Brutal Legend - Tim Schafer's new project

[Purkake]

I might just as well ask why there are any PC games at all, Nightshape?

 

PC only titles really are low budget affairs, or titles pretty certain to shift a shedload of units, ala Diablo 3. Obviously you have MMO's aswell but in the grand scheme of things, there aren't alot of PC games being released week in week out that aren't just ports from 360.

 

Who said anything about PC-only? We are talking about Br

[Nightshape]

If they didn't why are they still putting out PC games?

 

Well put it like this, if you want to save some $$$ developing a game, and ensure that you're going to sell enough to be profitable, cutting the PC version is a fairly good option. Develop for 2 SKU's instead on 2 + (2^n) instantly you're saving money, you're not AS exposed to piracy.

 

Obviously with some titles the budget means that they can maintain a PC build aswell, see it's not just a matter of compiling some code, all the data has to be built for the platforms aswell. While a PC version of pretty much every game exists at some point, the state of that build is generally not maintained because the focus is the console, infact the lead platform tends to be PS3.

 

This is why you'll often find PC titles released 6 months or so afterwards, because they're fixing up the build and getting the data togeather.

 

Regardless, it's rare that the PC is lead platform, I believe Risen is likely to be the only title I am aware of where this can be assumed.

[Nightshape]

I might just as well ask why there are any PC games at all, Nightshape?

 

PC only titles really are low budget affairs, or titles pretty certain to shift a shedload of units, ala Diablo 3. Obviously you have MMO's aswell but in the grand scheme of things, there aren't alot of PC games being released week in week out that aren't just ports from 360.

 

Who said anything about PC-only? We are talking about Br

[Purkake]

Thanks for the common knowledge 101.

 

The reason why PC games sometimes come 6 months later is quite often because of an exclusive contract with a platform holder, like what happened with Mass Effect.

 

I'm not saying that there should be a PC version of Br

Edited October 3, 2009 by Purkake

[Nightshape]

Thanks for the common knowledge 101.

 

The reason why PC games sometimes come 6 months later is quite often because of an exclusive contract with a platform holder, like what happened with Mass Effect.

 

I'm not saying that there should be a PC version of Br

[Purkake]

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Either back up what you're saying or stop making crap up.

Edited October 3, 2009 by Purkake

[mkreku]

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Either back up what you're saying or stop making crap up.

You mean, like you and your ginormous game collection?

[Purkake]

You got me, mkreku!

 

Could you go troll some other threads now?

Edited October 3, 2009 by Purkake

[Oner]

Why couldn't you guys resolve this with a simple "200k people buy the PC version and the port costs are already covered"?

[Purkake]

Because we don't know exactly how much the porting costs, I guess.

[Oner]

I highly doubt it's 5 million USD/Euros/Pounds.

[Purkake]

All I can deduct with my super deductive skills is that it still pays to do that because big titles like MW2, DA, ME2, SC:C are still coming to the PC.

[Morgoth]

I just got an old rusty Xbox 360 on ebay for 100

[Blarghagh]

Can anyone enlighten me what the bad stuff is that comes along with PC as a platform?

[Morgoth]

Can anyone enlighten me what the bad stuff is that comes along with PC as a platform?

It needs usually more QA.

[Purkake]

Can anyone enlighten me what the bad stuff is that comes along with PC as a platform?

More technical problems because of different hardware configurations and piracy.

 

Those are the ones everyone brings up, there might be more.

Edited October 3, 2009 by Purkake

[Wrath of Dagon]

The bad stuff with the PC is that everything gets pirated up the wazoo, which even hurts console sales. That's why a lot of PC ports get released a while after the console game. The same might happen with BL, depending how well it does.

[Purkake]

They usually release the PC version a couple of weeks after the console ones if they are doing it because of piracy like with Batman. If the delay is just about 6 months, it's a license thing. Anything other than that is the PC port taking longer or something completely unrelated.

