UFO story

[taks]

some former pilots are pushing to reopen government initiated research into the UFO pheonmenon.

 

now, i for one am quite skeptical of most UFO claims. i'm quite certain that nearly all can be explained either by a) classified projects conducted by various governments or b) natural phenomena, either known or unknown, but without enough data from the "sighting" to draw clear conclusions. that said, if there is any single supernatural phenomena in the world that i believe is at least possible, it would be the existence of extraterrestrial life. of course, that such life exists is one level of possibility, and that it would be visiting us is an entirely different matter with a much lower probability.

 

thoughts?

 

taks

Edited November 13, 2007 by taks

[Meshugger]

They're all part of the Aurora-project

 

Seriously though, i do not mind research into the phenomenon itself, as long as they investigate them as Unidentified Flying Objects. It is however, a difficult task to do, since one can easily be associated with the "Aliensarealreadyhereplottingworlddominationwithloveandcooperatingwithillumi

atimajestic12l0l!11"-people that take up 99,8 percent of all UFO-enthusiasts.

[taks]

indeed, i agree. an unidentified flying object is more than likely one of the two scenarios i described above. it could be that some are actual alien UFOs, or alien USOs as has been proposed, but i'd rate it as highly unlikely, particularly the latter.

 

taks

[samm]

Just like all unexplained phenomena, this interests me greatly. I'm not crying "Yes, it's alien!", but I love research being done in scientifically vague matters such as this. So thanks for the link, taks.

[taks]

i absolutely love all of the UFO stories that get done on the various discovery channels, as well as the stories about the past where some "crackpot" has an interesting new theory about our history (which sometimes includes UFO references), e.g. dating the pyramids or other egyptian monuments. not so much because i think they are true, but simply because they could be true. we know so much, and yet so little. unfortunately, the bulk of this type of work is carried out by the so-called heretics, so it never gets the focus from legitimate science that i would like to see (which translates to research funding).

 

taks

[Tale]

I know someone who seriously believes the purpose of the pyramids is to resonate the Earth to a specific frequency.

[Gorgon]

The UFO phenomina is a misnomer. Of course there are things you see in the sky that you can't immediately explain, why would'nt there be.

 

As for whether aliens have been scouting human society since the 50s, or a pervailing urban myth has simply taken on a life of it's own, I lean toward the latter.

[Dark_Raven]

The truth is out there.

[taks]

I know someone who seriously believes the purpose of the pyramids is to resonate the Earth to a specific frequency.

von daniken thinks they are simply older than we think... the same goes for the sphinx.

 

taks

[Guard Dog]

While I certainly do not rule out the possibility of alien life, I seriously doubt the have been paying us much if any attention. Ans I certainly do nor believe we have a crashed spacecraft in any secret bases in the desert. To back that uo I would simply point out that if there were such a thing:

 

1) Short of killing everyone involved there is no way to keep it secret. Something like that will get out. (I use the same argument on those who claim the Apollo moon landings were faked)

 

2) Evidently they do not have their best and brightest working on it because there have been no "giant leaps" in the progress of science and technology. Every development or advancement for th last 100 or more years has been predicated on the one before, there have been no sudden depatures on the path of progress to suggest knowledge has been gleaned from an alien source.

[taks]

1) Short of killing everyone involved there is no way to keep it secret. Something like that will get out. (I use the same argument on those who claim the Apollo moon landings were faked)

the roswell thing really is something that could have been covered up by a massive disinformation campaign. remember, lots of folks _did_ speak out, but they have been largely discredited. personally, the "disinformation" that resulted was probably more a bit of incompetence, but it served its purpose to deflect attention from what was likely happening (some classified program).

 

too many people worked on the apollo missions, however, for disinformation to really work. 10s of thousands cannot be silenced.

 

2) Evidently they do not have their best and brightest working on it because there have been no "giant leaps" in the progress of science and technology. Every development or advancement for th last 100 or more years has been predicated on the one before, there have been no sudden depatures on the path of progress to suggest knowledge has been gleaned from an alien source.

well, that's a bit more difficult to say for sure. suppose something did land there, and we did recover some great new technology, how would you ever know whether technological advances that happened, no matter how insignificant, were not a result of the alien technology? perhaps had there been no landing (devil's advocate here), we might not have fiber optics, kevlar, etc... perhaps the gov't really is smart enough to trickle things out, or perhaps the technology is sooooo advanced that we're still trying to reverse engineer it?

 

taks

[SteveThaiBinh]

I suspect that the minority of UFOs that can't be explained by conventional means are probably vastly expensive and foolish military experiments too embarrassing for governments to reveal. Then again, who knows? I also suspect that if our government knew of alien life, they would have revealed it by now as a way of distracting attention away from their latest tax hike.

[Musopticon?]

The Cold War was a lie.

 

A facade created to fool the unthinking masses, the cold war was a plan to fool everyone to turn their gaze away from the stars. While Earth languished under the cleaving iron curtain, a secret war raged throughout our solar system, on Jupiter's moons and on Mars, in space and in gassy athmospheres of distant stars. A war for the think-metal, nanometal originally found in the Roswell crash zone, waged with highly advanced warmachines sprung from the think tanks of Soviet and "Free world". A war whose proxies all the conflicts of the 60's were. The real cold war, in the freezing depth of space and the crushing atmosphere of never-ending methane deserts. This "biometal" could be near-instantly formed into whatever suited the needs of the powers. In specially prepared melting pots, the alloy could be programmed to form into anything from giant walkers to cd-players. You think technological advancement was fast in the 20th century? That was merely a ruse, what must have seemed great leaps to the regular terran, was actually an ingeniously conceited slow leak off the near-infinite knowledge gained from biometal to Earth. In secret, the powers that be made a pact to keep the metal under cover and continue the proxy wars to conceal what actually was a conflict of stellar proportions.

 

The two sides seemed to be locked in eternal combat, until someone, some misguided cretin in either side of the conflict managed to merge the biometal into a human body. What resulted was a super soldier program, intended to end the war which sprung all wars. Never even considering the origins of this wonder commodity, the scientists recklessly exploited the living metal, unconsiderate of what might happen. When Earth celebrated the victory of man over space and Armstrong walked the surface of moon, simultaneously gigantic walkers and jets piloted by men born from a union of Adam and xenosteel made their first steps on the surface of Titan. But then something unexpected and critical happened: While the super soldiers, called Furies, were a success, something stirred in the nanometal. Ironically, the soldiers did end the war, but not because they were an asset, but a threat. Some kind of genetic memory in the metal turned the supermen on their masters. The two sides of conflict saw the threat to both of them and in secret unified their forces: Biometal would become a gift for all of Earth, but only in organized secrecy. The International Space Defense Force was born and not nearly too early as, when the 80's came to their tumultous end on Earth, the original masters of the biometal were found.

 

The Scions had returned.

 

 

And after reciting all that from memory, I now need to go play Battlezone 1 and 2. Goddamn you all!

[ghosta]

It is a big universe out there. With trillions of stars which means there are trillions of the space rocks that we call planets. So logically their's billions of places ware life could potentially exists. That said, if aliens were to travel to some random planet they would have a 1 in a trillion chance of finding us. So UFO sightings can legitamently be classified as non existent.

[mkreku]

The same guy who thinks all socialism is doomed, the greenhouse effect is non-existent and that Sweden receives well-fare from the US also believes in UFO's. Why am I not surprised?

[Walsingham]

The same guy who thinks all socialism is doomed, the greenhouse effect is non-existent and that Sweden receives well-fare from the US also believes in UFO's. Why am I not surprised?