested in romantic conversations with Mical, but I wanted to force choke him just because I find him so creepy. Has anyone been able to do this? I feel like I've tried dozens of times, but it never works for me. Maybe this whole thing is just bogus, since a lot of times game guides are written before the games are finished (which woulda caused major havock as far as this game goes).

Yes, I did it once.

 

 

I had to use an override file in an override folder to make it work - there was a poster named stoffe-something that gave me the file when I asked about the same thing, here, many moons ago. That thread is lost to time, but....yeah. It was funny.

 

I still have the file, if you want it. I think all you had to do was put in the folder and the option would show up under the right circumstances - which I think was when you first originally get him/can do all those convos that give you influence - but I don't remember 100% for sure.

 

Edit: The file isn't a 'mod' in the sense of say, giving your chr. powers to choke anyone anytime. It's just a file that sorta restores the convo option (or part of it) that was taken out, or something.

 

 

LC, you kick ass.

[Swxpert]

what file did you use?

[babydol]

what file did you use?

 

LC sent me the mod. Whoever's interested:

[Swxpert]

thank you

[Deadly_Nightshade]

Thanks, I'll have to try it!

[Swxpert]

are there any other choke files

[Deadly_Nightshade]

From the original game - no I do not think so. From mods, yes.

[H]

I'm going to play a female char next time just for that. Force Chocking Mical... I can hardly wait.