[Nightshape]

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Either back up what you're saying or stop making crap up.

 

 

It's a little different for me, I can't point you to an interview or article because that's not where my information comes from, it comes from actual experience in industry and conversations I've had with other industry professionals.

 

That's not to say your points aren't valid at some level Purkake, delayed releases can be related to exclusivity deals, it isn't the only reason, but I've explained several other reasons why the PC isn't getting alot of support, I thought I would share this with everyone, but obviously I'm making it all up. Now you, you're 100% correct and know everything, and the people actually inside the industry don't know anything, we're all a bunch of tards that sit round all day spunking up the wall and talking about porn, while fawning over the single female in the office. Occasionally we introduce a new bug, or make some bad art.

Edited October 3, 2009 by Nightshape

[Purkake]

Now you, you're 100% correct and know everything, and the people actually inside the industry don't know anything, we're all a bunch of tards that sit round all day spunking up the wall and talking about porn, while fawning over the single female in the office. Occasionally we introduce a new bug, or make some bad art.

 

Yeah, I totally said that.

 

I understand that making the PC port costs more money and might not be the best idea in some cases, but looking at some big multiplatform AAA titles coming out in the near future(DA, MW2, ME2, AC2, SC:C), you'll see that most of them still have PC ports. So either all those publishers are making incredibly stupid business moves or making PC ports is still worth the money.

 

I'm not arguing that PC games sell as well as console ones or that they don't have their own unique-ish problems associated with the platform, but I also don't see less of them this year than I did last year.

Edited October 3, 2009 by Purkake

[Nightshape]

Now you, you're 100% correct and know everything, and the people actually inside the industry don't know anything, we're all a bunch of tards that sit round all day spunking up the wall and talking about porn, while fawning over the single female in the office. Occasionally we introduce a new bug, or make some bad art.

 

Yeah, I totally said that.

 

I understand that making the PC port costs more money and might not be the best idea in some cases, but looking at some big multiplatform AAA titles coming out in the near future(DA, MW2, ME2, AC2, SC:C), you'll see that most of them still have PC ports. So either all those publishers are making incredibly stupid business moves or making PC ports is still worth the money.

 

I'm not arguing that PC games sell as well as console ones or that they don't have their own unique-ish problems associated with the platform, but I also don't see less of them this year than I did last year.

 

All those games will be expected to make back alot more than it cost to make ports for them. Also, one has to take a moment to think about technology etc... So yeah, big multiplatform titles often have PC sku's, but then again, when you're working on sequels, as most of those are, it makes alot of sense, as does something like DA which will hopefully have a strong PC modding community.

 

Brutal Legend has had a hard enough time getting to market, if dropping a PC sku made the project more attractive for a publisher then you do it.

[Purkake]

It's a possibility, but I'm still pretty sure that they will release the PC port in ~6 months.

 

What are you arguing about anyway? It's totally possible that they dropped the PC SKU for the reasons mentioned. That alone doesn't mean that making PC ports is no longer financially viable, BL is pretty much an edge case anyway.

Edited October 3, 2009 by Purkake

[Oner]

Can anyone enlighten me what the bad stuff is that comes along with PC as a platform?

A lot more pirates?

[GreasyDogMeat]

the people actually inside the industry don't know anything, we're all a bunch of tards that sit round all day spunking up the wall and talking about porn, while fawning over the single female in the office. Occasionally we introduce a new bug, or make some bad art.

I totally knew it! Sounds like my dream job!

[Nightshape]

It's a possibility, but I'm still pretty sure that they will release the PC port in ~6 months.

 

What are you arguing about anyway? It's totally possible that they dropped the PC SKU for the reasons mentioned. That alone doesn't mean that making PC ports is no longer financially viable, BL is pretty much an edge case anyway.

 

Well this is the thing, if Brutal Legend does as well as it seems it'll do, I'd be shocked if we don't see a PC port. So yeah, it''s likely that it will be viable.