WILL THE ALMIGHTY Posted May 21, 2008 Posted May 21, 2008 Actually it makes perfect sense: AP can also stand for Austin Powers. Behold my horrible photoshop skils! "Alright, I've been thinking. When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade - make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons, what am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life's manager. Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons. Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons. I'm going to to get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!"
walkerguy Posted May 22, 2008 Author Posted May 22, 2008 (edited) No. Only JB allowed. * btw, we were putting all of those in Adam Sandler thread Edited May 22, 2008 by walkerguy Twitter | @Insevin
Nick_i_am Posted May 22, 2008 Posted May 22, 2008 Actually it makes perfect sense: AP can also stand for Austin Powers. Behold my horrible photoshop skils! gets my vote. (Approved by Fio, so feel free to use it)
SirPetrakus Posted May 28, 2008 Posted May 28, 2008 Jason Bourne all the way! Less gadgets, more cunning, handling the most unlikely of situations without any back up or equipment and still making it through just using his brain and that's his greatest weapon. Jack Bauer just needs a handgun and get everyone out of his way, pretty much like Chuck Norris but a little downplayed. He's got the government and unlimited resources to back him up, creates scenario loopholes for things that don't make any sense and is generally luckier than anyone else, I guess the Force is strong in that one. James Bond has got gadgets. He's got stuff that do the amazing for him, hardly does any reckon himself and his espionage abilities seem limited to killing people and blowing **** up, he is also as transparent as bottle of mineral water. Don't get me wrong, I like James Bond and Jack Bauer, but I find the well played story of the Bourne films over any James Bond film or season of 24, he's just plain superior and since the Bourne game ISN'T going to be released on the PC, I'd hate to find myself lacking something like that. I've loved Black Isle and now I love Obsidian, for their ability to get the right atmosphere in games, perfect scripts, dialogs that blow your mind away and endings that ... well, if you didn't complain about the ending of games like, oh, I don't know, say Jericho, Crysis and Assassin's Creed, you have NO right to complain about KotoR 2, especially since it was all LA's fault!
Diogo Ribeiro Posted June 18, 2008 Posted June 18, 2008 I wouldn't mind seeing a Bourne... Jessica Bourne, Jason's sister. I can get behind that. I bet you'd like to get behind that, you dirty monkey you.
Diogo Ribeiro Posted June 18, 2008 Posted June 18, 2008 Jack Bauer just needs a handgun and get everyone out of his way, pretty much like Chuck Norris but a little downplayed. He's got the government and unlimited resources to back him up, creates scenario loopholes for things that don't make any sense and is generally luckier than anyone else, I guess the Force is strong in that one. What? I can count at least a dozen situations where he didn't had a gun and went rogue. James Bond has got gadgets. He's got stuff that do the amazing for him, hardly does any reckon himself and his espionage abilities seem limited to killing people and blowing **** up, he is also as transparent as bottle of mineral water. The whole Roger Moore/Timothy Dalton/Pierce Brosnan trinity was a blight on the character and shouldn't be considered as the only way to portray the character. In Casino Royale, he's about as Bourne as a Bond gets.
Kelverin Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 The whole Roger Moore/Timothy Dalton/Pierce Brosnan trinity was a blight on the character and shouldn't be considered as the only way to portray the character. In Casino Royale, he's about as Bourne as a Bond gets. Remove Dalton from that list and you might have something, his portrayal is arguably the closest to what the creator of the character had in mind. J1 Visa Southern California Cleaning
Xard Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 Nope, Daniel Craig's Bond is closest to book ones. Dalton's too plotwise e.g Bond's dealing with smaller stuff instead of saving the world again and again How can it be a no ob build. It has PROVEN effective. I dare you to show your builds and I will tear you apart in an arugment about how these builds will won them. - OverPowered Godzilla (OPG)
Kelverin Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 Nope, Daniel Craig's Bond is closest to book ones. Dalton's too plotwise e.g Bond's dealing with smaller stuff instead of saving the world again and again Not sure exactly what you are referring to, but I'll take a shot. In neither Dalton film did save the world. TLD - Takes down an arms dealer LTK - Personal vendetta, goes after a drug lord for the attack on his closest friend. Both Dalton's film suffer from things out of his control, weak scripts, bad villains, questionable directing, so-so Bond girls, LTK low budget,..... But his portrayal is dead on. J1 Visa Southern California Cleaning
Xard Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 Uhh, that's what I said. Bond's dealing with smaller stuff instead of saving the world again and again How can it be a no ob build. It has PROVEN effective. I dare you to show your builds and I will tear you apart in an arugment about how these builds will won them. - OverPowered Godzilla (OPG)
Kelverin Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 Uhh, that's what I said. Bond's dealing with smaller stuff instead of saving the world again and again I do not get your point, Bond saving the world is strictly from the movies. Dalton's Bond was hardly a world savior superman and was much more human in his portrayal just like the literary character, which was my point in the first place... J1 Visa Southern California Cleaning
Xard Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 I'm saying Dalton Bond is dealing with "small stuff" and not saving the world all the time like your typical movie Bond How can it be a no ob build. It has PROVEN effective. I dare you to show your builds and I will tear you apart in an arugment about how these builds will won them. - OverPowered Godzilla (OPG)
Kelverin Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 I'm saying Dalton Bond is dealing with "small stuff" and not saving the world all the time like your typical movie Bond Which is why he does not belong in the list with Roger Moore/Pierce Brosnan. Again my point in the first place J1 Visa Southern California Cleaning
Xard Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 Yeah... I wasn't disagreeing with you! I just said Casino Royale is closest to real Bond, even closer than Dalton. How can it be a no ob build. It has PROVEN effective. I dare you to show your builds and I will tear you apart in an arugment about how these builds will won them. - OverPowered Godzilla (OPG)
Deraldin Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 (edited) Yeah... I wasn't disagreeing with you! I just said Casino Royale is closest to real Bond, even closer than Dalton. If I'm reading it right, you are disagreeing. Kelverin is saying that Dalton Bond is the closest to the book Bond. Therefore Dalton Bond is the closest to "real" bond. You are saying that Craig Bond is the closest to "real" Bond. Edited June 19, 2008 by Deraldin
Zerth Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 Bond. James Bond. And a black tie for my bond-esque char plz. I really don't want to be limited to McSneaker's '. Secret agent needs some taste and class.
