Meshugger Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 and it always feels like you have low ammo. That's a pro in my book! Yup. The sense of desperation vital for a "-shock" game. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkreku Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Pros: DX10 Graphics and EAX 5.0 sound. It sucks you in big time. Loads of atmosphere and the weapons to match. One of the best set of levels I have ever played, from a visual standpoint. You feel you want to keep playing because you want to understand this world. Good voices and music. Cons: As an FPS it seems a bit gimmicky with the tricks and spells and what not, and it always feels like you have low ammo. I could not help but just resort to throwing objects and corpses at enemies by the game's end. Combat just feels so freaken random, I prefer FEAR in terms of combat. Last boss should have been more creative. In game physics only animates at 25 fps, so objects look like they move laggy even if your fps is 60. Conclusion: If a game was released that contained FEAR's combat in Bioshock's levels, the game would be perfect 10 in my book. As it stands now I still recommend Bioshock because it's got good levels and story (with an insane plot twist involving 3 words), and that makes you forgive the somewhat disappointing combat. Thanks. Sounds just as what I am expecting. A souped up FPS that's got every reviewer in the world to jump on the big hype train. I'm lowering my expectations. Swedes, go to: Spel2, for the latest game reviews in swedish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidesco Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Oh you like that desperation feeling huh? It was the whole point of System Shock 2, and should be the point of Bioshock. "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian touristI am Dan Quayle of the Romans.I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands.Heja Sverige!!Everyone should cuffawkle more.The wrench is your friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkreku Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Oh you like that desperation feeling huh? It was the whole point of System Shock 2, and should be the point of Bioshock. You're starting to sound like Hades. Swedes, go to: Spel2, for the latest game reviews in swedish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 I'd have to agree with Pidesco, low-ammo definitely made Shock2 better, so why shouldn't it do any good to Bioshock either? Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidesco Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Oh you like that desperation feeling huh? It was the whole point of System Shock 2, and should be the point of Bioshock. You're starting to sound like Hades. Hey! "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian touristI am Dan Quayle of the Romans.I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands.Heja Sverige!!Everyone should cuffawkle more.The wrench is your friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pop Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 There's really no reason you should feel always low on ammo unless you're overly relying on the guns to see you through. With the right tonics you can balance out the Plasmids and the guns and always come out with maximum EVE, health and ammo at the end of every encounter. But I imagine at harder difficulties it's more of a problem. Join me, and we shall make Production Beards a reality! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkreku Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Gamespot claims Bioshock on the PC is quite buggy. That's the first I've heard of that. Quite unexpected too. Source: http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/bioshock...7215&page=1 Swedes, go to: Spel2, for the latest game reviews in swedish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidesco Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Gamespot claims Bioshock on the PC is quite buggy. That's the first I've heard of that. Quite unexpected too. Source: http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/bioshock...7215&page=1 There's been complaining all over the official forums. It's seems to me, like it's just the case of a very vocal minority making things seem worse than it is, though. "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian touristI am Dan Quayle of the Romans.I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands.Heja Sverige!!Everyone should cuffawkle more.The wrench is your friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tale Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 I never feel low on ammo. It's kind of typical in that I'm almost always full. Maybe it's the way I play, though. "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte Carlo Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 I am lucky in that a guy on my team at work is a fanatical gamer. He has taken a week off for when this game is released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 I haven't gotten it today, so it must come tomorrow. If not, I'm gonna kick some kitten for sure. Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaftan Barlast Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Ok, played through the demo. Im still not the least impressed by anything else than the Art Design, which is a complete and utter waste on a runrunrun FPS like this. ..and creepy little girls with teddybears hasnt been scary since "Shining". That "The Ring" ripoff in FEAR was annoying enough. DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tale Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Ok, played through the demo. Im still not the least impressed by anything else than the Art Design, which is a complete and utter waste on a runrunrun FPS like this. ..and creepy little girls with teddybears hasnt been scary since "Shining". That "The Ring" ripoff in FEAR was annoying enough. They're not meant to be scary! They're meant to be tragic, if anything. An objective in the game is to save them. No, really save them. Turn them back into normal little girls. They don't attack you, ever. Their bodyguards don't attack you either. Only ever if you attack first. "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 And don't forget Demos are usually very linaer because they often are snipped from the beginning part of the full version, which often serves as a tutorial. Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidesco Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Posts at TTLG indicate that the game is just a straight up shooter. A good, relatively open shooter but still just a standard shooter. I think a Swedish journalist also said as much some time ago in a preview. Considering Ken Levine repeatedly said it was possible to play the game stealthily, I'm not too happy. You can't even walk in the game, and the splicers, supposedly don't react to any sounds you make. "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian touristI am Dan Quayle of the Romans.I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands.Heja Sverige!!Everyone should cuffawkle more.The wrench is your friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tale Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 (edited) It seems to me as if they react, not always but sometimes. I just got a Gene Tonic that quiets footsteps, actually. I would definitely disagree with "straight up" shooter. The hacking systems, choices, and plasmid and weapon advancement (I've only read about advancement from the tip screens, not experienced it so far) would make me more prone to calling it action-adventure. Edited August 23, 2007 by Tale "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaftan Barlast Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 If the demo is anything like the full game, then nope. Its just a straightforward shoot&run FPS. Tale: Aaaaaw, man! You mean I dont get to pull a **** Cheney on them? DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tale Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 (edited) Tale: Aaaaaw, man! You mean I dont get to pull a **** Cheney on them? When you dispatch their bodyguard, you're given two options. To harvest or rescue. If you harvest, it kills them and you get a lot of ADAM (which serves as a currency/XP system you can use to get new abilities or directly increase aspects of the character (max health/EVE/plasmid slots)). If you rescue them, you get less ADAM, it turns them into a regular little girl, and you get free unique abilities every so often. Edited August 23, 2007 by Tale "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bokishi Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Gamespot claims Bioshock on the PC is quite buggy. That's the first I've heard of that. Quite unexpected too. Source: http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/bioshock...7215&page=1 Yep, had to disable SLI because of crashes in menus. I also had to send an activation request like three times before I was able to play. DX10 mode does not support AA at the moment Current 3DMark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bokishi Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 If the demo is anything like the full game, then nope. Its just a straightforward shoot&run FPS. Nah, levels are like hubs where you tackle different objectives at your choosing. You can also back track the levels to find things that you missed. Current 3DMark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deraldin Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 Someone is making a PS2.0 patch for Bioshock! I just might be able to play this a 5FPS at 800x600! Bioshock Forums Topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tale Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 Hey Bok, how many times did you upgrade your health/eve? "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bottom Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 (edited) Well, I'm around 5 hours in and at this stage I think I'm in love with this game. It's like System Shock 2 with more of a pulse...that would turn off some I guess but I actually think I like this better than SS2 so far. The game is very linear though, I think you mainly have to backtrack only to unlock secrets with your new powers a la Zelda, but that doesn't bother me cause the story, setting and combat are so damn good. I think to call this a straight-up shooter is ignoring all the thought that's put into every room and all the options you have in combat. In short, this game rocks and unless it runs out of ideas I'll still be ranting about it after I'm finished. Awesome. Btw I think we should keep this thread free of spoilers...I know there are some whoppers in the game Edited August 24, 2007 by Big Bottom The best flash game ever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bokishi Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 Hey Bok, how many times did you upgrade your health/eve? Lost count of EVE, but about 4 times for the health. it doesn't really matter though since towards the end, maximum health gets reduced by.... ok ill shut up now Current 3DMark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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