April 23, 200718 yr Figured that this would work best in the PnP forum. For those that don't know Dragon = Player content magazine and Dungeon = DM content (adventures) magazine. Paizo Publishing Announcement Wizards Press Release I'm really disappointed over all of this. I've been a subscriber to Dungeon and Dragon for close to two years now and bought Dragon at the newsstand for several years before subscribing, which isn't even close to the 30 years that these magazines have been in circulation. I've been able to find something great in just about every issue that I own and while I may not have had any real opportunities to use the material it's consistently been of a high quality. Paizo will continue their Adventure Paths (Campaign modules, start at level one end at 20) through a new "book" called Pathfinder but what upsets me most is that there doesn't seem to be anything to replace the void that Dragon will leave behind in the player content arena. Apparently WotC is also going to be moving their D&D content that would normally have been in the magazines to an online format. I'm still kind of in shock over all this so I'll leave it at that for now. :sad: Edited April 23, 200718 yr by Deraldin
April 23, 200718 yr That sucks. Those magazines had a lot of good information and I love some of the artwork on their covers. I still have all of my copies. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed.
April 23, 200718 yr This has been brewing for months and doesn't come a shock to me at all. It costs money to print those magazines and being a niche market with rising cost the only way to continue such service is to canned the print form and go PDF. Hell, as PnP progresses I think that printed game books will be of the past and everything will be on PDF. The vast majority of the d20 System is on electronic format already and about half my gaming group uses laptops for keeping track of their character and to have the SRD ready at their finger tips. Hell, the majority of all my Dragon magazines are already in PDF format. Edited April 23, 200718 yr by Sand Murphy's Law of Computer Gaming: The listed minimum specifications written on the box by the publisher are not the minimum specifications of the game set by the developer. @\NightandtheShape/@ - "Because you're a bizzare strange deranged human?" Walsingham- "Sand - always rushing around, stirring up apathy." Joseph Bulock - "Another headache, courtesy of Sand"
April 23, 200718 yr The hell with them. I like that nice colored magazine not some cheap PDF file. Edited April 23, 200718 yr by Dark_Raven Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed.
April 23, 200718 yr The hell with them. I like that nice colored magazine not some cheap PDF file. I prefer not to have a clutter so I either get my books all on PDF or I scan them in and put the hardcovers in a secured box. A LCD screen is my DM Screen. Murphy's Law of Computer Gaming: The listed minimum specifications written on the box by the publisher are not the minimum specifications of the game set by the developer. @\NightandtheShape/@ - "Because you're a bizzare strange deranged human?" Walsingham- "Sand - always rushing around, stirring up apathy." Joseph Bulock - "Another headache, courtesy of Sand"
April 23, 200718 yr In many years from now they will be collectors item and worth more than the cover price. Edited April 23, 200718 yr by Dark_Raven Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed.
April 23, 200718 yr To be honest it makes a lot more sense to cut their publishing outlays by going internet, despite the loss of customer satisfaction. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
April 23, 200718 yr Author The hell with them. I like that nice colored magazine not some cheap PDF file. I prefer not to have a clutter so I either get my books all on PDF or I scan them in and put the hardcovers in a secured box. A LCD screen is my DM Screen. I feel like that guy in the information center of Vault City in Fallout 2 who had all his books taken away so they could be replaced by electronic copies. A PDF just can't replace a hard copy. I hate PDFs.
April 23, 200718 yr Just print your own, personal shiny hardcopy of the PDF. OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT
April 23, 200718 yr I just sold a bunch of my D&D books and I threw away all of my Dragon/Dungeon mags years ago. I don't have the room for any of that stuff anymore and I'd just as gladly use .pdfs and print out selected pages when necessary. I mean seriously, who really needs all of these taking up shelf space? http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books01.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books02.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books03.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books04.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books05.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books06.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books07.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books08.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books09.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books10.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books11.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books12.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books13.jpg twitter tyme
April 23, 200718 yr http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books06.jpg I remember playing them ... http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books08.jpg ... with them ..! Boy, that was ... 1985 ..! OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT
April 23, 200718 yr Good Lord! Anyhow, a magazine is quite nice. It's not like I can haul my computer into the bed and read these things before I sleep. On the other hand, I just can't see having all that around the house. I've got a bunch of old dnd books. Maybe I should ebay some of it. Anyone remember the old dnd boxed set? The one with the faint bluish tinge and a human fighting a dragon? For you youngsters, it came out BEFORE the red basic set. I still have that, although I don't nearly as much stuff as Sawyer does. I wouldn't know where to put it. Fionavar's Holliday Wishes to all members of our online community: Happy Holidays Join the revelry at the Obsidian Plays channel:Obsidian Plays Remembering tarna, Phosphor, Metadigital, and Visceris. Drink mead heartily in the halls of Valhalla, my friends!
April 23, 200718 yr heh.... I think JE's collection scares the lady's away. "I'm a programmer at a games company... REET GOOD!" - Me
April 23, 200718 yr I just sold a bunch of my D&D books and I threw away all of my Dragon/Dungeon mags years ago. I don't have the room for any of that stuff anymore and I'd just as gladly use .pdfs and print out selected pages when necessary. You could have sold them at a used bookstore or a garage sale. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed.
April 24, 200718 yr Yeah, because advertising world-wide will not gain more demand, leading to a greater return. OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT
April 25, 200718 yr Author Apparently Paizo wasn't the only one to get a license yanked. Dragonlance is gone too.
April 25, 200718 yr I just sold a bunch of my D&D books and I threw away all of my Dragon/Dungeon mags years ago. I don't have the room for any of that stuff anymore and I'd just as gladly use .pdfs and print out selected pages when necessary. I mean seriously, who really needs all of these taking up shelf space? http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books01.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books02.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books03.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books04.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books05.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books06.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books07.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books08.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books09.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books10.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books11.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books12.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books13.jpg Nerd. Join me, and we shall make Production Beards a reality!
April 26, 200718 yr ARGH! I nearly never get my hands on those! Why didn't you just send it as aid for me here in Hungary! :'(
April 26, 200718 yr Is foreign aid deductible on your personal taxes and what form would he use? Fionavar's Holliday Wishes to all members of our online community: Happy Holidays Join the revelry at the Obsidian Plays channel:Obsidian Plays Remembering tarna, Phosphor, Metadigital, and Visceris. Drink mead heartily in the halls of Valhalla, my friends!
April 26, 200718 yr You could have sold them at a used bookstore or a garage sale. I had cut a lot of pictures out of them. Also, they were from the late 80s, early 90s -- not rare enough to really be worth anything, but old enough to be archived in the Dragon Magazine CD compilation. twitter tyme
April 26, 200718 yr I just sold a bunch of my D&D books and I threw away all of my Dragon/Dungeon mags years ago. I don't have the room for any of that stuff anymore and I'd just as gladly use .pdfs and print out selected pages when necessary. I mean seriously, who really needs all of these taking up shelf space? http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books01.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books02.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books03.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books04.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books05.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books06.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books07.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books08.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books09.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books10.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books11.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books12.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books13.jpg Cool! Alothough it reminds me of the awfulness of DnD art... "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian tourist I am Dan Quayle of the Romans. I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands. Heja Sverige!! Everyone should cuffawkle more. The wrench is your friend.
April 26, 200718 yr Apparently Paizo wasn't the only one to get a license yanked. Dragonlance is gone too. maybe Obsidian could catch that license? atleast the PC one?
April 30, 200718 yr while i think it suxs. it costs money to print them. and i bet they never recycled the left overs Strength through Mercy Head Torturor of the Cult of the Anti-gnome
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