Xard Posted June 20, 2008 Posted June 20, 2008 Yeah... I wasn't disagreeing with you! I just said Casino Royale is closest to real Bond, even closer than Dalton. If I'm reading it right, you are disagreeing. Kelverin is saying that Dalton Bond is the closest to the book Bond. Therefore Dalton Bond is the closest to "real" bond. You are saying that Craig Bond is the closest to "real" Bond. Yes, we are disagreeing on THAT But we are AGREEING on that Dalton Bond is fairly "real" portrayal of character and NOT IN THE SAME GROUP WITH MOORE ETC. How can it be a no ob build. It has PROVEN effective. I dare you to show your builds and I will tear you apart in an arugment about how these builds will won them. - OverPowered Godzilla (OPG)
Kelverin Posted June 20, 2008 Posted June 20, 2008 Yes, we are disagreeing on THAT Fanboy on Daniel Craig has the advantage in a sense because the producers wanted to "save the franchise" and they really tried to get back to the basics in CR, the story is based (very loosely) on a novel, unlike either of Dalton's films. Yes I know the TLD PTS is from a short story, but the rest of the film (which was written for Moore by the way) is kind of weak and the only redeeming quality it has is Dalton's performance. Check the PTS, Saunders assignation, Confrontation with Pushkin in the hotel room, "Assassination" of Pushkin...pure Bond. LTK on the other hand is Bond and only really suffers from the "low budget, Miami Vice" feel it gives off, not by Dalton's portrayal. And Dalton even smokes in his flicks Dalton>Craig Fanboy off Go about your business J1 Visa Southern California Cleaning
Diogo Ribeiro Posted June 21, 2008 Posted June 21, 2008 (edited) Remove Dalton from that list and you might have something, his portrayal is arguably the closest to what the creator of the character had in mind. I wasn't intent on claiming that the actors I mentioned were closer or further from Flemming's intention, rather of what we've come to expect from the character as we've seen in the movies. I was talking about how SirPetrakus's notion that James Bond was like a shallow Inspector Gadget on steroids. And so far, I think Craig has less to do with that idea. Edited June 21, 2008 by Diogo Ribeiro
Kelverin Posted June 22, 2008 Posted June 22, 2008 I was talking about how SirPetrakus's notion that James Bond was like a shallow Inspector Gadget on steroids. And so far, I think Craig has less to do with that idea. Oh I agree with that statement about the gadgets, but I thought Dalton was able to rise above them (and the weak script) to bring a human element to Bond not really seen since OHMSS, a gadget less film by the way. My personal favorite. Does Craig really deserve credit for the producers finally getting there **** together and going back to the source material they should have been following in the first place? To make this about AP "We have four primary weapons that you can switch between at will during a mission, plus your melee attacks and special weapons and gadgets. Makes me nervous, hopefully the gadgets are not too over the top. J1 Visa Southern California Cleaning
Diogo Ribeiro Posted June 22, 2008 Posted June 22, 2008 I think it's a combination of those, more than likely. Dalton wasn't really the issue, since he's a good actor, but his 007 movies suffered from having a truer Bond in a story that didn't care much for it. Craig and Dalton are somewhat close in portrayal, but the edge, as you say, likely comes down to that particular kairos of acting and film making. Which in turn would make the whole conversation a bit pointless, since it's the producers' who usually have a say in the final product.
Walsingham Posted June 23, 2008 Posted June 23, 2008 Dalton was a good Bond, and he was let down by the script, but no-one comes close to Daniel Craig's Bond. Genuine nutloop. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
Humodour Posted July 6, 2008 Posted July 6, 2008 To make this about AP "We have four primary weapons that you can switch between at will during a mission, plus your melee attacks and special weapons and gadgets. Makes me nervous, hopefully the gadgets are not too over the top. I really wouldn't mind if they were NOLF type gadgets tbh.
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