Deraldin Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 (edited) Figured that this would work best in the PnP forum. For those that don't know Dragon = Player content magazine and Dungeon = DM content (adventures) magazine. Paizo Publishing Announcement Wizards Press Release I'm really disappointed over all of this. I've been a subscriber to Dungeon and Dragon for close to two years now and bought Dragon at the newsstand for several years before subscribing, which isn't even close to the 30 years that these magazines have been in circulation. I've been able to find something great in just about every issue that I own and while I may not have had any real opportunities to use the material it's consistently been of a high quality. Paizo will continue their Adventure Paths (Campaign modules, start at level one end at 20) through a new "book" called Pathfinder but what upsets me most is that there doesn't seem to be anything to replace the void that Dragon will leave behind in the player content arena. Apparently WotC is also going to be moving their D&D content that would normally have been in the magazines to an online format. I'm still kind of in shock over all this so I'll leave it at that for now. :sad: Edited April 23, 2007 by Deraldin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Raven Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 That sucks. Those magazines had a lot of good information and I love some of the artwork on their covers. I still have all of my copies. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sand Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 (edited) This has been brewing for months and doesn't come a shock to me at all. It costs money to print those magazines and being a niche market with rising cost the only way to continue such service is to canned the print form and go PDF. Hell, as PnP progresses I think that printed game books will be of the past and everything will be on PDF. The vast majority of the d20 System is on electronic format already and about half my gaming group uses laptops for keeping track of their character and to have the SRD ready at their finger tips. Hell, the majority of all my Dragon magazines are already in PDF format. Edited April 23, 2007 by Sand Murphy's Law of Computer Gaming: The listed minimum specifications written on the box by the publisher are not the minimum specifications of the game set by the developer. @\NightandtheShape/@ - "Because you're a bizzare strange deranged human?" Walsingham- "Sand - always rushing around, stirring up apathy." Joseph Bulock - "Another headache, courtesy of Sand" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Raven Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 (edited) The hell with them. I like that nice colored magazine not some cheap PDF file. Edited April 23, 2007 by Dark_Raven Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sand Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 The hell with them. I like that nice colored magazine not some cheap PDF file. I prefer not to have a clutter so I either get my books all on PDF or I scan them in and put the hardcovers in a secured box. A LCD screen is my DM Screen. Murphy's Law of Computer Gaming: The listed minimum specifications written on the box by the publisher are not the minimum specifications of the game set by the developer. @\NightandtheShape/@ - "Because you're a bizzare strange deranged human?" Walsingham- "Sand - always rushing around, stirring up apathy." Joseph Bulock - "Another headache, courtesy of Sand" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Raven Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 (edited) In many years from now they will be collectors item and worth more than the cover price. Edited April 23, 2007 by Dark_Raven Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 To be honest it makes a lot more sense to cut their publishing outlays by going internet, despite the loss of customer satisfaction. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deraldin Posted April 23, 2007 Author Share Posted April 23, 2007 The hell with them. I like that nice colored magazine not some cheap PDF file. I prefer not to have a clutter so I either get my books all on PDF or I scan them in and put the hardcovers in a secured box. A LCD screen is my DM Screen. I feel like that guy in the information center of Vault City in Fallout 2 who had all his books taken away so they could be replaced by electronic copies. A PDF just can't replace a hard copy. I hate PDFs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 Just print your own, personal shiny hardcopy of the PDF. OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.E. Sawyer Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 I just sold a bunch of my D&D books and I threw away all of my Dragon/Dungeon mags years ago. I don't have the room for any of that stuff anymore and I'd just as gladly use .pdfs and print out selected pages when necessary. I mean seriously, who really needs all of these taking up shelf space? http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books01.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books02.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books03.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books04.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books05.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books06.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books07.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books08.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books09.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books10.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books11.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books12.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books13.jpg twitter tyme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books06.jpg I remember playing them ... http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books08.jpg ... with them ..! Boy, that was ... 1985 ..! OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cantousent Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 Good Lord! Anyhow, a magazine is quite nice. It's not like I can haul my computer into the bed and read these things before I sleep. On the other hand, I just can't see having all that around the house. I've got a bunch of old dnd books. Maybe I should ebay some of it. Anyone remember the old dnd boxed set? The one with the faint bluish tinge and a human fighting a dragon? For you youngsters, it came out BEFORE the red basic set. I still have that, although I don't nearly as much stuff as Sawyer does. I wouldn't know where to put it. Fionavar's Holliday Wishes to all members of our online community: Happy Holidays Join the revelry at the Obsidian Plays channel:Obsidian Plays Remembering tarna, Phosphor, Metadigital, and Visceris. Drink mead heartily in the halls of Valhalla, my friends! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@\NightandtheShape/@ Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 heh.... I think JE's collection scares the lady's away. "I'm a programmer at a games company... REET GOOD!" - Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Raven Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 I just sold a bunch of my D&D books and I threw away all of my Dragon/Dungeon mags years ago. I don't have the room for any of that stuff anymore and I'd just as gladly use .pdfs and print out selected pages when necessary. You could have sold them at a used bookstore or a garage sale. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 Yeah, because advertising world-wide will not gain more demand, leading to a greater return. OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deraldin Posted April 25, 2007 Author Share Posted April 25, 2007 Apparently Paizo wasn't the only one to get a license yanked. Dragonlance is gone too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pop Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 I just sold a bunch of my D&D books and I threw away all of my Dragon/Dungeon mags years ago. I don't have the room for any of that stuff anymore and I'd just as gladly use .pdfs and print out selected pages when necessary. I mean seriously, who really needs all of these taking up shelf space? http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books01.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books02.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books03.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books04.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books05.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books06.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books07.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books08.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books09.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books10.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books11.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books12.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books13.jpg Nerd. Join me, and we shall make Production Beards a reality! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorian Drake Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 ARGH! I nearly never get my hands on those! Why didn't you just send it as aid for me here in Hungary! :'( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cantousent Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 Is foreign aid deductible on your personal taxes and what form would he use? Fionavar's Holliday Wishes to all members of our online community: Happy Holidays Join the revelry at the Obsidian Plays channel:Obsidian Plays Remembering tarna, Phosphor, Metadigital, and Visceris. Drink mead heartily in the halls of Valhalla, my friends! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.E. Sawyer Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 You could have sold them at a used bookstore or a garage sale. I had cut a lot of pictures out of them. Also, they were from the late 80s, early 90s -- not rare enough to really be worth anything, but old enough to be archived in the Dragon Magazine CD compilation. twitter tyme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidesco Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 I just sold a bunch of my D&D books and I threw away all of my Dragon/Dungeon mags years ago. I don't have the room for any of that stuff anymore and I'd just as gladly use .pdfs and print out selected pages when necessary. I mean seriously, who really needs all of these taking up shelf space? http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books01.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books02.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books03.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books04.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books05.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books06.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books07.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books08.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books09.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books10.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books11.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books12.jpg http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/books4sale/books13.jpg Cool! Alothough it reminds me of the awfulness of DnD art... "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian touristI am Dan Quayle of the Romans.I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands.Heja Sverige!!Everyone should cuffawkle more.The wrench is your friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorian Drake Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 Apparently Paizo wasn't the only one to get a license yanked. Dragonlance is gone too. maybe Obsidian could catch that license? atleast the PC one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfted1 Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 I for one would love to see a Dragonlance game made. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelfiredragon Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 while i think it suxs. it costs money to print them. and i bet they never recycled the left overs Strength through Mercy Head Torturor of the Cult of the Anti-gnome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darque Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 This sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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